Landlord humiliated me.what to do?

slim2009

i'm polish, i have problem with landlord(woman)one time i paid 50e less then usually for rent, because i didnt have money.obviously i told her that i give it after few days.and she told me that`"ok i wait ,but you must come to my house and clean it up as well, if not you will have problems in ireland"i was in her house few times and i clean her house,she treat me like servant,one time i ask about mop,she respond me-no,i dont have,you have to clean floor on all fours.the worst is that when i clean that floor she walked beside me and show where i must clean better.she humiliated me.i dont know what to do?i scare, that she go somewhere and tell about my no paid full rent,and i will be problems,what to do?sorry for my english.

Biggins

Clearly she is trying to make sure she can dominate you.

Stop visiting her house right now!!!
If this is the type of character she is - she might out of spite accuse you of taking something from her home while her back is turned - if you don't always do what you might be told.
Either way, your putting yourself in a way/position that is not good for you.
Slavery is against the law! This is another form of blackmail/slavery!

Have you any friends that can be around when this woman visits your place?

If you are legally here (even if not!), no matter what she threats you with - you have Irish law on your side! No ifs or buts.
You are in FULL right to use the Irish laws to your advantage also.
I would suggest that you go also to the Gardi and ask to make a statement that you are possibly being pressurised/blackmailed into doing physical work without payment. That she is issuing threats against you too.
Do this as soon as possible.

Also go to the nearest "Resource Centre" where you are. Ask there for legal advice. They are there to freely help you.
Don't know where one is? Ask at a FAS office or Gardi station.

slim2009

Biggins wrote: »

Clearly she is trying to make sure she can dominate you.

Stop visiting her house right now!!!
If this is the type of character she is - she might out of spite accuse you of taking something from her home while her back is turned - if you don't always do what you might be told.
Either way, your putting yourself in a way/position that is not good for you.
Slavery is against the law! This is another form of blackmail/slavery!

Have you any friends that can be around when this woman visits your place?

no i havent,i got few friends but they live in dublin,in area where i live i dont know nobody,

Biggins

Again, go to the nearest "Resource Centre" they will help you find others and help in a number of ways.

Connect Family Resource Centre
159 Money More Est Droghera Co. Louth
(041)9846608

Drogheda Resource Centre
7 North Quay Drogheda Co. Louth
(041)9835754

Redeemer Family Resource Centre
Ard Easmuinn Dundalk Co. Louth
(042)9386495

Resource Centre For Unemployed
30 Clanbrassil St Dundalk
(042)9338820

slim2009

Biggins wrote: »

Again, go to the nearest "Resource Centre" they will help you find others and help in a number of ways.

Connect Family Resource Centre
159 Money More Est Droghera Co. Louth
(041)9846608

Drogheda Resource Centre
7 North Quay Drogheda Co. Louth
(041)9835754

Redeemer Family Resource Centre
Ard Easmuinn Dundalk Co. Louth
(042)9386495

Resource Centre For Unemployed
30 Clanbrassil St Dundalk
(042)9338820

thank you,what i have to say them?what happend if my landlord renege everything?

Biggins

slim2009 wrote: »

thank you,what i have to say them?what happend if my landlord renege everything?

Ok. "renege" ??? You mean "deny?"

1. Go in and ask/say "I'd like to speak to someone about rent and legal advice". Tell them at the centre you are in difficulty and need help. There will be NO bill.
2. When you make a statement to the centre/Gardi, ask them to take notes (although the Gardi should do this anyway), describe in detail the landlords home. This will help prove you were there.
3. She can deny all she wants but if you can show you was there (by description of place alone and location) and that no records exist of her paying you, your far better off than she is.
She has to PROVE that she paid you - if she tries to say this!


By the way - ask at the centre about any local polish communities in the area or polish organisations/clubs/etc, even other polish people.

If you can't find one - get back to me!

slim2009

Biggins wrote: »

Ok. "renege" ??? You mean "deny?"

1. Go in and ask/say "I'd like to speak to someone about rent and legal advice". Tell them at the centre you are in difficulty and need help. There will be NO bill.
2. When you make a statement to the centre/Gardi, ask them to take notes (although the Gardi should do this anyway), describe in detail the landlords home. This will help prove you were there.
3. She can deny all she wants but if you can show you where there (by description of place alone and location) and that no records exist of her paying you, your far better off than she is.
She has to PROVE that she paid you - if she tried to say this!

ok,thank you you helpme a lot,i will do this after sunday because in weeken these offices not working i think,but tommorow i think i must go to landlords house,beacuse she told me that i have to come,untlill im not do nothing,i will go,beacuse i scare this woman,hopely everything will end as soon as possible.

Biggins

slim2009 wrote: »

ok,thank you you helpme a lot,i will do this after sunday because in weeken these offices not working i think,but tommorow i think i must go to landlords house,beacuse she told me that i have to come,untlill im not do nothing,i will go,beacuse i scare this woman,hopely everything will end as soon as possible.

Have you a camera? Take a picture of the house (from a small distance so that she won't see you) from inside/outside if possible. Just to show others where you are being told to go, etc.
Good luck and if you need any help further post back here or PM me (click on "Biggins" on the left and select "Send a private message")

You are no longer alone!

petes

Fair play Mr. Biggins.

Have to say that is shocking behavior altogether.

slim2009

Biggins wrote: »

Have you a camera? Take a picture of the house (from a small distace so that she won't see you) from inside/outside if possible. Just to show others where you are being told to go, etc.
Good luck and if you need any help further post back here or PM me (click on "Biggins" on the left and select "Send a private message")

You are no longer alone!

i will try.i dont know why this woman humiliate me when i clean her house?beacuse im polish?i dont know why she behave like this against me?

Biggins

slim2009 wrote: »

i will try.i dont know why this woman humiliate me when i clean her house?beacuse im polish?i dont know why she behave like this against me?

I'm sorry your being treated this way. It really, really angers me that people do this to others. You get back to us here or me if you wish further help.
If need be, I (or my wife) will personally go with you to the Gardi (or anywhere you wish to go) if this continues and your treated badly.

You take care.

slim2009

Biggins wrote: »

I'm sorry your being treated this way. It really, really angers me that people do this to others. You get back to us here or me if you wish further help.
If need be, I (or my wife) will personally go with you to the Gardi (or anywhere you wish to go) if this continues and your treated badly.

You take care.

one more time,thank you,i appriciate your help.

Biggins

slim2009 wrote: »

one more time,thank you,i appriciate your help.

Your very welcome.

w123

slim2009 wrote: »

i will try.i dont know why this woman humiliate me when i clean her house?beacuse im polish?i dont know why she behave like this against me?

She behaves like his because she is an ignorant scumbag.

Great advice Biggins.

Some other things though that the poster needs to know

No matter what this 'landlady' says that there is no legal way that she can evict the poster and that if she does she will be down a lot more than the late rent.

I think it could be fairly assumed that this woman is not declaring her income to the Revenue, and has not signed up to the PTRSB.

I would suggest that the poster contacts the landlady and declines her kind offer to be a slave while mentioning the words solicitor and Threshold.

This kind of behavior makes me ashamed to be Irish.

opinion guy

Tenants rights organisation:

http://www.threshold.ie/

I would contact them and ask for advice.

You should not fear this lady. She is taking advantage of you because she thinks she can get away from it. However she is breaking several laws I would imagine and actually she can get in alot of trouble. I would not go to her house again - you are leaving it open for her to accuse you of stealing from her house.

Do you have any Irish friends ? If I were you I would ask one of them to be present when you are dealing with this woman. You should have a sensible friend present as a witness - and I say Irish as she will be less likely to try scamming you if she thinks an Irish person is a witness.

_Kooli_

slim2009 wrote: »

i'm polish, i have problem with landlord(woman)one time i paid 50e less then usually for rent, because i didnt have money.obviously i told her that i give it after few days.and she told me that`"ok i wait ,but you must come to my house and clean it up as well, if not you will have problems in ireland"i was in her house few times and i clean her house,she treat me like servant,one time i ask about mop,she respond me-no,i dont have,you have to clean floor on all fours.the worst is that when i clean that floor she walked beside me and show where i must clean better.she humiliated me.i dont know what to do?i scare, that she go somewhere and tell about my no paid full rent,and i will be problems,what to do?sorry for my english.

That is disgraceful.
Record this behaviour on your phone (and please, no smart comments from people about this recording being illegal. Its not. period.). And then bring the recording to the cops, or a newspaper. See who is on all fours then.

Biggins

_Kooli_ wrote: »

...Record this behaviour on your phone (and please, no smart comments from people about this recording being illegal. Its not...

Correct.
As long as a person doing the recording, is part of the conversation/recording, its a legal recording.

w123

REAL PROBLEM WITH NEIGHBOUR(WOMAN)

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Cristian.hi i lived in ireland 3 years.my neighbour(irish woman)made the photo me when i was naked in my apartment(just left bathroom and went to livingroom).Next day she told me that she show the naked photo in my area when i live...unless...i'll come to her house and clean up floor on all fours,polish her shoes..and i had to do.I don't know what to do.I scare that she do this,please help me.


Remarkably similar... Look up post history.

Can my faith in the Irish be rekindled.

I don't mind being hoodwinked - but I don't care for this kind where you feel genuine sympathy for somebody and then this.

I'm not saying that the current problem isn't real, but I'm having second thoughts.

mikemac

slim2009, has this been going on since August 2009?
In August the landlord had a photo and in November it's over 50 euro. Which is it?

Hope you get the help you need but can you tell us the problem again?

slim2009

w123 wrote: »

REAL PROBLEM WITH NEIGHBOUR(WOMAN)

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Cristian.hi i lived in ireland 3 years.my neighbour(irish woman)made the photo me when i was naked in my apartment(just left bathroom and went to livingroom).Next day she told me that she show the naked photo in my area when i live...unless...i'll come to her house and clean up floor on all fours,polish her shoes..and i had to do.I don't know what to do.I scare that she do this,please help me.


Remarkably similar... Look up post history.

Can my faith in the Irish be rekindled.

I don't mind being hoodwinked - but I don't care for this kind where you feel genuine sympathy for somebody and then this.

I'm not saying that the current problem isn't real, but I'm having second thoughts.

i dont know what is that!i lived with many people before,maybe when i logged somewhen in past,somebody write this awful story,many times im in to this webside to get to know about broadband,and others helpful things.now im really have problem.

GreeBo

Call me crazy, but a quick "Find all posts by Slim2009" doesnt inspire me as to the authenticity of this thread...

Reported.

slim2009

mikemac wrote: »

slim2009, has this been going on since August 2009?
In August the landlord had a photo and in November it's over 50 euro. Which is it?

Hope you get the help you need but can you tell us the problem again?

my problem is with landlord,only this,i wrote few minutes ago

Biggins

w123.
Can understand where your coming from however if this case is genuine, the person involved should have no problem going to the proper sources others here can advise her to go to.
They won't be looking for financial help.
If they do, I'd be the first to report a possible con in action myself to the right people.

All the main person can do AND SHOULD DO is follow some of the advice offered.

kowloon

Fair play Commander Adama Biggins.

baaaa

Slim2009 This is totally out of line.It's your fault for missing the rent but her behaviour is unacceptable.
Can you give us some more details-
Is she a registered landlord?
Did she ask or order you to clean the floor?
What were you wearing when you cleaned the floor?
Did you wipe from right to left or from left to right?

mikemac

GreeBo wrote: »

Call me crazy, but a quick "Find all posts by Slim2009" doesnt inspire me as to the authenticity of this thread...

Reported.

Agreed, and the next genuine case that comes onto boards may well get ignored over this!

And in the unlikely event this is genuine then you have all the advice you need here slim2009

slim2009

GreeBo wrote: »

Call me crazy, but a quick "Find all posts by Slim2009" doesnt inspire me as to the authenticity of this thread...

Reported.

i wrote i dont know about others topic,i write only this,many times i logged to webside,maybe my roommates,wrote others topic i dont know,i change house 2 month ago.

slim2009

baaaa wrote: »

Slim2009 This is totally out of line.It's your fault for missing the rent but her behaviour is unacceptable.
Can you give us some more details-
Is she a registered landlord?
Did she ask or order you to clean the floor?
What were you wearing when you cleaned the floor?
Did you wipe from right to left or from left to right?

i answer you tommorow beacuse i have to go to work,see you,thank you for help

Biggins

slim2009 wrote: »

i wrote i dont know about others topic,i write only this,many times i logged to webside,maybe my roommates,wrote others topic i dont know,i change house 2 month ago.

Well, do as mentioned above.
We can only offer advice and sources of other help on this forum for the moment.
After that, you will have to as the saying goes "take the bull by the horns yourself". In other words, seek proper help from the proper legal sources.

We are willing to point you in the right direction.
Again, good luck.

w123

Biggins wrote: »

w123.
Can understand where your coming from however if this case is genuine, the person involved should have no problem going to the proper sources others here can advise her to go to.
They won't be looking for financial help.
If they do, I'd be the first to report a possible con in action myself to the right people.

All the main person can do AND SHOULD DO is follow some of the advice offered.

mikemac wrote: »

Agreed, and the next genuine case that comes onto boards may well get ignored over this!

And in the unlikely event this is genuine then you have all the advice you need here slim2009

I hear you Biggens, but I hear mikemac too...
It was the post about the domination and the eerily similar wording of the two other posts that got the alarm bells ringing.

Having said that - This could well be a genuine problem, in order to facilitate the op I will happily call the mean landlady to tell her off.

Slim2009 PM me your number - we can talk - and I'll get your landlady off your back.

Biggins

Aye, all we can do at the end of the day, is try to point the genuine cases in the right direction for help.
Anything more after that is to taken and/or treated with caution.

Bigdeadlydave

This is taking advantage of good honest people, I mean we have biggins here offering to give up his free time etc to help this person and its just a troll?

event

Biggins wrote: »

Correct.
As long as a person doing the recording, is part of the conversation/recording, its a legal recording.

i do think you have to inform the person you are recording it though

Biggins

event wrote: »

i do think you have to inform the person you are recording it though

Only when and if its to be used as court evidence so that they can fairly form a legal rebuttal to address the issues surrounding it.

slim2009

baaaa wrote: »

Slim2009 This is totally out of line.It's your fault for missing the rent but her behaviour is unacceptable.
Can you give us some more details-
Is she a registered landlord?
Did she ask or order you to clean the floor?
What were you wearing when you cleaned the floor?
Did you wipe from right to left or from left to right?

i dont know does she is registered,cos i dont know how and where check,she order me clean house,i was normal clothes when i clean the house

slim2009

thank you everybody for help,im still scare this woman,hopely i will go last time clean her house today,and next week when i'll go to office which me wrote biggins everything will be finish.one more time thanks

focusfan

Biggins wrote: »

- you have Irish law on your side! No ifs or buts.

how ironic another poster has a link to the church abuse report

slim2009

focusfan wrote: »

how ironic another poster has a link to the church abuse report

what you mean?

Whiskey Devil

This is ridiculous. You're not even funny. Just wasting peoples time.

slim2009

Whiskey Devil wrote: »

This is ridiculous. You're not even funny. Just wasting peoples time.

i have really hard problem and you write that this is ridiculous?many people help me with advise,and you write about wasting time?if you will be on my place you will write different opportunity,i think you are irish,im curious what you'll do if this case happend you in(for example)poland?

Whiskey Devil

Well your previous posts would suggest that you're either extremely paranoid or taking the piss. All of your posts are typed in exactly the same manner, so no it wasn't somebody else logged onto your account.

To be honest I'd find it hard to believe that a Polish person would allow themselves to be pushed around by any Irish person or be bullied into cleaning their floors.

baaaa

slim2009 wrote: »

i have really hard problem and you write that this is ridiculous?many people help me with advise,and you write about wasting time?if you will be on my place you will write different opportunity,i think you are irish,im curious what you'll do if this case happend you in(for example)poland?

This is certainly a big hard problem.I don't know what I would do if this happened me in poland,how dirty are the floors?

slim2009

Whiskey Devil wrote: »

Well your previous posts would suggest that you're either extremely paranoid or taking the piss. All of your posts are typed in exactly the same manner, so no it wasn't somebody else logged onto your account.

To be honest I'd find it hard to believe that a Polish person would allow themselves to be pushed around by any Irish person or be bullied into cleaning their floors.

is possible that somebody could write others topic cos im many time logged my account and forget log out,sometimes i lived with 4 or 5 person in house,now im leaving alone,fortunetly....i understand you that this is hard to believe,but this person threat me that i'll be problem cos im not paid ful rent on time,i dont know what is the irish law,i dont know where she can go,this is the reason that i agree go to her and clean,but hopely it will finish next week

slim2009

baaaa wrote: »

This is certainly a big hard problem.I don't know what I would do if this happened me in poland,how dirty are the floors?

i think you laugh at me,your question are searious?floor is like floor.if you dont clean regulary,then is dirty

SDTimeout

Why don't you tell us where her house is, I know im doing nothing today.

baaaa

slim2009 wrote: »

i think you laugh at me,your question are searious?floor is like floor.if you dont clean regulary,then is dirty

Serious question,very dirty floor is big job.What do you wear for this problem?

slim2009

SDTimeout wrote: »

Why don't you tell us where her house is, I know im doing nothing today.

first-soon i go to work,second-after weekend i'll go to office what write me biggins,and i'll see how they can help me,maybe thats woman stop order me to clean her house...and obviously i'd like to change apartment if this case will not end

slim2009

baaaa wrote: »

Serious question,very dirty floor is big job.What do you wear for this problem?

what do you wear for this problem?what you mean?

SDTimeout

Now i'm starting to get doubts, If this was me i wouldn't go back. Second i've just point blank offered to go to the house with you. Would walk on the other side of the street, watch you go in and get a picture of the house.

slim2009

SDTimeout wrote: »

Now i'm starting to get doubts, If this was me i wouldn't go back. Second i've just point blank offered to go to the house with you. Would walk on the other side of the street, watch you go in and get a picture of the house.

you would't go bach cos you're irish,im polish i dont know what she can do?thank you for help,if will nothing working next week,i agree with your offer and if you can come with me an get the picture.but maybe you can write me what she can do if i not paid full rent on time,what threat me?

scudzilla

I'm partial to the odd wind up myself, if this story is true then it's pretty bad, but IMO i'm 99.9% certain that the OP is extracting urine