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Why did the ESB flood Cork?

  • 22-11-2009 9:35pm
    #1
    kpbdublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭


    Does anybody know why the ESB released a surge of water from the dam to flood the city of Cork with such devastating effect?
    The media have have not really explained this adequately Would the dam have burst if they had not done this - or was there a danger of a completely uncontrolled flood?
    Was the water release botched? Could they not have released it in a more controlled fashion? According to one report the water release was delayed because they were searching for a body in the river? Does anybody know about this?
    I understand that the ESB informed the public via a warning on its website. Was that the extent of the warning and was it completely inadequate?


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  • #2
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I thought there was sufficient warning. And the reason for it was the danger of the dam bursting.


  • #3
    BaconZombie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    But cork is not a city so it does not matter.
    kpbdublin wrote: »
    Does anybody know why the ESB released a surge of water from the dam to flood the city of Cork with such devastating effect?
    The media have have not really explained this adequately Would the dam have burst if they had not done this - or was there a danger of a completely uncontrolled flood?
    Was the water release botched? Could they not have released it in a more controlled fashion? According to one report the water release was delayed because they were searching for a body in the river? Does anybody know about this?
    I understand that the ESB informed the public via a warning on its website. Was that the extent of the warning and was it completely inadequate?


  • #4
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Why do you care anyway, kpbdublin? :p


  • #5
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    From what I've been hearing they opened the dam to stop it bursting, but there was a lot more water than usual because a) freakish rain over the past few days and b) a young man disappeared the week before and they'd been searching the rivers. (Not sure if that last bit is true though)

    edit: there was warning as well, a few people I was talking to on the day were talking about the fact that it was going to happen


  • #6
    kpbdublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭kpbdublin


    I am intrigued at the sort of control exercised by the ESB


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  • #7
    robbie_998
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    kpbdublin wrote: »
    I am intrigued at the sort of control exercised by the ESB

    well you wont be too fond of board gais so :pac:


  • #8
    netwhizkid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    High five the ESB! Nice work on flooding them langers!


  • #9
    Owen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    They had been searching the rivers for the missing student, and the usual routine is to let the damn build up in order to lower the water line to aid the search for missing individuals.

    However in this case, they should have thought it through more carefully. They had all the indications that there would be catastrophic weather this weekend, and rather than letting the water ebb out from the dam over the days befoore the rain began to fall, they opened the sluices and let 800 tonnes of water a second out compounding the bad weather, and adding to the mayhem.

    There's a lot of divided opinion on this subject, but I think it's fair to say that Cork would have had flooding anyway, but the ESB emptying out the dam made the flooding far more pronounced. We could have done without that extra few million litres sloshing around the city.


  • #10
    dresden8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    God flooded Cork.

    Because he hates the kip.


  • #11
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    kpbdublin wrote: »
    Why did the ESB flood Cork?

    Roy Keane and Stephen Ireland were back home at the same time.


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  • #12
    The_Minister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    because you touch yourself at night.


  • #13
    laugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    Because letting the dam burst would be very clever!


  • #14
    Bandit12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Bandit12


    New found respect for the ESB


  • #15
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    My sources tell me that the final provocation was a combination of Eddie Hobbs and PROC.


  • #16
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    because cork people deserve it


  • #17
    Seloth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭Seloth


    Yeah ESB felt that the dam would hold against the rain and didnt think twice to release it was for the searc for the unfortunate student:(.

    Here lads stop :(
    High five the ESB! Nice work on flooding them langers!
    Bit uncalled for seeing as many peoples homes were destroyed from the water damage


  • #18
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    dresden8 wrote: »
    God flooded Cork.

    Because he hates the kip.
    I believe the Phelps family/Westboro Baptist Church are working on a www.godhatescork.com site.


  • #19
    Jay P
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    Wow, the anti-Cork posts are so entertaining ¬_¬

    If flooding could have been avoided then obviously they would have avoided it. There was such a massive amount of rain, and the Inniscarra Dam has a catchment area of 350 sq. miles or something, so the resevoir would have been very full regardless.


  • #20
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    That Jennie O Sullivan bint from RTE's Cork staff makes my ears bleed. Her additional reporting is the worst part of all this.


  • #21
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Jay P wrote: »
    Wow, the anti-Cork posts are so entertaining ¬_¬
    I'm Cork born and bred (boy) - it's only a bit of fun. :)

    Seriously, there are times all right when people post stupidly anti Cork comments (and they're not being humorous) as well as anti everywhere else comments. But there's been nothing of the sort here these past few days.


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  • #22
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Was there no-one to put their finger in the dike?:confused:


  • #23
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I thought Cork was lighter than water - why didn't it float?

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • #24
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Does cork not float?


  • #25
    Jay P
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    Dudess wrote: »
    I'm Cork born and bred (boy) - it's only a bit of fun. :)

    Seriously, there are times all right when people post stupidly anti Cork comments (and they're not being humorous) as well as anti everywhere else comments. But there's been nothing of the sort here these past few days.

    I'm not trying to sound really sensitive about it, I laughed when I was walking around with my friend on friday :o I just meant they're not funny! I'm not really talking about bad taste or anything :P


  • #26
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    bnt wrote: »
    I thought Cork was lighter than water - why didn't it float?
    Bambi wrote: »
    Does cork not float?

    giggle :D

    ("shtoooory bud, Cork is shoite" posts...not so much)


  • #27
    Dartz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭Dartz


    It's either 800 tonnes a second .

    Or 800 thousand tonnes a second.

    Your call, Cork.


  • #28
    paconnors
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭paconnors


    well if the lads in cork removed the cork from the lee all the water would go down the drain, Theres ur solution


  • #29
    brendansmith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    paconnors wrote: »
    well if the lads in cork removed the cork from the lee all the water would go down the drain, Theres ur solution


    Very poor joke.


  • #30
    Mossy Monk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Aidric wrote: »
    That Jennie O Sullivan bint from RTE's Cork staff makes my ears bleed. Her additional reporting is the worst part of all this.

    Not just me then. I hate the sound of her voice.


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  • #31
    Caoimhín
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Because it is a poxy place. They should have added a few ton of soap to the water or maybe Parazone...:D


  • #32
    Zigmund
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭Zigmund


    Stan Marsh broke the dam.


  • #33
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Caoimhín wrote: »
    Because it is a poxy place. They should have added a few ton of soap to the water or maybe Parazone...:D
    No harm. There'll be no showers for a week in several parts - gonna be whiffy Leeside...


  • #34
    cornbb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    paconnors wrote: »
    well if the lads in cork removed the cork from the lee all the water would go down the drain, Theres ur solution

    http://sadtrombone.com/


  • #35
    Quint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Quint


    PaintDoctor wrote: »
    They had been searching the rivers for the missing student, and the usual routine is to let the damn build up in order to lower the water line to aid the search for missing individuals.

    However in this case, they should have thought it through more carefully. They had all the indications that there would be catastrophic weather this weekend, and rather than letting the water ebb out from the dam over the days befoore the rain began to fall, they opened the sluices and let 800 tonnes of water a second out compounding the bad weather, and adding to the mayhem.

    There's a lot of divided opinion on this subject, but I think it's fair to say that Cork would have had flooding anyway, but the ESB emptying out the dam made the flooding far more pronounced. We could have done without that extra few million litres sloshing around the city.
    Of course they would have known what the weather was going to be like. Those guys are constantly monitoring the rainfall and in communication with the met office all the time. This was obviously done in conjunction with a lot of people, the police, met, engineers and underwater unit.
    I reckon it was well thought out, and the water above the dam has to go somewhere


  • #36
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Zigmund wrote: »
    Stan Marsh broke the dam.

    I broke the dam.


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  • #37
    Jumpy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    I broke the dam.

    *sings* but I did not flood the River Lee.


  • #38
    robbie_998
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    Jumpy wrote: »
    *sings* but I did not flood the River Lee.

    The exit is over there
    >


  • #39
    The_Minister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Jumpy wrote: »
    *sings* but I did not flood the River Lee.

    I Loll'd


  • #40
    dingdong1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭dingdong1


    they were instructed to wash away the smugness. brown envelope job..


  • #41
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    dingdong1 wrote: »
    they were instructed to wash away the smugness. brown envelope job..

    You know i would'nt mind the Cork bashing if it was actually funny but some efforts on this thread are fairly poor.

    Typical post in this thread: "They wanted to wash away the langers". Followed by that person going to their window, looking out across the houses/fields of Dublin/Kerry/Carlow(the forgotten county) etc and secretly wishing they were lucky enough to have been born in Cork.

    Come on people try harder.:)


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  • #42
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    The dam burst.

    GET OVER IT.


  • #43
    RandolphEsq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭RandolphEsq


    Global warming flooded Cork!


    lol global warming


  • #44
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    orourkeda wrote: »
    The dam burst.

    GET OVER IT.

    Actually it did'nt. They let the water through it.


  • #45
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    Actually it did'nt. They let the water through it.

    GET OVER IT


  • #46
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    orourkeda wrote: »
    GET OVER IT

    No. I'm not over it yet.


  • #47
    segaBOY
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭segaBOY


    I'd rather live in a flooded Cork than a dry Dublin. And I'm not even from the county.


  • #48
    994
    Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭994


    Why is this in the Dublin forum?


  • #49
    Dartz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭Dartz


    994 wrote: »
    Why is this in the Dublin forum?

    Because the cork forum is being flooded right now...


  • #50
    Saibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    994 wrote: »
    Why is this in the Dublin forum?
    Because this isn't the Dublin Forum...


  • #51
    EnragedSteve
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭EnragedSteve


    mikom wrote: »
    Roy Keane and Stephen Ireland were back home at the same time.


    You mean Stephen England :D


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