Irish Top 10 P4P?

Dean Mitchell

Hi guys,
Just wondering who in your opinions are the top 10 p4p fighters in Ireland at the moment?

Thanks in advance!!

Sid_Justice

On current form I'd have to go with Neil Seery who fights around 61.5 at top spot.

mark.leonard

Greg Loughran
Owen Roddy
Tim Murphy
Clive Staunton
Alan Hannon
Martin Begley

are the first names that jump to mind.

Martin Walker

mark.leonard wrote: »

Greg Loughran
Owen Roddy
Tim Murphy
Clive Staunton
Alan Hannon
Martin Begley

are the first names that jump to mind.

On top if this id put Kev McAlonon and Seery.
I hope you realise this is a potential can of worms you opened up here!!:D

Menace2Society

Colin McKee has to be in there too, unbeaten in 5/6 fights and in the finals of 8 man tourny in USA.

Raze_them_all

Stormin Norman?? What's he on an 8-10 fight win streak?

Dean Mitchell

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Stormin Norman?? What's he on an 8-10 fight win streak?

Whos stormin norman??

Martin Walker

Dean Mitchell wrote: »

Whos stormin norman??

Norman Parke from EFR. Talented guy.

Menace2Society

Martin Walker wrote: »

Norman Parke from EFR. Talented guy.

He's def one to watch out for!

Jason Mc

I suppose Greg Loughran almost dropping Eddie Alvares who is ranked 3rd in the world in his weight division sort of seperates him for me

Roper

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Stormin Norman?? What's he on an 8-10 fight win streak?

Yeah he's beaten me so that has to put him in the top 1.

I'd agree with Mark's list but add Neil Seery and Steve McCombe.

xX Batman Xx

Is everyone forgetting Tom Egan ?

pablohoney87

Pretty sure in the p4p list you have to put ais the bash at the top.

cowzerp

Greg Loughran
Neil Seery
Steve McCombe
Aishling Daly
Owen Roddy
Tim Murphy
Martin Begley
Clive Staunton
Alan Hannon



Thats my list and not in any particular order.

mark.leonard

xX Batman Xx wrote: »

Is everyone forgetting Tom Egan ?

I think the problem with Tom is he hasn't fought many of the top ranked guys in his weight in this country. He did well in his UFC debut, no doubt, he just needs to fight folks that people know and win to get ranked IMO at any rate.

Raze_them_all

mark.leonard wrote: »

I think the problem with Tom is he hasn't fought many of the top ranked guys in his weight in this country. He did well in his UFC debut, no doubt, he just needs to fight folks that people know and win to get ranked IMO at any rate.

+1

Wasn't he supposed to fight Emmet Mcnally just before his ufc fight but pulled? Would of been a good fight to see.

O'Leprosy

Dean Mitchell wrote: »

Hi guys,
Just wondering who in your opinions are the top 10 p4p fighters in Ireland at the moment?

Thanks in advance!!

Surprised no one mentioned Ash the Bash ?

Killme00

cowzerp wrote: »

Greg Loughran
Neil Seery
Steve McCombe
Aishling Daly
Owen Roddy
Tim Murphy
Martin Begley
Clive Staunton
Alan Hannon



Thats my list and not in any particular order.

O'Leprosy wrote: »

Surprised no one mentioned Ash the Bash ?

Paul did.

mark.leonard

For me ranking Ash is a tough one, men's MMA != women's MMA obviously, yet she is a stand out talent no doubt. pound for pound a man would be a great deal stronger than a girl, but the notion of pound for pound is to ignore size.....see why this is tricky?

cowzerp

mark.leonard wrote: »

For me ranking Ash is a tough one, men's MMA != women's MMA obviously, yet she is a stand out talent no doubt. pound for pound a man would be a great deal stronger than a girl, but the notion of pound for pound is to ignore size.....see why this is tricky?

you need to compare like for like, aish should be compared to other women and she is the best in europe at present.

Raze_them_all

cowzerp wrote: »

you need to compare like for like, aish should be compared to other women and she is the best in europe at present.

A fight with Rosie sexton would be good!

Ash is a great fighter, but fcukin hell her fights can be ages apart, what was the break between her last two? 12 months? more?

mmaireland.com

Raze_them_all wrote: »

...her fights can be ages apart...

That could well be viewed as a smart thing mate. Most pros fight three or four times per year (look back over the records of anyone on the world stage and you'll find an average of 4 fights per year).

You need that time to a) recover from the training regime and/or effects of a fight and b) improve and develop technically.

May well be an argument to suggest that people are jumping into the ring too soon and/or too often to be smart and develop a career.

Ais has played her record very smartly (in terms of rest time and match ups that lead to wins). So, +1 in JK's book for doing the smart thing and +1 in Ais's book for being willing to allow her coach to lead her down the path.

Raze_them_all

mmaireland.com wrote: »

That could well be viewed as a smart thing mate. Most pros fight three or four times per year (look back over the records of anyone on the world stage and you'll find an average of 4 fights per year).

You need that time to a) recover from the training regime and/or effects of a fight and b) improve and develop technically.

May well be an argument to suggest that people are jumping into the ring too soon and/or too often to be smart and develop a career.

Ais has played her record very smartly (in terms of rest time and match ups that lead to wins). So, +1 in JK's book for doing the smart thing and +1 in Ais's book for being willing to allow her coach to lead her down the path.

Oh no I agree about not fighting too much in a year(now) but ash has said it her said that she is trying to get fights more often there is just no oppontents for her.

I'd say Ash would much rather fight 3-4 times in a year compared to once every 12-15 months

cowzerp

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Ash is a great fighter, but fcukin hell her fights can be ages apart, what was the break between her last two? 12 months? more?

This was not by choice, she could not get a fight-thats why they where happy to fight on the rumble in rush, she got a fight and could not miss out on it so just went for it.

Raze_them_all

cowzerp wrote: »

This was not by choice, she could not get a fight-thats why they where happy to fight on the rumble in rush, she got a fight and could not miss out on it so just went for it.

Oh I realise this, I think the point I was trying to make is that to be one of the top p4p fighters lists off peoples heads you would have to compete 3-4 times a year. It's unnfortunate for ash that she's become a victem of her own success in a way. We all know how good she is, but so do her future opponents which can be hard for her to get opponents.

mark.leonard

Raze_them_all wrote: »

A fight with Rosie sexton would be good!

Ash is a great fighter, but fcukin hell her fights can be ages apart, what was the break between her last two? 12 months? more?

That has more to do with being able to find viable opponents than anything else I would think.

colinlaird000

"Pound for pound" is an abstract concept anyway. :P Obiovusly smaller guys are better pound for pound, simply due to them being smaller and having less pounds! This doesnt really mean they are technically better as a rule. They just have a different game. Surely a fairer method of analysis would be simply who would be better in an absolute catagory?

cowzerp

colinlaird000 wrote: »

Surely a fairer method of analysis would be simply who would be better in an absolute catagory?

That makes no sense.

If a 61kg lad is more dominant at the top of his league than the 93kg lad then he is LB 4 LB better, its nothing to do with actual weight or strenght.

Jason Mc

what about who has the best record?


And don't say Bono

cowzerp

Jason Mc wrote: »

what about who has the best record?


And don't say Bono

thats important but who is on the record is too, also was the wins from ages ago or the losses. if a lad is 10-3 but lost his last 3 then that needs to be less than another 10-3 lad who lost his 1st 3

Roper

This is easy to figure out lads.

Take the top 4 fighters, and divide their weight by the number of fights they had. Now multiply the amount of losses by the person who defeated them in that fight's wins. This is the first value P. Take P and divide it into the amount of active fighters in their weight division, being sure to include the constant C and adjust for that accordingly. Now give a value for whether each fight was in a ring or a cage (let's call it R or c. That's a small c for cage rather than the large C for the constant).

You should be left with an 8 digit number. Write it down on a piece of paper folded into a special shape (you all know the one I mean), and give someone the name of your first girlfriend. They should spell that name while moving the paper in a manner to match each syllable (all this requires a practical demonstration). Next, give your favourite colour, then lucky number. Stop at the stage, unfold the paper and lo, you have a number drawn from the original 8 digit number. Now close your eyes, make a wish and the next fighter you see is the best pound for pound fighter in Ireland.

pablohoney87

Roper wrote: »

This is easy to figure out lads.

Take the top 4 fighters, and divide their weight by the number of fights they had. Now multiply the amount of losses by the person who defeated them in that fight's wins. This is the first value P. Take P and divide it into the amount of active fighters in their weight division, being sure to include the constant C and adjust for that accordingly. Now give a value for whether each fight was in a ring or a cage (let's call it R or c. That's a small c for cage rather than the large C for the constant).

You should be left with an 8 digit number. Write it down on a piece of paper folded into a special shape (you all know the one I mean), and give someone the name of your first girlfriend. They should spell that name while moving the paper in a manner to match each syllable (all this requires a practical demonstration). Next, give your favourite colour, then lucky number. Stop at the stage, unfold the paper and lo, you have a number drawn from the original 8 digit number. Now close your eyes, make a wish and the next fighter you see is the best pound for pound fighter in Ireland.

Here comes the science.:D

colinlaird000

aaaah but what about the special magic number I'm remembering!

RearNakedJim

Roper wrote: »

This is easy to figure out lads.

Take the top 4 fighters, and divide their weight by the number of fights they had. Now multiply the amount of losses by the person who defeated them in that fight's wins. This is the first value P. Take P and divide it into the amount of active fighters in their weight division, being sure to include the constant C and adjust for that accordingly. Now give a value for whether each fight was in a ring or a cage (let's call it R or c. That's a small c for cage rather than the large C for the constant).

You should be left with an 8 digit number. Write it down on a piece of paper folded into a special shape (you all know the one I mean), and give someone the name of your first girlfriend. They should spell that name while moving the paper in a manner to match each syllable (all this requires a practical demonstration). Next, give your favourite colour, then lucky number. Stop at the stage, unfold the paper and lo, you have a number drawn from the original 8 digit number. Now close your eyes, make a wish and the next fighter you see is the best pound for pound fighter in Ireland.

God damn it, each time i make my wish i can't get the image of barry smiling at me out of my head. I wouldn't mind but i wished for roller blades.

keane2097

Roper wrote: »

This is easy to figure out lads.

Take the top 4 fighters, and divide their weight by the number of fights they had. Now multiply the amount of losses by the person who defeated them in that fight's wins. This is the first value P. Take P and divide it into the amount of active fighters in their weight division, being sure to include the constant C and adjust for that accordingly. Now give a value for whether each fight was in a ring or a cage (let's call it R or c. That's a small c for cage rather than the large C for the constant).

You should be left with an 8 digit number. Write it down on a piece of paper folded into a special shape (you all know the one I mean), and give someone the name of your first girlfriend. They should spell that name while moving the paper in a manner to match each syllable (all this requires a practical demonstration). Next, give your favourite colour, then lucky number. Stop at the stage, unfold the paper and lo, you have a number drawn from the original 8 digit number. Now close your eyes, make a wish and the next fighter you see is the best pound for pound fighter in Ireland.

I know how this one goes...

Best Pound for Pound Fighter in Ireland = There are no grey elephants in Denmark...

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