Banned from Broadband!

rash0001

Hi,

Just got a PM that I am banned from broadband for ruining threads!? The thread in question is this http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055749731

Ok so I made a mistake in posting a daily mail article but two mods said can we get rid of this so I edited the post as everyone was going on about "DAILY MAIL". The mods themselves said can we get rid of this!

If I made a wrong decision in thinking that there is some substance in the daily mail article whats the big issue? Is the broadband forum a forum to discuss and ask questions or a forum to know your answers before you post? A mod said a router doesn't store anything and a poster said it does so the mod replies finally I get banned for posting that thread and editing it so that no one else comments on it till it is locked.

I edited it long after the two mods told me to get rid of it. They could have locked it as well. So what is my fault?

I actually have the original text as well here:

Just came across this link. It's quite old. Anyone have any idea if it is true? Vodafone are using the same network etc and are even shipping out Huawei products they know nothing about so can there be a security risk? I mean risks like storing private user data etc?

China could shut down Britain with a cyber attack using BT's new £10billion network, ministers have been warned.

Parts of the system installed by a telecoms firm linked to China's army could be used to halt supplies of power, water and food, the intelligence services say.

The components can also be manipulated to disrupt transport and financial systems, and to spy on anyone who uses the network, including MI5, MI6, government departments and the military.

A confidential document sent to Whitehall by the intelligence services warns that while BT has taken steps to reduce the risk of attacks by hackers or organised crime, 'the mitigating measures are not effective against deliberate attack by China'.

News of the danger came as it emerged that a cyber spy network based in China had hacked into computers in 103 countries, including the private office of the Dalai Lama, to steal classified documents from government and private organisations.

Alex Allan, chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, is understood to have briefed the ministerial committee on national security about the threat in January.

The meeting, led by Home Secretary-Jacqui Smith, heard that ministers had 'not paid sufficient attention to the threat in the past', despite repeated warnings from the intelligence services and the security arm of the Government's listening centre GCHQ.

BT signed a multi-million pound deal in April 2005 to get key parts of its new communications network from telecoms firm Huawei, which was allegedly founded with significant Chinese state funding.

The firm's head is Ren Zhengfei, a former director of the telecoms research arm of China's three-million-strong army.

Huawei provides parts in BT's telephone exchange that receive signals, and identify whether they are telephone or data-related and then send them on to customers.

The committee heard that BT's Huawei components might already contain malicious elements gathering intelligence, which could be activated in a cyber attack that would have a 'significant impact on critical services' that depend on computers.

This could disrupt power and water supplies, food distribution, transport, the financial system, phones and TVs, the meeting was told.

The intelligence services report says that while the risk of China exploiting this capability is 'low', because of current friendly relations, 'the impact would be very high'.

John Tindle, telecommunications engineering professor at Sunderland University, said software or hardware could sit hidden in a network.

'If an unauthorised person were able to gain control of the equipment, its mode of operation could be changed,' he added. 'The ability to move traffic across the network could be switched off.'

However, ministers are concerned that replacing the Chinese components with British parts would go against their policy on competition and would be too expensive.

The number of cyberwarfare attacks from China has grown significantly in the past few years.

A report by Cambridge University said a spying operation based in the Communist state had broken into computers in 103 countries.

It found more than 1,295 compromised computers from the ministries of foreign affairs of Iran, Bangladesh, Latvia, Indonesia, Philippines, Brunei, Barbados and Bhutan.

Reseachers also discovered hacked systems in the embassies of India, South Korea, Indonesia, Romania, Cyprus, Malta, Thailand, Taiwan, Portugal, Germany and Pakistan.

The Chinese reportedly targeted Whitehall in 2007. In the same year, MI5 chief Jonathan Evans warned 300 British businesses that the Chinese were hacking into their systems and stealing information.

Last week a U.S. intelligence report identified Huawei as a key part of the cyberthreat from China, reporting that it retained 'close ties' with the People's Liberation Army. A merger of Huawei with U.S. firm 3Com, which provides computer security for the Pentagon, was blocked last year on the grounds of national security.

Yesterday a Huawei spokesman dismissed links to the Chinese military. BT refused to comment.

jor el

rash0001 wrote: »

The mods themselves said can we get rid of this!

No we didn't.

rash0001 wrote: »

I edited it long after the two mods told me to get rid of it. They could have locked it as well. So what is my fault?

You were never told to get rid of it, and you edited the first post before the 2nd mod even posted on the thread. So stop with the lying.

This is the thread in question, if any admin wants to view it.

You were the one who said, several times, to delete the thread if we wanted, which we didn't. You then spoiled the thread by removing the original post, so there was no context to it. You didn't get the answer you wanted, you were proven wrong, and you threw a hissy fit. We can do without that kind of idiocy.

rash0001

You posted at 01:11.

MunsterCycling at 01:18 - Can we not rid ourselves of this farce?

I edited at 1:31! I copied MunsterCycling and did it!

If you think you are fair good on you! You never waited a single second to bash me up left right and center. Why don't you make a rule not to post anything from daily mail!?

We vodafone customers using the huawei modem have been having problems with it for ages and I came across the link which searching for articles on the huawei!

Why did you not lock the thread if it wasn't right? I hardly posted in broadband but now had to cos of the Huawei crap! I'm a user for years but hardly post. Just needed help and so posted and instead of helping me out and telling me to re-edit, delete or whatever you go and ban me!

Thanks for being so lenient to me. I wish everyone in authority can be as lenient as the mods here. I'm sure the world will be a better place.

Thanks for the 2 weeks ban. This thread too can be locked.

Thanks and god bless.

Cabaal

Right didn't get time to answer this earlier,

Anyway,
rash0001, MunsterCycling is not a mod of the Broadband forum as such no mod suggested you remove your starting post.

If you had a problem or concern with jer el then you could have reported the post and myself or a cmod/mod could have looked into it, however you didn't do this and instead ruined the whole thread by removing your starting post.

I understand you might have felt you looked foolish after ranting off about a scaremonger story by the daily mail but removing your post and as such taking the whole thread out of context was not the way to go imho.

As a suggested resolution to your help desk complaint I'll revoke the ban but change it to a infraction (this will still allow you access) but the thread will remain locked. Sound fair enough?

jor el

rash0001 wrote: »

You posted at 01:11.

MunsterCycling at 01:18 - Can we not rid ourselves of this farce?

I edited at 1:31! I copied MunsterCycling and did it!

This is what you're claiming is multiple mods telling you to delete the post?

rash0001 wrote: »

You never waited a single second to bash me up left right and center.

I questioned your posts, which were mostly innacurate. I never said anything about you. If you have proof otherwise, post it.