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funnyname

Inquiry begins as house bought for Travellers destroyed in fire

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0704/1224250044633.html

Cookie_Monster

AH may not be the best place to ask such a question

minidazzler

Basically, people from Tipp are fcuking Nutters and if you do something they don't want, they won't care about harming you.

Biggins

minidazzler wrote: »

Basically, people from Tipp are fcuking Nutters and if you do something they don't want, they won't care about harming you.

:eek: :pac:

Someone in the county Tipperary section might be able to tell you.

AnonoBoy

Breaking development:

People are scumbags.

In other news:

A thread in After Hours is shortly to descend into chaos and bigotry before being locked

ejmaztec

Biggins wrote: »

:eek: :pac:

Someone in the county Tipperary section might be able to tell you.

It would take a lot of time to get to that forum, it being a long way and all.

DonJose

Think thats bad, check out the following story in todays Indo :mad:

Outcry over council's €3m bill to house six Traveller families

A LOCAL authority has been criticised after it spent almost €3m to house just six families.

Clare County Council shelled out €500,000 on each house it built for six Traveller families.

In response to a Freedom of Information (FoI) request, the council confirmed that the cost of constructing six Traveller homes at Knockanean, adjacent to the Ennis bypass, was almost €3m.

The figures show that the cost of the scheme is €2.8m, with the cost of housing each family at €477,000.

Cost

But this has angered a member of the council's Traveller accommodation advisory committee -- who says the cost is too high for individual units.

In the FoI response, Clare County Council gave a breakdown of their costs.

The site was bought for €1.2m, while the build contract for the six homes was €1.5m, with technical fees/salaries for the project costing €190,488.

The recently appointed chair of the council's Traveller accommodation advisory committee, Brian Meaney said: "The costs are extremely high, given the number of units."

However, he said that with the council aiming to integrate more Travellers into the community, the use of Traveller-specific homes will become less common in the future.

"The Traveller-specific built accommodation is used as a stopgap and the cost of Traveller accommodation will not be as high in the future," he said.

However, one of the new residents and father of five children aged from seven years to four months, Patrick Mongans, said yesterday: "This is absolute luxury and paradise for us."

Mr Mongans confirmed that the rent on the property was €45 per week, which included the cost of refuse collection.

Prior to moving in to the new four-bedroom home, Mr Mongans said that he and his family were living in a caravan in the council's emergency halting site on the Quin Road in Ennis.

There, the family had to use an outdoor bathroom and Mr Mongans openly admits that the situation "was very hard".

Mr Mongans and his family also spent four months in the council's homeless unit after being asked to leave their rented accommodation when the landlady told the family that she was selling the home.

He said: "We heard after that she wasn't selling at all, but what can you do?"

Asked to comment on the council's spend on the homes, Mr Mongans said: "In fairness to them, they didn't spare any expense when they built it."

The council is spending €6m housing 18 Traveller families in Ennis and Ennistymon.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/outcry-over-councils-83643m-bill-to-house-six-traveller-families-1958626.html

Gurgle

DonJose wrote: »

"The Traveller-specific built accommodation is used as a stopgap and the cost of Traveller accommodation will not be as high in the future," he said.

What is traveller-specific accomodation, and why does it cost twice as much to build as normal houses?

Rabies

minidazzler wrote: »

Basically, people from Tipp are fcuking Nutters and if you do something they don't want, they won't care about harming you.

We're all not that bad

Biggins

ejmaztec wrote: »

It would take a lot of time to get to that forum, it being a long way and all.

LOL Very good. :pac:

minidazzler

Rabies wrote: »

We're all not that bad

Oh, I know that!! I meant it in the Same vein as Women from tipp are durty out and take it in the back passage on the first day.

I know not ALL do. But such high proportions do that it's a fair statement!

Kradock

Gurgle wrote: »

What is traveller-specific accomodation, and why does it cost twice as much to build as normal houses?

Because the houses are in fact transformers which have the ability to uproot from its foundations and plant itself back down in any place that causes most upset to the "settled people".

prinz

DonJose wrote: »

A LOCAL authority has been criticised after it spent almost €3m to house just six families.
Clare County Council shelled out €500,000 on each house it built for six Traveller families.

I wonder if they'd give me a house

F***ing backward country we live in.

DonJose

Gurgle wrote: »

What is traveller-specific accomodation, and why does it cost twice as much to build as normal houses?

Probably means enough land for a hi-ace, caravan, obligatory piebald and somewhere to stack old washing machines and used tyres.

minidazzler

prinz wrote: »

I wonder if they'd give me a house

F***ing backward country we live in.

Are you disadvantaged or from a minority group?

prinz

minidazzler wrote: »

Are you disadvantaged or from a minority group?

Yes. I am a hard working, law abiding tax payer. Which means I go to the back of the queue for everything in this hole.

Kradock

minidazzler wrote: »

Are you disadvantaged or from a minority group?

Would AH qualify?

Rabies

minidazzler wrote: »

Oh, I know that!! I meant it in the Same vein as Women from tipp are durty out and take it in the back passage on the first day.

I know not ALL do. But such high proportions do that it's a fair statement!

Ok.


Maybe your statement is true then.

minidazzler

prinz wrote: »

Yes. I am a hard working, law abiding tax payer. Which means I go to the back of the queue for everything in this hole.

A working class hero is something to be.

stovelid

prinz wrote: »

Yes. I am a hard working, law abiding tax payer. Which means I go to the back of the queue for everything in this hole.

There, there.

prinz

minidazzler wrote: »

A working class hero is something to be.

Not getting a €500,000 house from the state puts me at a disadvantage I would say.

minidazzler

stovelid wrote: »

There, there.

Why would you give him the USAF Medal of Honor (Yes, there are differences). They aren't particularily hard working in their F-22's.

Unless they are Jack O Neill, he is badass TBH.

Thepones

What the hell!

Only heard about this now. 500K houses for all!

I am renting at the moment and do not feel part of the community - maybe a shiny new house will do the trick. And a nice garden for BBQ's with my new friendly neighbours...

Cuddlesworth

Lesson learned here people. I'm not sure what it is but its definitely a lesson that's been learned.

Rob_l

minidazzler wrote: »

Are you disadvantaged or from a minority group?

In this country not being part of a minority group makes you disadvantaged! :cool:

stovelid

minidazzler wrote: »

Why would you give him the USAF Medal of Honor (Yes, there are differences). They aren't particularily hard working in their F-22's.

Unless they are Jack O Neill, he is badass TBH.

I have no idea what you're talking about, however, I thanked your post to conceal my confusion and prevent the exchange from progressing any further.

brianthebard

DonJose wrote: »

Think thats bad, check out the following story in todays Indo :mad:

Outcry over council's €3m bill to house six Traveller families

How is a story about the county council spending money on housing for Traveller's possibly worse than some prejudiced ****s burning down a house? Isn't it a bigger cost to have a house burnt down that hasn't even been used by anyone?

Calibos

Gurgle wrote: »

What is traveller-specific accomodation, and why does it cost twice as much to build as normal houses?

Double bricked construction with all copper pipe work and wiring run in the void inside the walls because some minorities seem to think the pipework and wiring is like curtain rails, ie. stuff you take with you when you move.

All joking aside, the story from the OP is a disgrace.

They may get lucky. Not all travellers are troublemakers or messy feckers. I know of a traveller family that are never in trouble, have a caravan on the side of the road in a little gated albeit illegal plot, and they keep it lovely. I would have no problem this particular family living beside me. The problem is that despite protestations from the likes of Pavee Point, this type of traveller is in the minority not the majority.

But you have to give them a chance and if they do turn out to be the type that turn the house and gardens into a rubbish tip or who are troublemakers, then pressure the council to evict them, but give them a chance.