amir khan match on saturday

kieran75

does anyone know of a bar in dublin city centre that will be showing the amir khan match on saturday...

thanks...

Johner

Who's he playing?

imstrongerthanu

lol

kieran75

Dmitriy Salita - its on sky but you have to pay for the flight so im not sure if any pubs will pay for it.

walshb

I doubt any boozers will pay to get this in.

I may get it in, but not in a boozer:)

Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing Khan, but more to seeing
Kevin Mitchell stepping up to LW to meet Khan's conqueror, Bredis Prescott.

Fair play to Mitchell. Gutsy and brave fight to take, considering that
he is smaller and moving up. I really think that no matter what Khan
does on Saturday, should Mitchell pull off a win, it will upstage Amir.
Mitchell will not go back to 130 lbs after this either way.

Also, I wonder what Khan will be feeling knowing that the man who
destroyed him will be in the same arena. Will it make him edgy and a bit nervous?

duagre

Prescott has been completely exposed in my opinion.

Never looked anything special before the Khan fight, and was poor in both his fights since. I'm expecting Mitchell to win this.

walshb

duagre wrote: »

Prescott has been completely exposed in my opinion.

Never looked anything special before the Khan fight, and was poor in both his fights since. I'm expecting Mitchell to win this.

I am rooting for Mitchell, but he still will be facing a heavy handed and dangerous fighter who is a big LW. This is in no way a gimme. Both fighters are dead even in the odds!

TheBlackThing

I'm going to be showing this in my pub in Claremorris if any of you are from around this area.

I know the programme starts at 8 but do any of you know what time the fight is expected to start?

foams

It's supposed to start at Eleven.

Rob113

walshb wrote: »

I doubt any boozers will pay to get this in.

I may get it in, but not in a boozer:)

Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing Khan, but more to seeing
Kevin Mitchell stepping up to LW to meet Khan's conqueror, Bredis Prescott.

Fair play to Mitchell. Gutsy and brave fight to take, considering that
he is smaller and moving up. I really think that no matter what Khan
does on Saturday, should Mitchell pull off a win, it will upstage Amir.
Mitchell will not go back to 130 lbs after this either way.

Also, I wonder what Khan will be feeling knowing that the man who
destroyed him will be in the same arena. Will it make him edgy and a bit nervous?

I was thinking the exact same thing myself. What if they meet in the corridor as khan is on his way to the ring. Just seeing Prescott would send a shudder through him. I think its poor form on the promoters.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Will the Macklin fight be over in time for Khans fight? I want to see it but I want to see Macklins more, and I hate watching repeats and paying €22 would be stupid.

eagle eye

I cannot for the life of me understand how anybody would be interested in watching let alone paying a fee to watch the fake that is Amir Khan in another joke fight.
It just beggars belief.

Saltour Sossiez

eagle eye wrote: »

I cannot for the life of me understand how anybody would be interested in watching let alone paying a fee to watch the fake that is Amir Khan in another joke fight.
It just beggars belief.

Agreed.

A lot of people seem to get drawn in by the sky sports hype.
Mitchell-Prescott will probably be an entertaining fight, but still it doesn't make this card worth paying for.

shamblertine

so is Salita no good then? has he no chance of beating Kahn?

imstrongerthanu

In terms of marketing;he's the most marketable fighter the UK have right now;he's young,good looking and is well known to the public since winning silver at the 2004 Olympic Games.
Like a lot of fighters; he has his strengths and weaknesses;which is very self evident to boxing enthusiasts by looking at his pro career.Just looking at a fighter that have been chosen to play to these strengths;we have Andriy Kotelnik;good solid chin, average boxing skills, and well below average power.Khan was always going to out-box this guy.

Eagle Eye; could you point out why you feel Dmitriy Salita is a "joke" of a fighter?

Big Ears

shamblertine wrote: »

so is Salita no good then? has he no chance of beating Kahn?

His chances of victory are minuscule, he's not a very big puncher(infact he's the opposite), his own chin has quite a few question marks and his defence has been found wanting against much worse fighters.

He also fights in a similar style to the way Khan does now and there's no way he can do it better. I think he'll be stopped somewhere between round 1-6, with the stoppage likely coming in the later of those rounds.

The quality in this card comes from:
Kevin Mitchell v Breidis Prescott
John Simpson v Steven Bell
Alex Arthur v Nigel Wright
+ some very tasty prospects against very over-matched opposition(Fankie Gavin, Stephen Smith, Tony Bellew, Bill Joe Saunders, James DeGale, Ronnie Heffron).

Enzo Maccarinelli is also fighting tonight for anyone vaguely interested.
But the main event seriously lets this card down, nothing that can be done though,Salita is a mandatory(for some stupid reason).

consultech

How delicious would it be if Salita got a freak knockout on Khan though!!!

Big Ears

consultech wrote: »

How delicious would it be if Salita got a freak knockout on Khan though!!!

Not very, Salita would be very very protected as a title holder and it would mean Khan 's chances of fighting Maidana would go from slim to none.

consultech

Big Ears wrote: »

Not very, Salita would be very very protected as a title holder and it would mean Khan 's chances of fighting Maidana would go from slim to none.

I don't agree. Khan/Maidana are what, 22 and 25/26 respectively? Long long time left to make that fight.

I just think it'd be nice to see the British media machine punctured again with another Khan loss. If he's really the second coming as he's being portrayed, then he'd be able to bounce back again.

nacho libre

Against Hatton?

i too would like to see him beaten but it's not going to happen tonight.

JonathanAnon

Big Ears wrote: »

The quality in this card comes from:
Kevin Mitchell v Breidis Prescott

Must be a bit odd for Breidis Prescott to be on the same card with Khan, considering Khan is WBA World Light welterweight champion and he has no title. He completely cleaned Khan out. I watch a lot of boxing and thought Prescott gave him some of the hardest punches I've seen at that weight.

imstrongerthanu

Big Ears wrote: »

Not very, Salita would be very very protected as a title holder and it would mean Khan 's chances of fighting Maidana would go from slim to none.

I don't think khan will be fighting Maidana at all; are you mad?

gerryslurry

where online can i watch this live

imstrongerthanu

Anyone else think Mitchell will win this by round 6?

SantryRed

Could someone PM me a link please? Thanks.

ooPabsoo

SantryRed wrote: »

Could someone PM me a link please? Thanks.

chek out the links thread,good few in there

ctrl-alt-delete

Well i dont care who that guy was or wasnt, how good he was or wasnt,

that was relentless boxing from Khan, his speed and accuracy were unreal.

peanuthead

gerryslurry wrote: »

where online can i watch this live

probably no point in that lol

~Marky~

That was unreal he had him down in the first 10 seconds :eek:

Kristopherus

No punch from Solito. How much did he get for that non-event?:D:D:D

walshb

The guy was a mandatory, Khan took it and blazed thru him.
Aged only 22, you cannot ask for more than that.

One thing you always get with Amir, excitement. He's pure
excitement. Fantastic and skillful fighter, and he is getting
better. His speed is just out of this world.

Mitchell did very well in a closer fight than what the judges had it.

Mitchell wouldn't be up to Khan. It's all about styles, and Khan's speed and size
would be very tough for Mitchell

eagle eye

walshb wrote: »

The guy was a mandatory, Khan took it and blazed thru him.
Aged only 22, you cannot ask for more than that.

One thing you always get with Amir, excitement. He's pure
excitement. Fantastic and skillful fighter, and he is getting
better. His speed is just out of this world.

Mitchell did very well in a closer fight than what the judges had it.

Mitchell wouldn't be up to Khan. It's all about styles, and Khan's speed and size
would be very tough for Mitchell

Any guy with a half decent punch has a chance against Khan, he doesn't have a jaw.
I agree that Khan has buckets of talent but its no use to him because he will never step in the ring with a top class power puncher, his management team will make sure of that. If he does he loses.

The fact that Salita got to be a mandatory just shows how ridiculous pro boxing has become.

walshb

eagle eye wrote: »

Any guy with a half decent punch has a chance against Khan, he doesn't have a jaw.
I agree that Khan has buckets of talent but its no use to him because he will never step in the ring with a top class power puncher, his management team will make sure of that. If he does he loses.

The fact that Salita got to be a mandatory just shows how ridiculous pro boxing has become.

He does indeed have buckets of talent and the risky jaw always makes for pure excitement with him. That's the thing with Khan. He is still so young. Lets afford him ONE loss before saying he's finsihed. He will HAVE to step up as time goes by.

He has serious attitude and confidence and wants to be the best. God, he is not even 23. He has bags of time to TRY to impress.

I highly doubt he will go the next year, two years, three years. four years meting men who cannot punch.

BTW, Salita was mandatory before Khan got his shot. The situation in world boxing
has ZERO to do with Khan. He met the mandatory, that is all he can be asked to do.

Plenty of time for young Khan, but I am always always impressed
with the guys skill. His chin, well, time will tell if he can
change that. Very unlikely, but will sure be exciting finding out

nacho libre

you can't train a person's chin to absorb punches. either they can take a punch or they can't. sure his speed will help him in a lot of situations but when he meets a guy who has a decent chin, along with good boxing skills and can bang, he's going to lose again. it is a pity because his speed and power make him exciting to watch. if he had a decent chin he'd be pretty much unbeatable until father time caught up with him.

section4

nacho libre wrote: »

you can't train a person's chin to absorb punches. either they can take a punch or they can't. sure his speed will help him in a lot of situations but when he meets a guy who has a decent chin, along with good boxing skills and can bang, he's going to lose again. it is a pity because his speed and power make him exciting to watch. if he had a decent chin he'd be pretty much unbeatable until father time caught up with him.

I dont think he has that much power, I wouldnt even rate khan in the top ten in the world, this was a classic frank warren con job he been doing it since the eighties,

eagle eye

walshb wrote: »

He does indeed have buckets of talent and the risky jaw always makes for pure excitement with him. That's the thing with Khan. He is still so young. Lets afford him ONE loss before saying he's finsihed. He will HAVE to step up as time goes by.

He already lost to Prescott. And he should have two at this stage in fairness, remember all the time he got before the count started in the fight against Willie Limond. I'll treat his chances the very same way you treated Bernard Dunnes. He can't take a big punch so he has no hope. All he has ever fought are washed up fighters with no power and bums. Apart that is from Prescott and he is no great shakes either as has been shown since they met.
And before you go rattling on about Dunne, I did agree with you for the most part on his career.
Its quite simple really if, and thats a big if, he ever fights a real fighter he will be on the floor and counted out. There is no question about it.

c1979

Great perfromance by Khan. Salita has never been stopped before this.

I am sure Warren is thinking who else has no punch in the division, lets see Malignagi or Bradley. I bet you it will be one of those next or some absolute nohoper

foams

Great performance from Khan , stunning finish and he did exactly what he said he'd do. Dmitriy Salita was the wba mandatory challenger and was no tomato can.

Big Ears

foams wrote: »

Great performance from Khan , stunning finish and he did exactly what he said he'd do. Dmitriy Salita was the wba mandatory challenger and was no tomato can.

Well your right about the first bit. I wouldn't call Salita a tomato can(because I wouldn't call any fighter that) but he's not very good and is strictly a domestic level fighter. He's beaten no one of note(unless the corpse of Rocky Martinez counts), and never should of been mandatory contender.

Now that's not Amir Khan's fault, Khan went out and did exactly what a fighter should do to an over-matched opponent, he blew him away in sensational fashion.

However I'm not going to think OMG :eek:!!!, wow Khan just knocked out a top contender in under 80 seconds. Salita was only a top contender according to the WBA, in truth he isn't and in truth our own Paul McCloskey would of done a serious number on him so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Marcus Maidana holds the WBA interim title, and rather stupidly he defended his title 2 weeks ago. Why Maidana couldn't have been Khan's mandatory, only the crazed sanctioning fee addicts at the WBA could only tell you.


Maidana and Khan should be forced to meet each other soon, Khan's team have previously made comments about going in another direction if that were to happen so we'll see if they've become braver in the mean time. It's a 50/50 fight and will end by knockout one way or the other so it'd be exciting however there is a major chance Khan will drop the WBA belt if they try to force the fight.

I'd like to see Khan with a nice tough voluntary if he doesn't have to fight Maidana next, someone like Kendall Holt would be great but it's more likely we'll see Brunet Zamora in the opposite corner.

walshb

eagle eye wrote: »

He already lost to Prescott. And he should have two at this stage in fairness, remember all the time he got before the count started in the fight against Willie Limond. I'll treat his chances the very same way you treated Bernard Dunnes. He can't take a big punch so he has no hope. All he has ever fought are washed up fighters with no power and bums. Apart that is from Prescott and he is no great shakes either as has been shown since they met.
And before you go rattling on about Dunne, I did agree with you for the most part on his career.
Its quite simple really if, and thats a big if, he ever fights a real fighter he will be on the floor and counted out. There is no question about it.

Eh, you are the one bringing Dunne into this discussion. Dunne is 29, almost 30.
So, don't start saying I will go rattling about Dunne. It's you who brought him up.

Khan does have time on his side, as well as the bucket load of talent that YOU speak of.

Look, Cassius Clay was pretty much KOd aged 21 vs. Cooper. He was out on his feet. He came back, matured and went on.
And, before anyone jumps in saying I am comparing Khan to Clay, I am not; I am comparing an analogy of
chins at stages in careers.

Anyway, he is still so young. You keep HARPING on about how he will never meet quality. He will, he has to step up. He cannot go thru the next few years without meeting RATED fighters. He is the WBA champ. His next fights will be against top ten fighters.

As to the point about chins, nacho: Yes, if your punch resistance is poor, then it's very hard to mend, BUT, you can help yourself. I am not saying you can cure it, but age and weight and maturity can help a bit.

Now, to Mitchell. I really like the guy. He is such a clever and reourceful fighter. He took all he had to
and figured out Prescott. BTW, Prescott ****ing bangs. Even them shots that were missing and
hitting arms were serious power shots

JonathanAnon

Never been impressed by Khan before, but was very impressed with that lightning left-right combination that knocked the guy down first. It's worth watching on the tube again. I wouldnt like to have paid for it though, I think it worked out about 25c a second. :-(

Big Ears

Ali was floored by one monstrous shot from the hard punching Cooper.

Khan was floored(and should have been counted out need I remind you) Heavily against Willie Limond who is an absolute non puncher. He was also floored by a shot Michael Gomez and left doubled up from body shots in that fight indicating his chin is not his only vulnerability.

I haven't see Prescott v Mitchell yet(I'll watch it soon) but I haven't been impressed by Prescott's power in his fights other than Khan. He's not a pillow puncher, but he doesn't seem to quite have the dynamite in his fists some believe. Even when I watch the Khan v Prescott fight it's the reaction to Prescott's punches not the punches themself that are so dramatic.

Khan does not have to fight a top 10 opponent next, he has to fight a top 15 opponent, and that's top 15 as chosen by the WBA.
So that includes not only their crap current rankings:
Interim champion: Marcos Maidana
1. Dimitri Salita
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Diaz
4. Victor Cayo
5. Andreas Kotelnik
6. Kendall Holt
7. Mike Alvarado
8. Victor Ortiz
9. Richard Hatton
10. Sirimongkol Singwangcha
11.Yodsanan Nanthachai
12. Brunet Zamora
13. Yosukezan Onodera
14. Alberto Mosquera
15. Mark Jason Melligen

The WBA are very slow to publish their rankings and for good reason. They'll often allow a poor fighter to fight for the title(if it suits the promoter) and then they can back date him onto the ratings later, making it seem if said crap fighter was there all along. For instance their current rankings only go up to July.
This is how fight like Celestino Caballero v Elvis Mejia came about and the same will apply to Khan. Up until when he faces a mandatory(so someone like Salita) Frank Warren can have him fight whoever he wants.

Even playing within the rules there's guys like Brunet Zamora there !

spongeman

eagle eye wrote: »

He already lost to Prescott. And he should have two at this stage in fairness, remember all the time he got before the count started in the fight against Willie Limond. I'll treat his chances the very same way you treated Bernard Dunnes. He can't take a big punch so he has no hope. All he has ever fought are washed up fighters with no power and bums. Apart that is from Prescott and he is no great shakes either as has been shown since they met.
And before you go rattling on about Dunne, I did agree with you for the most part on his career.
Its quite simple really if, and thats a big if, he ever fights a real fighter he will be on the floor and counted out. There is no question about it.

I agree with you all the way.

All this is a charade, but its not fooling me. Beat Barrera ? He would have not been fit to lace up a prime Barrera's laces. Just like Joe fighting a washed up Jones. Means totally nothing.

Who did he win the title off ? I can't even remember. All he has is down to Freddie Roach, not him. Without Freddie he would be nowt. Roach is pushing him down the easy road, cos he knows Khan's limitations.

joepenguin

Roach is pushing him down the right road imo, not the easy one. Wont he be looking for a name opponent for his American debut?
Oh and to summarise: Prescott = Kiko.

The WBA can put whoever they want in their rankings but as it is there are guys like this: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=323278&cat=boxer in it. Ranked 105th by boxrec.

IMO he is one of the best in the division, no doubt, but he needs a fight or two to look good in the states now. Preferably against a name fighter.
Fighting Mitchell would be daft, first of all he is coming from super featherweight and this is always a danger for Kahn:eek: ... :P but he just moved to 135 so for himself it wouldnt make sense to jump up again. He is mandatory now for the wbo so he'll want to sit on that till the oppurtunity arises. They are both promoted by Warren so he would make more money from having them both as world champs.

nacho libre

section4 wrote: »

I dont think he has that much power, I wouldnt even rate khan in the top ten in the world, this was a classic frank warren con job he been doing it since the eighties,

well, perhaps it's the sheer speed and volume of his punches that make it seem as if he has a lot power. you are probably right in that he doesn't have one punch knock out power like Pacquiao does.

abvout warren: it's funny that he is quick to criticise fighters not under his management for being shielded. He was at it again last week in his newspaper column.

walshb

joepenguin wrote: »

IMO he is one of the best in the division, no doubt, but he needs a fight or two to look good in the states now. Preferably against a name fighter.
Fighting Mitchell would be daft, first of all he is coming from super featherweight and this is always a danger for Kahn:eek: ... :P but he just moved to 135 so for himself it wouldnt make sense to jump up again. He is mandatory now for the wbo so he'll want to sit on that till the oppurtunity arises. They are both promoted by Warren so he would make more money from having them both as world champs.

As much as I like Mitchell, I feel 135 would be a wise weight to STAY at.
What worked vs. Prescott will not work against the much better boxer and much faster Khan.

BTW, no one is expecting Khan at 22, almost 23 to straight away jump in with Pacman or some other top 140 lb fighters, but he will be tested by the best, maybe not his next fight or two, but it will be stepped up every time, it has to be.

As for Khan's power: It's not Hearns like, but he can bang and get respect. He is
far from feather fisted, and the speed of delivery is superb

Also, one can only assume that as the months and years pass, Khan will improve. Nobody can honestly tell me that Khan is close to peak. He is not, amd IF the chin holds out and maturity and tactics help him, by god, he will be very dificult to beat

section4

nacho libre wrote: »

well, perhaps it's the sheer speed and volume of his punches that make it seem as if he has a lot power. you are probably right in that he doesn't have one punch knock out power like Pacquiao does.

abvout warren: it's funny that he is quick to criticise fighters not under his management for being shielded. He was at it again last week in his newspaper column.[/QUOTE

It looked like he had a lot of power in that fight because he fought somebody who was no threat no punch and a bad chin, what quality fighter has khan knocked out in the first round, anybody can look good beating overmatched fighters. he fought kotenlick who is another soft puncher and what did he do, boxed and moved, why if he had all that power people seem to think he has now why was he scared to engager a light puncher like kotenlick.
Khan is an X-factor fighter, in other words if you have the money behind you can have hits, if you have the money to manipulate the rating you \can fight bums and kid on your a world champ, Khan I would not even rate in the top ten, he has not beat a genuine world class fighter. Its classic warren tactics.

If khan had not established a name or brand there is no way he would have had the money spent on him, ie:going to america, get a fight with a washed up barrera on tv and getting a hand picked bad champ to fight to win the title.
Khan will struggle big time the first time he meets a fighter who will hit him back, he was even getting flustered against willie limond, I dont think he is good under pressure, he is all right if he can punch you and you dont hit him back.

joepenguin

walshb wrote: »

As much as I like Mitchell, I feel 135 would be a wise weight to STAY at.
What worked vs. Prescott will not work against the much better boxer and much faster Khan.

BTW, no one is expecting Khan at 22, almost 23 to straight away jump in with Pacman or some other top 140 lb fighters, but he will be tested by the best, maybe not his next fight or two, but it will be stepped up every time, it has to be.

As for Khan's power: It's not Hearns like, but he can bang and get respect. He is
far from feather fisted, and the speed of delivery is superb

Also, one can only assume that as the months and years pass, Khan will improve. Nobody can honestly tell me that Khan is close to peak. He is not, amd IF the chin holds out and maturity and tactics help him, by god, he will be very dificult to beat

Exactly, I feel his style will have to accomodate his chin, which will in effect take away from his power, well it still be there but he cant take one to get one if u get what i mean. Im sure he'll make the mistake at some stage but not with much consequence.

He isnt at peak and thats frightening!!! If you gave him a solid chin tommorrow there isnt anyone in the division better than him. Pac is gone from 140 and Hatton couldnt depend on the one "humdinger"

Roach knows how to beat Marquez and Hatton as he's coached pac against him. IMO it would be warrens job to pick the right time just like Hatton-Tszyu. Due to his lack of experience and chin either fight would be a risky call and i dont think either fighter is too far shot that he wouldnt get credit. Marquez wasnt even the biggest lightweight so its an option im sure.
I'm looking forward to his next fights. I'm sure there will be soft touches and past peak fighters throughout but so far his opponents have been spot on imo. Even Prescott in an indirect way!!

section4

joepenguin wrote: »

Exactly, I feel his style will have to accomodate his chin, which will in effect take away from his power, well it still be there but he cant take one to get one if u get what i mean. Im sure he'll make the mistake at some stage but not with much consequence.

He isnt at peak and thats frightening!!! If you gave him a solid chin tommorrow there isnt anyone in the division better than him. Pac is gone from 140 and Hatton couldnt depend on the one "humdinger"

I think warren has got you guys well fooled, thats how he gets them eejits to buy the PPV

There isnt anyone in the division better than him?

he hasnt fought a decent world class fighter yet, this guy was knocked clean out by a guy who couldnt knock a super featherweight out in mitchell.

BDF

Sky have no shame, hyping up this joke of a fight and hyping Salita who would be beaten quite handily by any decent British level light welterweight. Can anyone explain how this kid got rated high enough to be the WBA mandatory challenger? :rolleyes:

nacho libre

section4 wrote: »

nacho libre wrote: »

well, perhaps it's the sheer speed and volume of his punches that make it seem as if he has a lot power. you are probably right in that he doesn't have one punch knock out power like Pacquiao does.

abvout warren: it's funny that he is quick to criticise fighters not under his management for being shielded. He was at it again last week in his newspaper column.[/QUOTE

It looked like he had a lot of power in that fight because he fought somebody who was no threat no punch and a bad chin, what quality fighter has khan knocked out in the first round, anybody can look good beating overmatched fighters. he fought kotenlick who is another soft puncher and what did he do, boxed and moved, why if he had all that power people seem to think he has now why was he scared to engager a light puncher like kotenlick.
Khan is an X-factor fighter, in other words if you have the money behind you can have hits, if you have the money to manipulate the rating you \can fight bums and kid on your a world champ, Khan I would not even rate in the top ten, he has not beat a genuine world class fighter. Its classic warren tactics.

If khan had not established a name or brand there is no way he would have had the money spent on him, ie:going to america, get a fight with a washed up barrera on tv and getting a hand picked bad champ to fight to win the title.
Khan will struggle big time the first time he meets a fighter who will hit him back, he was even getting flustered against willie limond, I dont think he is good under pressure, he is all right if he can punch you and you dont hit him back.

i didn't actually see the Khan fight last night- i was more interested in watching the Macklin fight. You don't have to convince me that Khan's chin is terrible. He proved it against light-hitters like Limond and Gomez.
So I'm in agreement that he will be floored again once he meets someone with a decent chin, who is capable of landing on him and has decent power.
As Gomez said he is a world-class talent, with a world-class vulnerability(well it was something like that). Age and maturity will not improve his punch resistance.