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Going to make a airosft riot shield

  • 24-11-2009 8:42pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭


    i was think of making a riot shield out of plexiglass
    i was thinking if i get a bendable sheet of plastic thats a good thickness,then making the shield ark a bit, then put a sheet of metal or tough plastic across the middle of it and screw it in so it keeps the ark shape
    anyone know a good way of making this or where to buy plexiglass
    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭StevieGriff


    Sorry for the slightly off topic question but do you plan to use the shield as an actually shield in game or just for show?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Damo 2k9


    The warehouse have something like this, i was using it the other night :P
    Cant really remember what its made out of but ill check next time im there or else someone on here will tell ya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Flecktarn


    On of the lads from A.T.F. makes them, for a small fee as well. Try contacting them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭joekickass345


    yes i will be using this in a airsoft match
    and ATA?
    are any of them on boards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,752 ✭✭✭DeBurca


    Perpex/Plexiglass is on sale at B&Q in at least 2 different thickness


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    someone has been playing to much mw2 :rolleyes: seen a few and help make one when i used to live in the uk, you could go with the simple plywood version great for a budget and durable to more complicated clear perspex versions i've seen, pvc can be rather brittle thought

    just remember this is somthing you will not be able to just use at normal days skirmish, normal used for special games and as a prop, so some research might be needed before investing to much cash into the problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    A suggestion... for use in games, riotshields can help, BUT plexi glass is somewhat akin to the force... nothing gets past it. This infuriates some players, who end up just not going out when its in use... its like a form of organised cheating.

    One site I used to play at a few years back used the riot shied concept,... Made of a plastic frame, with handles, and a replacable corigated cardboard shield.... it could be eaten away over time during games, was cheap as chips to replace, and made things fair....

    Even in the real world balistc shields wont take a whole company firing at it for 10 minutes :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭se conman


    Make sure to get a shatter proof material or it won't last long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    One site I used to play at a few years back used the riot shied concept,... Made of a plastic frame, with handles, and a replacable corigated cardboard shield.... it could be eaten away over time during games, was cheap as chips to replace, and made things fair....

    rather a nice idea and adds some good tactics as they can only take a set amount of fire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭.22 Lover


    All it takes is a good sniper and your shield man wont last a minute.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    .22 Lover wrote: »
    All it takes is a good sniper and your shield man wont last a minute.

    tbh anyone with semi good aim will bring it down, for a shild to work well ahs to be part of a team as your a slow moving target , add in a team to work together and becomes powerful but still a lot of downsides


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Firekitten wrote: »
    A suggestion... for use in games, riotshields can help, BUT plexi glass is somewhat akin to the force... nothing gets past it. This infuriates some players, who end up just not going out when its in use... its like a form of organised cheating.

    I think its a good idea, its not a tank he's taking on. Dont forget it will have disadvantages for him too, extra weight, restricted movement, one handed shooting and lower mag size as it'd have a be a pistol or machine pistol.

    It'd force flanking manoeuvres and improvisation on the field.

    If you are making it B & Q will have laminated plexiglass BUT remember real ones are formed in a curve so taking a flat piece of plexiglass and forming it wil be hard. Get the thinner thickness and be careful doing it, if you over stress the material it could snap violently and shatter.

    A way around it may be to use x 2 flat sheets with a hinge and catch meaning you wouldnt need to form it and make it easier to transport / make.
    If you wanted to get fancy you could Attach LED lighting to it for low light cqb like below....

    img_a_01.jpg



    Good luck mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Flecktarn


    yes i will be using this in a airsoft match
    and ATA?
    are any of them on boards?

    You mean ATF? Just use the search function and boards and PM one of the guys. I used them i GTAC2, excellent for a team to move up with whilst being in cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭KonFusion


    One of my mates has one, though he doesn't airsoft so I'm not sure why :confused:

    He used a thermoplastic (prob perspex) and heated up the plastic until it could be worked, then shaped it as he wanted (obviously he didn't heat the whole thing at once). Then he used a bathroom fixture similar in design to this as a handle. Worked fine though it did stain a tad in places, prob from the heating, though it was eventually so scratched you wouldn't notice.

    I'll try and get him to take a pic and send it to me, would be of much greater use to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    Hightower: not trying to say its a 'bad' idea as it stands, Just that in my experience of them being used, invariably, they piss people off... LOVELY idea for the user.... yep, can even cope with a pistol to do it... theres concerns of blind fire, hit taking, richochets, and just plain cheat calling.... In games, they end up more a pain than they are worth. The card idea I'd seen used was the best compromise by far... it made the game FAIR, while allowing the attackers to use a 'resourse' to futher thier action.... it wasnt essentially a mobile wall for them to use... but something they had to plan the use of.... get it right... brilliant, wrong? your shield man gets minced.... If anything imo it makes it better.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    you could heat up some perspex and roll it on a piece of drainpipe to get the shape.
    The handles on the real ones are very similar in resign to a pair of racing bike handlebars so you could get an old one of them as the grip. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭desertstorm


    If you don't need too drastic a curve in the shield (like the one in the photo above) you should be able to just curve it the way you originally intended without heat, screw it down to lengths of wood, all given a curve on one side, a length at the top middle and bottom like..

    it'd be a large sheet of plastic so the stress wouldn't crack it, it'd also give you a more rigid sheet, a heat formed one may need more support to hold it's shape or be a bit too flexible when you move it around..

    with regards it cracking violently if you fell on it or it got thrown or whatever, it wouldn't shatter, you'd more than likely just get one clean crack, or a few bits that aren't sharp


    on a side note, you could always just go for the swat shield look with a sheet of wood, as mentioned before cheaper, and probably more realistic for airsoft games?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    There must be pics of my one somwhere, might take some tomorrow and post em up. Its cheap and mad heavy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,440 ✭✭✭✭thermo


    Hi just my 2c but if you want it transparent then use ploycarbonite not perspex, perspex is too brittle and cracks too easily compared to the polycarbonite! Also the real ones are made of polycarbonite so it shows you how strong the material is!
    on the other hand 1/4 inch plywood with a slight curvature across it would be cheaper and easier to make. Metal banding around the edges ( to protect it and prevent splitting) and a polycarbonite veiwing window would be a nice touch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭joekickass345


    maybe i have been playing to much MWF2 lol
    naa i just had this idea for awhile since i have a few pistols and would love to piss of so many people:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭joekickass345


    and
    i have a good answer for the consept of it in use for cheating
    if more than 2 people are shooting at me at the same time i will take it as a hit
    i know it would completely piss off everyone
    i myself had a similar problem at the warehouse
    bloody bastard kept on running up and shootin my feet><


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Phractal


    I LOVE the card idea. Reminds me of my idea of using card 'trauma plates' as a once off second chance vest- if the BBs penetrate the card your gone, that being if they hit the card armor. It would add another dimension to the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Leftyflip


    Phractal wrote: »
    I LOVE the card idea. Reminds me of my idea of using card 'trauma plates' as a once off second chance vest- if the BBs penetrate the card your gone, that being if they hit the card armor. It would add another dimension to the game.
    Yeah that'd work...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,440 ✭✭✭✭thermo


    riot shields eh????? .................... digs out depliteted uranium AP bb's,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭SNAKEDOC


    well guys i also have decided to build a shield i am goin to attempt two versions. first one will be a riot shield with plexiglass i'll cut it to shape then heat a line 4 inches in from the two sides and put a bend in it that will work rather then a curve which is hard to achieve. i'll put a handle and grip on the back nd done. the next is a ballistics shield made of tiber plywood is too flimsy and won't hold its shape well under stress. i'll use strips bonded together then cut my outline cut a window and put plexiglass in it paint it black and then a team name on the front. i also found these kick ass torches with 190 lumes i'll use one on the front. will look deadly. you could make this for 20euro less the prie of the torch they are 59.99 euro. not cheap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭darkgamerdk


    did any one here actually build one in the end

    looking to make a few for my own site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭Zomg Okay


    My mate and I are working on some. :)

    Don't want to piss people off too much so we've been using cardboard for the most part... At least then they can turn us into swiss cheese with some sustained fire rather than the shield-people being invincible at the front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    ^^^

    The most sensible approach to a riot shield in-game that I've yet seen. Kudos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭swiftblade


    NakedDex wrote: »
    ^^^

    The most sensible approach to a riot shield in-game that I've yet seen. Kudos.

    I was actually thinking of making something like this. A simple frame that would allow cardboard inserts.

    TBH though i would probably never use it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    These guys have the real deal: http://www.brayairsoft.com/ Ex-MOD shields that can be sprayed to any camo effect required or left clear. There is one on display and they can order them in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭Inari


    ironclaw wrote: »
    These guys have the real deal: http://www.brayairsoft.com/ Ex-MOD shields that can be sprayed to any camo effect required or left clear. There is one on display and they can order them in.

    The problem is they are permanently BB proof, whereas real shields are not perma-bulletproof, which gives them a seriously unfair advantage. The cardboard approach, on the other hand, means you can shoot through it eventually, adding a LOT more realism to the game. It also gives a sense of urgency to concentrate firepower to remove the shield from play, and also means M203's have a purpose...did I really just say that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    Sits can use permanently bb proof shields, but say... for set pieces. Ie, you can use this, but you have to discard it when you reach the building you're assaulting... ie, cant take it inside too. Its an aproach and entry tool, let them use it as such. Have them marshal monitored and controled.

    example... man with pistol and shield, one with aeg, must aproach building while team hold, plant charge, blow door... then team can hit it.

    if they are hit, the team have to recover the shield to use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Inari wrote: »
    The problem is they are permanently BB proof, whereas real shields are not perma-bulletproof, which gives them a seriously unfair advantage. The cardboard approach, on the other hand, means you can shoot through it eventually, adding a LOT more realism to the game. It also gives a sense of urgency to concentrate firepower to remove the shield from play, and also means M203's have a purpose...did I really just say that?

    Very good point but you'll constantly be making new shields. You could buy a real one (For realistic weight and size) and make templates for the front from a easily degrading material e.g. light cardboard. Best of both worlds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭Arkslippy


    It's a workable idea.


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