Calving Camera

sheafield

Hi all, hust looking for some ideas and help! Small number of sucklers calving from january onwards. I live about 5 miles away from shed and looking to put in a camera system that i could access over the net. wondering does anyone use a system like this. Broadband in home place about 500 metres from shed and broadband in my own house. remember seeing something like this in journal last year, thanks for any help

vanderbadger

ya kinda, it would be easy link the house to the sheds over the 500m with wireless gear which is surprisingly cheap and easy to fit, you would need an IP camera in the shed, then a simple way to do it would be have an old pc in the old house, it would be conected to the camera over the wireless network, then from your house you could connect to the remote pc using something like logmein which is remote control software, basically it would let you look at the remote pc and thereby see the camera, its just one way, you could also just probably connect directly to the camera over the broadband without the pc in the remote house, i have a wireless connection to my sheds, i use my laptop to look at camera, then sometimes from work i connect to my home laptop and keep an eye on camera, hopes that makes sense, i can let you know what gear im using it you want

yessam

my shed is about 2km from house and the wirefree wouldnt work - something about couldnt get a good enough clear line of sight. i would love to get some way of looking at the cows witout going up and down the road constantly. is the system you described on the market or is this some connections you were able to do yourself.

vanderbadger

well thats the trouble with wireless, you need line of sight, the guys selling wireless systems would be using similar wireless gear to what im on about but would be charging you a fortune for it, the kit is very cheap nowadays with the exception of a camera, it would do 2kms without difficulty i reckon provided it has line of sight, if you had broadband at the yard and at your home you could also connect between the 2 sites and look at a camera but that would be expensive with 2 line rentals. did someone try the wireless for you previously?

yessam

A few years ago a fellow tried to get the line of sight and he said it wasnt goog enough. It wouldnt be any better now. I have broadband at the house, but dont have anything at the shed. Eircom phone wires are going to a house quiet close if I wanted to get a phone connection to the shed. Could I get a connection for just the time of year that I need it. I would'nt want be be paying a broadband connection to a shed all year around

sheafield

thanks for great reply vanderbadger. Would be great to get details of equipment you use.Sounds like solution to my problem. Any ideas where to pick up such gear, seen one company based in cork selling ip cameras you spoke about. already have a pc at home that could be hooked up to camera so might be half way there!:)

vanderbadger

yessem from any part of your house can you see any part of your yard? if you could see the tip of a hayshed or anything oyu could mount the wireless kit there and run a cable from there inside your shedsh

vanderbadger

sheafield wrote: »

thanks for great reply vanderbadger. Would be great to get details of equipment you use.Sounds like solution to my problem. Any ideas where to pick up such gear, seen one company based in cork selling ip cameras you spoke about. already have a pc at home that could be hooked up to camera so might be half way there!:)

well ebay is deffo the cheapest, I have a linksys camera, its not a great one to be honest, would be much handier to get one that could pan and tilt..the wireless gear is available from a online store called aerial.net
here are the ones I bought
http://www.aerial.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=466
the beauty of them is the antenna is built into them so you can just cable tie them onto drain pipe or similar and point them in the right direction
in my case I have wireless between house and shed and wired within shed to camera

Milton09

Does anybody know if IP cameras will work with mobile broadband. It would be a handy and cost effective solution to this problem, I have a similar problem myself with a catttle shed.

vanderbadger

hard to know with mobile broadband, its ****e mostly, i believe the 02 ver is streets ahead of the rest, you could try this, if you had an old pc set up in sheds, have the mobile broadband set up on this pc, then attach pc to IP camera using hub or whatever, then from this pc create an account with something like this
https://secure.logmein.com, its remote control software which there is a free ver of, when account is created you will be able to add pc, (the pc in the shed). then from any other computer on the internet you will be able to log into your logmein account where you will see your pcs, in other words you will be able to select the pc you added earlier, you will be prompted for login of this pc in shed and basically you will be able to control the pc and see its desktop etc, and the camera..
i havent made a great job of explaining this but if you could see it done it would make sense:)

Rujib1

vanderbadger wrote: »

hard to know with mobile broadband, its ****e mostly, i believe the 02 ver is streets ahead of the rest, you could try this, if you had an old pc set up in sheds, have the mobile broadband set up on this pc, then attach pc to IP camera using hub or whatever, then from this pc create an account with something like this
https://secure.logmein.com, its remote control software which there is a free ver of, when account is created you will be able to add pc, (the pc in the shed). then from any other computer on the internet you will be able to log into your logmein account where you will see your pcs, in other words you will be able to select the pc you added earlier, you will be prompted for login of this pc in shed and basically you will be able to control the pc and see its desktop etc, and the camera..
i havent made a great job of explaining this but if you could see it done it would make sense:)

That's an excellent summary. I am seriously tempted to give it a lash. My home sheds are 600 meters from the house but completely out of line of sight. I often wondered how to configure a set up like this. Must have a go. Would be great come calving time, not to mention the fact that I could log in from work which is 20 miles away.

Thanks.

vanderbadger

being out of line of sight might be an issue for wireless, those one i use have little signal strenght LEDS on the back of them so when you point one towards to the other you will know if you are pointing in the right direction by the signal strength, i am robbing broaband from the brothers house over the same wirless gear

dar31

vanderbadger wrote: »

ya kinda, it would be easy link the house to the sheds over the 500m with wireless gear which is surprisingly cheap and easy to fit, you would need an IP camera in the shed, then a simple way to do it would be have an old pc in the old house, it would be conected to the camera over the wireless network, then from your house you could connect to the remote pc using something like logmein which is remote control software, basically it would let you look at the remote pc and thereby see the camera, its just one way, you could also just probably connect directly to the camera over the broadband without the pc in the remote house, i have a wireless connection to my sheds, i use my laptop to look at camera, then sometimes from work i connect to my home laptop and keep an eye on camera, hopes that makes sense, i can let you know what gear im using it you want

seem to have the same kind of system, with the wireless network.
4 cameras in shed linked to dvr transmitted to house one(base) from there sent to my house, as we are on satalile?? broadband stuck receiver into brothers place, and one broadband dose all. will also be able to access pc at base that has herd software. havent been able to access outside of network as need static ip address from provider.
problems.. cameras dont give enough detail big shed 4 span
hard to see with ir cameras, have a light in but position to avoid glare.
cobwebs.(duster on a long stick)
works ok but to sleep comfortably at nite need to phyiscally see cows.
had old wired pt camera with light that can be turned on. 20 yrs old now
the lad that installed this now says he can give me radio?? wireless
with ptz camera and light, to pan the whole shed. same quality as old system used to be able to see calfs chest moving to see if he was breathing anyways man said he has put in one or two systems where he bounced siginal off neighbours/brothers house to get line of sight and worked at 3 km, recons can do 5km+

prob left out load ot vital info but anyways:o

yessam

Vanderbadger. no i cannot get a line of sight to the shed. What we were thinking of was putting up a pole on top of the shed at the time, but more houses have been built around my house since and would make it more difficult now.

Milton09

vanderbadger wrote: »

hard to know with mobile broadband, its ****e mostly, i believe the 02 ver is streets ahead of the rest, you could try this, if you had an old pc set up in sheds, have the mobile broadband set up on this pc, then attach pc to IP camera using hub or whatever, then from this pc create an account with something like this
https://secure.logmein.com, its remote control software which there is a free ver of, when account is created you will be able to add pc, (the pc in the shed). then from any other computer on the internet you will be able to log into your logmein account where you will see your pcs, in other words you will be able to select the pc you added earlier, you will be prompted for login of this pc in shed and basically you will be able to control the pc and see its desktop etc, and the camera..
i havent made a great job of explaining this but if you could see it done it would make sense:)

I would have thoght there was no need for a pc or logmein if using an IP camera , just connect camera straight to broadband connection - which could be mobile broadband??

yessam

is there anyone out there who installs these cameras to mobile broadband

vanderbadger

ya i think you could go straight to the camera without the pc but just thought that software made it handy as most people have a pc at home anyway when checking in from work, yessem i think you can take 02 mobile broadband on a trial run so you could get it and leave it with a pc up in your sheds and connect in from pc at your house , if it was too slow and you were barely able to connect to pc in sheds its probably not going to be good enough for a camera either

laurence997

Isnt all, or at least most of the mobile broadband a USB stick that you put into a computer? You would probably need one of these- http://www.commsoft.ie/shop/dovado.php -to connect the mobile broadband to as normal routers don't have a USB port, and then connect the IP Camera to that network, but it mightnt be a very cheap setup, and you will need a laptop or at least bring a pc to the shed to set it up, though you can remove it again once set up.
As vanderbadger said, you can install an old pc in the shed, but as far as i know it cant be too old ie. Broadband doesn't work with Win 95 and the camera probably wouldn't work with even Win 98, though if I am wrong please correct me.

Milton09

laurence997 wrote: »

Isnt all, or at least most of the mobile broadband a USB stick that you put into a computer? You would probably need one of these- http://www.commsoft.ie/shop/dovado.php -to connect the mobile broadband to as normal routers don't have a USB port, and then connect the IP Camera to that network, but it mightnt be a very cheap setup, and you will need a laptop or at least bring a pc to the shed to set it up, though you can remove it again once set up.
As vanderbadger said, you can install an old pc in the shed, but as far as i know it cant be too old ie. Broadband doesn't work with Win 95 and the camera probably wouldn't work with even Win 98, though if I am wrong please correct me.

That looks like a good solution Laurence, it should work and would not be too expensive, O2 were doing mobile broadband for 10 euro/month a while back with 10G download limit. I'll research this further and post my findings.

Rujib1

Could this work.
laptop or computer in shed with logmein software on board plus simple web cam plus broadband domgle. Fire up the web cam and mobile broadband.

Call up the shed set up through the logmein package. Should I not now see the input to the web cam on my home PC.

Am I missing something?

R1

vanderbadger

Rujib1 wrote: »

Could this work.
laptop or computer in shed with logmein software on board plus simple web cam plus broadband domgle. Fire up the web cam and mobile broadband.

Call up the shed set up through the logmein package. Should I not now see the input to the web cam on my home PC.

Am I missing something?

R1

ya if the mobile broadband is good enough, in my case i have ip camera in shed which is wirelessly conected to house, pc in house is on same network (192.168.1.x )as camera, i connect to home pc thru logmein, and i can bring up camera page or do anything else i want with home pc, logmein will bring up desktop of home pc as if you were sitting in front of it, obviously the fater the broadband the quicker the conection to your pc, if its a slow link trying to do anythig is annoying as there is a large delay between what you click and what oyu see on screen

baronflyguy

Hi Everyone,

I recently opened a similar thread in a more techy forum. Just in case anyone is interested in my friends requirements. I even made up a diagram

You can read all about it here.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055803350

You should only really need a Broadband connection/signal on the farm (with fixed IP address so you can view images anywhere on the internet), wireless router to broadcast a local connection and as many IP Network cameras as you want (perferably outdoor models for robustness, sealed parts should keep out condensation etc).

From my experience of using Mobile Broadband I think it is waste of money. If you want to try Mobile Broadband make sure to return it to them before trail period expires if you are unhappy with it because once the contract is activated after the trail period you will have great difficulty getting out of it. It has happened to a few people I know and they have wasted so much money paying off bills that they get no satisfaction from due to unreliable connection and this is from the comfort of their homes, I can imagine the problems you would encounter if you hook it up in a farm unmanned because you want to view images remotely.

Just wondering if any of you have any update to this thread especially if you have brought or are using IP/Network Cameras.

Regards
- BFG

hamletsmoker

Just wondering which is the best or most reasonable ip camera to buy. There are thousands of makes and prices ranging from 100 to 2000 euro.:D

vanderbadger

hamletsmoker wrote: »

Just wondering which is the best or most reasonable ip camera to buy. There are thousands of makes and prices ranging from 100 to 2000 euro.:D

http://www.logicom.ie/
someone mentioned this guy before, he might be able to help you out

hamletsmoker

Thanks Vanderbadger. I will that a try.