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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    mike65 wrote: »

    Ah sure You Waterford people are WAY ahead of me!;):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    They would be of no real loss to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Mason Grant


    A ill-thought out move by ITV in my opinion and a big blow to the future of Freesat if it goes ahead.
    Freesat without ITV2, 3 & 4 will look very bare.
    I think ITV will lose out badly, both in viewers and advertising revenue, if they become a subscription-only service on the Sky platform where there are just so many channels they will get lost in the noise.
    Time will tell, of course, but I for one will not be following them to Sky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 gcdwebmaster


    Was Watching Star Wards on ITV HD (Freesat) on saturday and the voices seemed out of sync with the video so much so I went back to ITV 1(UTV)

    the idea of them going PPV is ridiculous


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Trevord


    This has been talked about for a while. Hard to see how this would/will solve ITV's problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭John mac


    Was Watching Star Wards on ITV HD (Freesat) on saturday and the voices seemed out of sync with the video so much so I went back to ITV 1(UTV)

    the idea of them going PPV is ridiculous


    I watched a bit of it on skyHD box and couldn't see any lip sync problems.

    I wouldn't pay for it either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,934 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    itv hd is pure muck

    the SD broadcast is actually head of the hd broadcast

    the soccer is useless on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭vsat


    ITV chairman looks at pay model
    23 Nov 09 -

    ITV's new chairman, Archie Norman, is evaluating moving some of the free-to-air broadcaster's services to pay-TV, according to weekend press reports in the UK. One option would be to switch the ITV family of digital channels, ITV2, ITV3 and ITV4, to pay, the reports said.

    The move to take entire channels to pay would be at odds with the strategy being pursued by current ITV management. Carolyn Fairbairn, group director of development and strategy at ITV said last week that while it was looking at charging for preview and on-demand content, its core channels business will remain free for at least the next five years as the company can generate greater revenues from advertising and related services than subscriptions.

    Separately, ITV will benefit from better-than-expected December advertising revenues. The broadcaster had forecast a 4% year-on-year increase in ad sales for the month, but now anticipates a 12% increase after a spate of Christmas-related spending by advertisers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Michael Grade was going to 'fix' ITV as well until he was 'shafted'

    This new guy has to stamp his mark somehow,I would imagine Murdoch would give very favourable terms to bring half of Freesat back to subscription!
    As said above it has been on the cards for a long time,but it has definatly tipped towards becoming a reality.

    I always felt that ITV did not have enough programming for four channels(or is it five,Who owns men and motors?)


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭mike2084


    Would be disappointed to see this happen - enjoyed darts on ITV4 last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    A ill-thought out move by ITV in my opinion and a big blow to the future of Freesat if it goes ahead.
    Freesat without ITV2, 3 & 4 will look very bare.
    I think ITV will lose out badly, both in viewers and advertising revenue, if they become a subscription-only service on the Sky platform where there are just so many channels they will get lost in the noise.
    Time will tell, of course, but I for one will not be following them to Sky.

    I presume they still wouldn't be available to Sky Irish customers,even by subscription, as is the current situation? It will be a pity though after a five or six year period of channels becoming free to air if we were to see 3 channels going back to the world of the blue screen.:(


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    The British government should step in and block this move. They should want more competition for Sky, not less. Also they should have forced Sky to sell off it's ITV shares by now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭petronius


    Freesat should be in competition with Sky and is the BBC is of high standard, I would wish other broadcasters would come on board CNBC, RTE(blanking out locally licenced material like ITV do), TG4, Eurosport would come on board as well.

    ITV's mooted suggestion that it is going to be Pay Per View is foolish, is it a national broadcaster or just a content provider for SKYs subscription platform(or virgins or ntl or...)

    I agree the government should remove its licence to broadcast terrestrially if it is going down this route.. And skys share holding in ITV companies threaten competition...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If it happens i hope it will appear on the Irish epg as part of a pack,like BBC!

    I would only miss ITV4 for all the ITC stuff such as The Saint,The Champions,Space 1999, UFO and Randall & Hopkirk (Deceased).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,680 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    I don't think it will happen as it will be disaster for them, people only take a glance at this and not pay money extra. Sky won't give ITV much and they will end up earning less than currently. Also won't be on Irish EPG much like Fiver and the likes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭ynotdu


    Personally i do not think this is a 'bluff' THIS time.
    ITV's only obligation to people in the UK to keep their Public service remit is to provide ITV1.i have never learned the multiquote part of boards so i am responding to a few peoples posts here:)

    Most of the Channels who have returned to the Sky fold have survived whilst others who did not have closed.

    The British Govt if it was going to move should have done it much sooner.
    It is too late now for Gordon Brown as He has lost the support of the Sun rag newspaper that Murdoch also owns,The UK must have an election by May of 2010.The power of Murdoch cannot be underestimated.
    Before Tony Blair became Prime minister of UK he had 'secret' meetings with Murdoch and the Sun came out in support of Labour.the Murdoch 'empire' is bigger than any Govt around the globe.Sky digital is only a tiny part of it:( He is a 'dangerous' man in ways,what He wants he tends to get:( even the Obama administration have decided not give interviews to Fox news in the US as they have given up on EVER getting their message across to that ultra right wing channel which Murdoch also owns:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭ZOLTAN28


    Would anyone serously pay for ITV2,3 and 4?

    I can't see much demand which means less advertising revenue which makes it a pretty bad idea I reckon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    ZOLTAN28 wrote: »
    Would anyone serously pay for ITV2,3 and 4?

    Absolutely no way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    ZOLTAN28 wrote: »
    Would anyone serously pay for ITV2,3 and 4?

    I can't see much demand which means less advertising revenue which makes it a pretty bad idea I reckon.

    Would they not just come under the wing of Sky's basic package ? They're hardly premium channels are they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    greendom wrote: »
    Would they not just come under the wing of Sky's basic package ? They're hardly premium channels are they?

    Good point, only available to UK residents with at least 1 package with Sky I'd imagine too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,986 ✭✭✭squonk


    I'm a Freesat man but if I had Sky I wouldn't be paying for reruns of Mindr and The Sweeney! Great shows in themselves and always worth a watch but not really something I'd be shelling out my hard earned for. To be honest this is all I watch on the ITV's usually. I think ITV1 with its mix of Soaps and X Factor type stuff is mostly dross.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Macy


    I sometimes watch the old re-runs, but the only thing I'd really miss would be the Tour De France coverage if they go. However, whatever about the channels being missed or not, it wouldn't be good for Free To Air satellite into the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭montgolfiere


    Macy wrote: »
    I sometimes watch the old re-runs, but the only thing I'd really miss would be the Tour De France coverage if they go. However, whatever about the channels being missed or not, it wouldn't be good for Free To Air satellite into the future.

    The ITV 'Red Button' interactive service provided live coverage of 'Le Tour' last year (except when it was live on ITV4) . excellent, with NO ADS to boot!!!!
    i too think ITV would shoot themselves in the foot ( wallet)' if they made ITV 2,3&4 only available via a subscription.
    The Skyman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,934 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    is this really going ahead folks ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    The reality is Sky know the viewing figures for the family of ITV channels are huge, if that package of channels is taken from Freesat & left on Sky, encrypted in a basic package (uk only) - It will be a massive blow to Freesat that may start the end for the fledgling provider.

    Its smart business by Sky & I can see this happening for that reason, pity though for those outside the UK & those who doesn't have Sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,680 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    but it won't make people go to sky just to get these channels, I watch it lots but wouldn't pay for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    TheDriver wrote: »
    but it won't make people go to sky just to get these channels, I watch it lots but wouldn't pay for it.

    I think they will funny enough....

    Anyway thats the beauty of the opinion, everyone has 1 :)


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