US: 4x09 - "Hungry Man" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

J-blk

TV.com summary:

Dexter continues to try to understand The Trinity Killer by talking to his family; he discovers that Arthur Mitchell may not have the perfect mask after all. With Dexter out on the prowl Rita gets a little help with her busy household from her handsome next door neighbor, but his motives may not be all that honorable. Debra continues to investigate the Trinity Killer and may be getting a little too close for her own safety.

http://www.tv.com/dexter/hungry-man/episode/1308475/summary.html?tag=ep_guide;summary

I've got to admit, I was more than a little bored last week but I think the season has definitely had some pretty strong points so far - now that we're entering the final third of the season, will it be amazing or just fizzle out? We'll find out soon enough...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

sweet tapdancing ****ing jesus christ almighty

awesome

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beginning to agree with some posters here though about the predictable nature of the show

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god damnit, I really have to stop posting about episodes before the episode actually ends.

twice now in the past week i've made an arse of myself by posting 2 minutes before the credits roll.

Amtmann

An excellent episode after last weeks' dross. We were at the edge of our seats when Trinity started laying into his son and Dexter dragged him like an animal through his own house, ready to stick him like a pig. And that was a great twist at the end! I suspected from the word go that the reporter shot Lundy, but I couldn't think why. There could be a great ending to the season!

Tristram

w00t

evil_seed

"hi dad"

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Thought the writers were becoming a tad predictable and then we get that curve ball thrown at us.
Brilliant.

tvnutz

Great episode. Everything with Arthur's family was actualyl really scary,the way he had treated them,him breaking his son's finger.Then the scene where he tried to kill his son only for Dexter to drag him off and nearly kill him. Fantastic scene. I was on the edge of my seat.

It was also really good to see how Dex is different to Trinity,he was appalled and actually frightened of how Arthur treats his family.

Then that twist at the end,never saw that coming at all.

SimpleLogic

hah brilliant ending, I dont think anyone could have seen that one coming.
I knew reporter women was evil but AAAA :P

even when I seen trinity standing at the door I didnt see it coming . I was thinking why is he killing her?, this doesnt make sense .

OctavarIan

I usually find the 'curve balls' in this show to be brilliant and leave me thinking "Aw no way " but this one I'm on the fence for. Ok so the reporter shot Deb, but that's been pretty obvious for quite a while now. Trinity being her Dad? That's just too random and it doesn't really shake things up. I like that angry Trinity is out now, but every episode in this series has felt so disjointed and the writing has been terrible. A lot of plot elements have been way too forced and don't justify their inclusion, coming across as weird and jilted.

I'm interested to see how this series finishes up now, not for any reason other than to see how they justify all the bloatedness and crap writing. And coming from a guy who's been a huge Dexter fan for years it's really disappointing.

FearDark

Ah shit, I didnt watch this yet but couldnt help look at the spoilers in this thread

I look forward to this later.

SDTimeout

Sweet jesus that was a brilliant ep.

Excellent twist, Those family scenes are creepy, Hated the angel scenes again. Think either maria or angel will die this season. Plus the rita thing was predictable, hopefully with 3 episodes left they don't turn quinn or neighbour into a doakes. However i think deb may investiagte further now.

Two side things, i seen the title and i thought oh jesus they are expanding into the plot for the fifth book. SOMETHING i don't want to see. However the questions from cody, Could link into a further storyline that i'd love to see from the fourth book.

I know i'm stepping around alot but i don't want to spoil for people who have not read the later books and don't want to know

tvnutz

OctavarIan wrote: »

I usually find the 'curve balls' in this show to be brilliant and leave me thinking "Aw no way " but this one I'm on the fence for. Ok so the reporter shot Deb, but that's been pretty obvious for quite a while now. Trinity being her Dad? That's just too random and it doesn't really shake things up. I like that angry Trinity is out now, but every episode in this series has felt so disjointed and the writing has been terrible. A lot of plot elements have been way too forced and don't justify their inclusion, coming across as weird and jilted.

I'm interested to see how this series finishes up now, not for any reason other than to see how they justify all the bloatedness and crap writing. And coming from a guy who's been a huge Dexter fan for years it's really disappointing.

This is not bad writing,even the weaker episodes are not rubbish writing. Just look at some other shows on at the moment. This episode was brilliantly written,you could feel the history of what Arthur has put his family true. Last season was weak,this season has only had about 2 bad episodes. Other than that it has been very good.

I also don't understand how you can't see the ending as not shaking things up. It shakes everything up and also makes sense as to why she would shot Deb,because she is clearly emotionally damaged by what Arthur did to her,just like the 15 year old slut daughter and crazy mother. The son seemed to be the only one making any type of sense.

jayteecork

Hi dad!

weeder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkcT0CcrwLg

:eek::eek::eek:

Mossy Monk

"I should have ****ing killed you when I had the chance"

Amazing episode.

amacachi

I'm sure no-one is stupid enough to do it, but no-one discuss next week's trailer on this thread.

Liked most of the episode, sick of Angel/LaGuerta's thing though. The family scenes were brilliant. Anyone got any idea what age the actress playing the daughter is?

Mossy Monk

amacachi wrote: »

Anyone got any idea what age the actress playing the daughter is?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1404825/

17 if my sums are correct.

amacachi

Mossy Monk wrote: »

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1404825/

17 if my sums are correct.

Hmm, may wait for her to come over so. :pac:

mdwexford

Class twist at the end, loving this season.

Amazing episode for sure.

Prowetod

Great episode, it made up for last week's poor one.

Looks like we are in for tense final few episodes:)

SDTimeout

So when the son said you're a killer. Did he mean trinity or you've killed our family spirit blah blah

Stench Blossoms

I thought it was brilliant apart from the Angel/LaGuerta's storyline.

Was not expecting the ending at all.

AlmightyCushion

SDTimeout wrote: »

So when the son said you're a killer. Did he mean trinity or you've killed our family spirit blah blah

I think he means he killed the family in a non-literal sense.

Great episode. The scene where dexter loses it with trinity is brilliant. How is Dexter gonna kill trinity now though. The family will know it was him. And when dex dragged trinity into the kitchen, his wife ran for him and held him. I don't think she'd let dexter kill him.

Necronomicon

Great episode. The tension in Trinity's house was terrific in every scene. I'm happy that Dexter's pretense with Arthur is over; I'd love to see cat and mouse for the last three episodes. Though I echo everyone else about the Angel/La Guerta dross, and add that Rita kissing whatshisname opens some potentially boring doors too.

Only just caught up on the season with tonight's episode, it's been great being able to watch it at my leisure. The next three weeks will be slow!

MikeC101

Laughed out loud at Astor to Masuka: "Are you the guy my mom told me not to talk to?"

Someone should tell Dex if he's trying to appear somewhat normal, the default method for pulling someone off when they're attacking a person probably isn't taking off your belt to strangle them.

And agreed with all previous posters, the Angel / LaGuerta stuff is rubbish, and I really don't care all that much about Rita. Unless there's the possibility she'll leave Dex for the other guy, and take the kids, and move to a different state far away.

I know Dexter has always had it's fair share of "soap opera" moments, but Christ, how can the same people who write the rest of the episode be giving us the Angel / LaGuerta borefest? Is it a carefully researched marketing attempt to appeal to a certain demographic?

Still, great episode.

J-blk

Awesome, just awesome.

That ending was a pretty great twist and I'm glad the reporter chick didn't shoot Deb and Lundy just to get a story (though still, did she do it to protect dear old dad - the story she wrote about the bludgeonings seems to have pissed him off).

The scenes with Arthur's family were excellent and Dex totally losing it and exposing his true colors to the whole family in fact.

Rita... don't know, don't really care. It is out of character that she would cheat on Dex and she didn't immediately fight off the neighbor's advances so I hope that's not where they are going with it...

Angel and LaGuerta - the snorefest continues - I just don't see what the point to that storyline is? The less of it, the better.

But a great episode and hopefully we're in for a great ending to the season. Can't wait for next week .

JohnK

Loved the episode and seriously did not see the ending coming :eek:

Still though, if it turns out it was the reporter who shot Deb I'll be pissed.

Sherifu

That was brilliant. Thanksgiving with the Mitchells was compelling viewing. What a scene when Dexter dragged him into the kitchen. The whole family is fucked.

Ending was great, what a shocker. I was waiting for him to kill her and then she says her line :eek:

Rita & mr. 2 ovens... how long till he's taking an unwanted cruise?

Best line of the episode was:

"Are you the person my mother told me not to talk to?"
"Awkward"

AlmightyCushion

JohnK wrote: »

Loved the episode and seriously did not see the ending coming :eek:

Still though, if it turns out it was the reporter who shot Deb I'll be pissed.

They've all but 100% confirmed it but I'd be surprised if it turned out it wasn't the reporter after this episode/

jor el

Ha, I know it was her that shot Deb and Lundy, but I still don't see why? Was it to get a story, or does she know that Lundy was hunting Trinity, and does she know Trinity is her dad?

Deadly ending, crappy La Guerta/Angel scenes, mad stuff in Trinity's house, the son going mental and trowing the urn at the wall, the younger daughter coming on to Dex, and Rita's predictable mini-affair. Rita will come clean, she's the sort that can't keep the secret. If not her, Masuka will tell Dexter.

Not watching the preview, don't want to see anything about next week now.

Amtmann

I'm still annoyed that they killed off Lundy. How cool would it have been to have had a Lundy/Trinity/Dexter plot triangle, all the while with Lundy growing mildly suspicious of Dexter, and then, accidentally, finding out that he's Laura Moser's son (by way of Deb's file for instance) and using his great serial killer hunter instincts to realise that Dex was the Ice Truck Killer's brother. Still, very good episode as I said above...

Jack Daniels I

class episode.whoever voted that as a average episode needs their head examining like others im sick of the latino love affair and the thoughts of those two humping puts me right off my thanksgiving dinner!! can see friendly neighbour turning psycho and ending up in bin bags in the ocean..Lithgow is proving immense in his portrayl of Trinity..genuinely tense scary character
clip for next weeks show looks amazing..no more filler i predict three more explosive episodes and this season maybe an unhappy ending??

Smyth

The ending.
I came.

J-blk

Sherifu wrote: »

Best line of the episode was:

"Are you the person my mother told me not to talk to?"
"Awkward"

I thought Dex's inner voice saying to Trinity "No, you'll be buried at sea" was a pretty great line too .

Hyzepher

I think the Angel and LaGuerta storyline is shaping up for one of them to leave the show - either by death or more probably due to the fact that they are seeing each other after telling the boss that they had finished. Still boring though.

The whole Trinity/Reporter relationship is excellent and will tie in brilliantly with Deb's suspicions. How will Dexter remain anonymous now that the reporter can identify him and pass that info onto Trinity?

I suspect the son will be the one to put down the father and not Dexter - or at least help dexter to cover it up.

The Rita mini-affair may result in Dexter turning his back on family life - he may even attribute it to his own behaviour and start to believe that he is heading down the Trinity road.

All interesting stuff. Dexter should really be a 23 episode series - 12 is not nearly enough.

The Don

Great episode. The scenes with Trinity's family were eye opening to what he has been doing to them all these years. Dexter pulling him into the kitchen then was great. The mother and daughter must really fear him if they protected him like that. Dexter has left himself exposed now. Trinity will be wary of him and the family will suspect him if anything happens to trinity. A lot of people must have seen him coming and going from their house and the 4 walls builds. Maybe some even noticed his licence plate?

I'm not sure if I like the twist at the very end with the reporter being his daughter. It was really unexpected as I was waiting for him to kill her but something about it didn't sit right with me. It seemed a bit too soap opera'ie.

Debra suspects her now so that should lead her to Trinity and maybe even Dexter. Either Angel or LaGuerta are going. Whether its being fired or dying.

Good to see Harry back.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

The Don wrote: »

Good to see Harry back.

Was he gone? I thought he was in every episode this season.

JohnK

Harry hasnt been seen since Dexter killed that innocent photographer an episode or two back.

FearDark

Best line of the entire episode at the dinner table when Trinity told his wife "Shutup cunt"

Wow, just an amazing episode!!

Amtmann

Ok, just to nit-pick a little.

Why would Arthur Mitchell, the most successful serial killer in the USA, lose the rag so spectacularly in front of Kyle Butler during Thanksgiving Dinner? I mean, if his fuse is that short, surely he'd have come under the radar of the police already? Domestic abuse, noted or suspected by a concerned neighbour or someone else would surely have been reported. The breaking of Jonah's finger provides a case in point. You would not do that while someone was over. It's just too risky surely.
Also, again, if Arthur were to go missing (ie killed by Dexter), Dexter/Kyle would surely be suspected. I hope the writers don't ignore this probability in future episodes. At this point Dexter should probably back off the Mitchells and let Deb arrest him by dropping a few hints her way.

mdwexford

The Don wrote: »

Good to see Harry back.

Seriously??

Why, i think hes in it way too much, was glad to get a break from him for a while, pity it wasnt for good.

Wonder how much of Trinity's antics does the reporter know about, cant see how Dexter can get away with killing him now tbh, he'd be prime suspect if Trinity goes missing and not that hard to track down.

jayteecork

Furet wrote: »

Ok, just to nit-pick a little.

Why would Arthur Mitchell, the most successful serial killer in the USA, lose the rag so spectacularly in front of Kyle Butler during Thanksgiving Dinner? I mean, if his fuse is that short, surely he'd have come under the radar of the police already? Domestic abuse, reported by a concerned neighbour or someone else would surely have been reported. The breaking of Jonah's finger provides a case in point. You would not do that while someone was over. It's just too risky surely.

I was sort of thinking this.

This is a LEGENDARY serial killer, eluding the very best FBI agents in America( Lundy) and not leaving a single trace of evidence.

Then all of a sudden he's a complete mentalist who can't control his temper, and flies off the handle at the slightest thing.

Is this the behaviour of a methodical killer, who murdered for 30 years flawlessly.

Amtmann

jayteecork wrote: »

Is this the behaviour of a methodical killer, who murdered for 30 years flawlessly.

Surely not. However, I suppose (and without wishing to seem facetious) we may be catching him at a bad time. Firstly, he was probably rattled by Lundy. Second, his kids are at a difficult age. He may not have had to deal with this before when he was in his prime. But on the whole, it doesn't really stack up. Then again, the Ice Truck Killer's plan to sway Dex was so complex and contingent on so many imponderables that it was amazing he got as far as he did being the unstable nut that he was -- and I didn't let that prevent me from enjoying season one. I guess we have to suspend disbelief to a certain extent...

tvnutz

jayteecork wrote: »

I was sort of thinking this.

This is a LEGENDARY serial killer, eluding the very best FBI agents in America( Lundy) and not leaving a single trace of evidence.

Then all of a sudden he's a complete mentalist who can't control his temper, and flies off the handle at the slightest thing.

Is this the behaviour of a methodical killer, who murdered for 30 years flawlessly.

It's because he is losing the run of himself after so many years. This started when he realised the ashes of his sister were beginning to run out,that in his mind he would be losing her again soon.

Secondly Dexter getting involved in Arthur's life has also caused him to start to lose it. Telling Arthur he killed a man,the incident with the deer,the suicide attempt,almost being caught by Lundy.

And domestic abuse like that can go on for years and years without anyone outside the family noticing,mostly because the family are either too scared or brainwashed to say anything,like Arthur's family.

ixoy

Best thanksgiving episode of any show ever. Now that's how you do a family meal! Very intense - what worked was how quickly it boiled over after being on edge for the ten minutes before. That family is seriously screwed up.
Lithgow must surely be going to get an Emmy nod for his work here.

The rest of the story lines are so-so but I like that Masouka got his own piece here.

LaGuerta/Angel - yeah, whatever.

And then there was that ending. So the reporter shot her - okay. Now it begins to make more sense. A nice twist. Season 4 is not disappointing me at all - big step up from last year.

FearDark

I love Dexter, my favourite show now of all time Its up there with Oz... thought I'd never say that. Cant wait every week for the latest episode, they rarely dissappoint. I cant think of any low points in all 4 seasons apart from the Dexter/Layla storyline, I liked the storyline last season but some of ye dont

high horse

Furet wrote: »

An excellent episode after last weeks' dross. We were at the edge of our seats when Trinity started laying into his son and Dexter dragged him like an animal through his own house, ready to stick him like a pig. And that was a great twist at the end! I suspected from the word go that the reporter shot Lundy, but I couldn't think why. There could be a great ending to the season!

I just read back through the thread on episode 4 where you raised the possibility of the reporter being the shooter. Seemed a bit unlikely back then but now its highly possible. Nice work Furet!

bizmark

cant remember an episode this good in a very long time

Baldie

What a ****ing episode!!!!!! The scenes in trinity's house were brilliant!! I could actually feel the anger that Dexter was portraying!!

And what about that twist!!! I don't want this season to end!!

jenizzle

SDTimeout wrote: »

So when the son said you're a killer. Did he mean trinity or you've killed our family spirit blah blah

This came into my head too, what does he know?

I'll be interested in how the Mitchells are coping with this outburst, has Arthur locked them all up?

MikeC101 wrote: »

Unless there's the possibility she'll leave Dex for the other guy, and take the kids, and move to a different state far away.

We can all hope...

jayteecork wrote: »

Is this the behaviour of a methodical killer, who murdered for 30 years flawlessly.

His life is changing considerably. His sister is now gone (again), he's slowly losing the plot!

Definitely the best episode by far in a very long time! Can't wait for next week. Hope reporter chick doesn't kill Quinn, I'm actually starting to like him after a very long time thinking he was useless :rolleyes:

User45701

OctavarIan wrote: »

I usually find the 'curve balls' in this show to be brilliant and leave me thinking "Aw no way " but this one I'm on the fence for. Ok so the reporter shot Deb, but that's been pretty obvious for quite a while now. Trinity being her Dad? That's just too random and it doesn't really shake things up. I like that angry Trinity is out now, but every episode in this series has felt so disjointed and the writing has been terrible. A lot of plot elements have been way too forced and don't justify their inclusion, coming across as weird and jilted.

I'm interested to see how this series finishes up now, not for any reason other than to see how they justify all the bloatedness and crap writing. And coming from a guy who's been a huge Dexter fan for years it's really disappointing.

im enjoying this season more then 2 and 3. I found both of them meh and such a let down from season 1 but with season 4 im not expecting much - watched 8 and 9 last night and its been a while since i liked it this much.

Too much deb - i think the show would do better with her dead or transfered

SDTimeout wrote: »

Sweet jesus that was a brilliant ep.

Excellent twist, Those family scenes are creepy, Hated the angel scenes again. Think either maria or angel will die this season. Plus the rita thing was predictable, hopefully with 3 episodes left they don't turn quinn or neighbour into a doakes. However i think deb may investiagte further now.

Two side things, i seen the title and i thought oh jesus they are expanding into the plot for the fifth book. SOMETHING i don't want to see. However the questions from cody, Could link into a further storyline that i'd love to see from the fourth book.

I know i'm stepping around alot but i don't want to spoil for people who have not read the later books and don't want to know

Thank you!

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I think he means he killed the family in a non-literal sense.

Great episode. The scene where dexter loses it with trinity is brilliant. How is Dexter gonna kill trinity now though. The family will know it was him. And when dex dragged trinity into the kitchen, his wife ran for him and held him. I don't think she'd let dexter kill him.

Can dexter not kill her too? ( In-action can be considerded a crime cant it?), release the daughter into the wild and the son seems stable enough to be in the real world. oh and the reporter? em... well she will have to die as well...

Hyzepher wrote: »

I think the Angel and LaGuerta storyline is shaping up for one of them to leave the show - either by death or more probably due to the fact that they are seeing each other after telling the boss that they had finished. Still boring though.

The whole Trinity/Reporter relationship is excellent and will tie in brilliantly with Deb's suspicions. How will Dexter remain anonymous now that the reporter can identify him and pass that info onto Trinity?
.

- I actually orginally thought trinitys son could be the killer because he is not that tall

FearDark wrote: »

Best line of the entire episode at the dinner table when Trinity told his wife "Shutup cunt"

Wow, just an amazing episode!!

+ 1 - it was a good line

Furet wrote: »

Ok, just to nit-pick a little.

Why would Arthur Mitchell, the most successful serial killer in the USA, lose the rag so spectacularly in front of Kyle Butler during Thanksgiving Dinner? I mean, if his fuse is that short, surely he'd have come under the radar of the police already? Domestic abuse, noted or suspected by a concerned neighbour or someone else would surely have been reported. The breaking of Jonah's finger provides a case in point. You would not do that while someone was over. It's just too risky surely.
Also, again, if Arthur were to go missing (ie killed by Dexter), Dexter/Kyle would surely be suspected. I hope the writers don't ignore this probability in future episodes. At this point Dexter should probably back off the Mitchells and let Deb arrest him by dropping a few hints her way.

But from what we know his family serve him say/do what he says - his son didnt - from the look on trinitys face for the first time in a while and it was a direct challange to someone as acomplished as

Furet wrote: »

Surely not. However, I suppose (and without wishing to seem facetious) we may be catching him at a bad time. Firstly, he was probably rattled by Lundy. Second, his kids are at a difficult age. He may not have had to deal with this before when he was in his prime. But on the whole, it doesn't really stack up. Then again, the Ice Truck Killer's plan to sway Dex was so complex and contingent on so many imponderables that it was amazing he got as far as he did being the unstable nut that he was -- and I didn't let that prevent me from enjoying season one. I guess we have to suspend disbelief to a certain extent...

He could also be bothered that his ash's running low

Comeon

that austrian guy with your 1 in his celler and those 2 in the Us with the girl in their backyard!

for years and years and noone noticed.

Trinity keeps his family in line - they are afraid of him - you are not afriad of soemone for no reason - its not the first time he has done that and i am betting its the first time his son has challanged him at all let alone with a guest in the house