Can I order a second 3 mobile broadband pay monthly

theothers108

Just a quick question guys, Is it possible to order a second dongle on billpay cause im farily going through the gigs and with my little brother getting a xbox he wants to play online aswell. We are getting a dish installed cause the reception isnt great so the speed should not be any problem.
Thanks Kev

pablomakaveli

Ya it is possible. I had two 3 pay monthly accounts. I got the first one online and the second one in a 3 shop. There was'nt any issues about having two accounts. They just treat them as two seperate accounts which are in your name.

theothers108

Thanks for info man cheers.

jor el

It will be next to useless for Xbox online gaming. Expect poor pings, repeated kicks from servers, etc. You can't connect the modem directly to an Xbox either, it has to go through either a computer or router.

3DataModem

Don't listen to the above poster re Xbox speed. He's not necessarily correct. It depends where you are located. Try it yourself.

In some areas in Dublin (eg my house) 3 broadband is fine for ps3 and xbox online gaming.

With a dish your chances improve substantially.

Although you will need a computer or router... Can't plug it straight into xbox as he correctly says.

Sponge Bob

3DataModem wrote: »

With a dish your chances improve substantially.

a DISH :eek:

But sure if every gamer gets a 3g DISH it only moves the reception problems around

theothers108

3DataModem wrote: »

Don't listen to the above poster re Xbox speed. He's not necessarily correct. It depends where you are located. Try it yourself.

In some areas in Dublin (eg my house) 3 broadband is fine for ps3 and xbox online gaming.

With a dish your chances improve substantially.

Although you will need a computer or router... Can't plug it straight into xbox as he correctly says.

Hi there thanks for your input ,i shared the internet connection from our pc to the ps3 with a long ethernet cable and works sound just slow speed . Just a quick question what does the dish do ,does it increase the 3g reception around the house and is it the dongle u use as well when dish installed?

Thanks and sorry 4 being dumb at this stuff

jor el

3DataModem wrote: »

Don't listen to the above poster re Xbox speed. He's not necessarily correct. It depends where you are located. Try it yourself.

In some areas in Dublin (eg my house) 3 broadband is fine for ps3 and xbox online gaming.

With a dish your chances improve substantially.

Although you will need a computer or router... Can't plug it straight into xbox as he correctly says.

Utter nonsense, I never mentioned speed, as speed as little if anything to do with it. Absolutely nothing can improve the ping on a 3G connection below it's technical minimum. It will never be as good as proper fixed wireless, DSL or cable. This is the biggest draw back with 3G services, and it simply is not reliable or sustainable even if you sometimes get a decent ping. As I said, expect to be kicked for ping issues on a regular basis.

A 3G antenna may or may not improve anything, especially if your signal is already bad, it may just get slightly better. Using 2 modems from the same network, in the same location, at the same time will be guaranteed to reduce performance, as both are sharing the exact same bandwidth and capacity. If you only use one at a time, things will remain as they are.

sdanseo

OP, if you can at all get landline or cable broadband for gaming. The mobile stuff just isn't reliable or fast enough yet in terms of latency especially.

Kensington

3DataModem wrote: »

With a dish your chances improve substantially.

Are you for real?!

With a satellite broadband product, you have an absolute guaranteed minimum latency of 500mS - this is just the time for the signal to leave your house, reach the satellite, reach the ISP and then make it's way back to you. Add another 100mS onto that once you factor IP into it. Then factor in signal loss due to rain, cloud cover, contention, packet loss, your round trip time (double your latency figure) etc. etc. End result = not good!

sdonn wrote:

OP, if you can at all get landline or cable broadband for gaming. The mobile stuff just isn't reliable or fast enough yet in terms of latency especially.

Yet? More like never

Syferus

jor el wrote: »

Utter nonsense, I never mentioned speed, as speed as little if anything to do with it. Absolutely nothing can improve the ping on a 3G connection below it's technical minimum. It will never be as good as proper fixed wireless, DSL or cable. This is the biggest draw back with 3G services, and it simply is not reliable or sustainable even if you sometimes get a decent ping. As I said, expect to be kicked for ping issues on a regular basis.

A 3G antenna may or may not improve anything, especially if your signal is already bad, it may just get slightly better. Using 2 modems from the same network, in the same location, at the same time will be guaranteed to reduce performance, as both are sharing the exact same bandwidth and capacity. If you only use one at a time, things will remain as they are.

Jor el is right in that using two modems of the same network at once is asking for speed issues. If you go ahead with this, a second modem from o2, Vodafone or Meteor would probably be a better bet.

In terms of online gaming - I've got a Dovado UMR 3G router and I'm able to have a more than a playable experience on my Xbox 360 and PS3. The router does increase the ping, but not to a level were online gaming isn't fun or engaging. Almost all Xbox games are peer-to-peer based (there's semantics involved here that would be pointless to get into) so most times the host of a game is the session creator rather than someone actively moderating pings, something that would be more likely on a dedicated server with hand-picked moderators like FugTF2, for example. It should also be noted that on Xbox Live at best games show you a five bar (think mobile reception) representation of your ping, so the suggestion you'll get kicked from servers regularly is a little far fetched - it's hardly discernible that you've got 120ms ping or 170ms ping and most people don't even care an iota unless the game is unplayable, which in alot of cases it is not.

I'm digressing, but in my experience I've seen people who could be best described as ping Nazis (RE: Seinfeld!), where people have been kicked (and mainly not me I hasten to add!) from games because their ping was a little over an arbitrary threshold, even though the game was perfectly fun and playable and only if you were actively looking to create a problem would you ever find one.

Of course as this is 3G, your ping is far more dependant on the connection load in your sector and distance from the mast than anything the router does - if it's particularly horrible on your PC (let's say usually over 200ms) then you will have issues, especially when piping it through a router. The best recommandation I can give to anyone else considering getting what's needed to connect a console is to try a PC game online (a shooter preferably) and see how it is; it'll give you an idea of where you sit.

The rather condescending mantra of 'it's no good' is repeated alot on this boards as regards online gaming, but it ignores the fact that people willing to use 3G services for online gaming generally have no option to use a better, more stable alternative. The fact is that if you can get DSL you'd be foolish to use a 3G modem to connect to Xbox Live or PSN.

If, however, you're like me and alot of other people and have no other option, you're damn glad you can get a usable high speed connection at all.

theothers108

Syferus wrote: »

Jor el is right in that using two modems of the same network at once is asking for speed issues. If you go ahead with this, a second modem from o2, Vodafone or Meteor would probably be a better bet.

In terms of online gaming - I've got a Dovado UMR 3G router and I'm able to have a more than a playable experience on my Xbox 360 and PS3. The router does increase the ping, but not to a level were online gaming isn't fun or engaging. Almost all Xbox games are server-client based so most times the host of a game is the session creator rather than someone actively moderating pings, something that would be more likely on a dedicated server with hand-picked moderators like FugTF2, for example. It should also be noted that on Xbox Live at best games show you a five bar (think mobile reception) representation of your ping, so the suggestion you'll get kicked from servers regularly is a little far fetched - it's hardly discernible that you've got 120ms ping or 170ms ping and most people don't even care an iota unless the game is unplayable, which in alot of cases it is not.

I'm digressing, but in my experience I've seen people who could be best described as ping Nazis (RE: Seinfeld!), where people have been kicked (and mainly not me I hasten to add!) from games because their ping was a little over an arbitrary threshold, even though the game was perfectly fun and playable and only if you were actively looking to create a problem would you ever find one.

Of course as this is 3G, your ping is far more dependant on the connection load in your sector and distance from the mast than anything the router does - if it's particularly horrible on your PC (let's say usually over 200ms) then you will have issues, especially when piping it through a router. The best recommandation I can give to anyone else considering getting what's needed to connect a console is to try a PC game online (a shooter preferably) and see how it is; it'll give you an idea of where you sit.

The rather condescending mantra 'it's no good' is repeated alot on this boards as regards online gaming, but it ignores the fact that people willing to use 3G services for online gaming generally have no option to use a better, more stable alternative. The fact is that if you can get DSL you'd be foolish to use a 3G modem to connect to Xbox Live or PSN.

If, however, you're like me and alot of other people and have no other option, you're damn glad you can get a usable high speed connection at all.

Great post thanks im afraid i have same problem like yourself . We have beem tryin to get broadband for years eircom , west net, vodafone the list goes on on , so hopefully the dish will do the job