A word of SERIOUS caution

Biggins

I hope the mods won't object to me mentioning something here that has started happening near to me (See this thread: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055746086)

As we are coming into a period when folk might be carrying cash more so on them than maybe usual - please use extra caution and if need be go with someone (especially if elderly) to make sure they are ok.

A trend of "marking targets" as mention in the link above although not a new thing, is cropping up again.
I suspect it will not be confined just to my county.

minidazzler

What a great idea.....*grabs chalk*

seanybiker

Good job I dont have a bag or any money.

Morlar

They wouldn't be Roma by any chance ?

Biggins

Morlar wrote: »

They wouldn't be Roma by any chance ?

Pass.

minidazzler

Morlar wrote: »

They wouldn't be Roma by any chance ?

Nah, this is a much more style Irish people would go for.

Crann na Beatha

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Morlar

Biggins wrote: »

Pass.

God almighty. FFS if it IS and you mention descriptively then people would know who to be wary of. PC has it's limits. This reminds me of chief Wiggums classic line 'Suspect is Hatless - repeat the suspect is not wearing a hat!'. ie Could be more helpful.

partyatmygaff

If Biggins said Pass then obviously he means yes and is trying to be PC.

Biggins

Morlar wrote: »

God almighty. FFS if it IS and you mention descriptively then people would know who to be wary of. PC has it's limits. This reminds me of chief Wiggums classic line 'Suspect is Hatless - repeat the suspect is not wearing a hat!'. ie Could be more helpful.

partyatmygaff wrote: »

If Biggins said Pass then obviously he means yes and is trying to be PC.

Appreciate the situation. In the local case it was a particular group but I won't tar all with the same brush.
I'm sure there is many others at it or will be shortly from all categories.

Besides personal caution, I'm just asking for good folk here to look out for others also if need be.

Another case was reported to me in the last few minutes by my mother also.
Bad, just bad...

ScumLord

It sounds more like the kind of antics professional jockeys would get up too. They're all back stabbing little scumsacks each and every last one of them.

Morlar

Biggins wrote: »

Appreciate the situation. In the local case it was a particular group but I won't tar all with the same brush.
I'm sure there is many others at it or will be shortly from all categories.

Besides personal caution, I'm just asking for good folk here to look out for others also if need be.

Another case was reported to me in the last few minutes by my mother also.
Bad, just bad...

I think the fact that you bothered to post it is obviously helpful and a good thing. However nobody is talking about tarring anybody. If they happen to be Roma then you could mention '...who happpen to be Roma'. That way people would know who in particular is operating the above scam. I have zero doubt Irish scumbags would and will do the same, the run up to christmas is paydirt for these lowlifes but common sense says that if there is a particular group operating a particular scam in a given area - describing who they are would help others to know who to be especially wary of. Seems to me this would be more constructive than deciding to intentionally withold that key piece of information on the basis that you may offend someones over-tuned sensibilities. just my opinion

Pygmalion

Biggins wrote: »

Appreciate the situation. In the local case it was a particular group but I won't tar all with the same brush.

I don't see the problem, you can say "there's a bunch of Roma doing this", that's not a racist comment in any way, it's just the truth and it's not the same as "Every Roma in the world is doing this".

If you want people to be cautious of this group you'd want to give them enough information to actually be useful to them.

**Timbuk2**

What's a penny bank?

Is it like an ATM for children?

TheZohanS

Biggins

Morlar wrote: »

I think the fact that you bothered to post it is obviously helpful and a good thing. However nobody is talking about tarring anybody. If they happen to be Roma then you could mention '...who happpen to be Roma'. That way people would know who in particular is operating the above scam. I have zero doubt Irish scumbags would and will do the same, the run up to christmas is paydirt for these lowlifes but common sense says that if there is a particular group operating a particular scam in a given area - describing who they are would help others to know who to be especially wary of. Seems to me this would be more constructive than deciding to intentionally withold that key piece of information on the basis that you may offend someones over-tuned sensibilities. just my opinion

I will willingly post what category was doing it today locally in my area if a mod says its ok to do so, otherwise I don't want to be getting into forum trouble.
UPDATE: have requested permission from a mod.

Biggins

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

What's a penny bank?

Is it like an ATM for children?

A church saving scheme where you pay into it every week.
You get your savings at the end of the year - minus any accrued interest that the church keeps as a donation to them.
You only get your money at the end of the year.
Its a way of forcing yourself to save and not be tempted to withdraw it early too.

dr.bollocko

Ye Roma.










Or to be more precise it is OK to indicate the race of a particular group of people who may have been involved in criminal activity.
If it weren't then that would just be PC gone absolutely off the wall mental.

genericguy

bastards.


the citizen should go up there and chalk his own coat.

Biggins

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Ye Roma.

Or to be more precise it is OK to indicate the race of a particular group of people who may have been involved in criminal activity.
If it weren't then that would just be PC gone absolutely off the wall mental.

O' I agree.

Having conferred with a mod, I am allowed mention that it was a group of Lithuanian crooks in THIS case in MY area, this crime is being done by at present.
It was security of a bank that reported this to me. Subsequently afterwards from people contacting me, they confirmed that they were "marked" or had personal family targeted.

I still have the fullest of respect for the Lithuanian community whom the vast, vast majority would I feel, want nothing to do with these scumbags and are fellow upstanding citizens of this country.

segaBOY

This just makes me sick. No matter who's doing it robbing the elderly is the lowest of the low.

TheZohanS

Biggins wrote: »

O' I agree.

Having conferred with a mod, I am allowed mention that it was a group of Lithuanian crooks in THIS case in MY area, this crime is being done by at present.
It was security of a bank that reported this to me. Subsequently afterwards from people contacting me, they confirmed that they were "marked" or had personal family targeted.

:eek::eek:

They weren't Roma?! F......

peasant

Biggins wrote: »

A church saving scheme where you pay into it every week.
You get your savings at the end of the year - minus any accrued interest that the church keeps as a donation to them.
You only get your money at the end of the year.

All credit to handbag thieving bastards ..but I think the church has one up on them in this case.

aligator_am

partyatmygaff wrote: »

If Biggins said Pass then obviously he means yes and is trying to be PC.

This is the kind of crap that just pisses me right off, now in fairness, the perpetrators may not be Roma, but your post embodies the general PC attitude that a person can't comment on a generally accepted belief lest it make them a "racist", now please understand, this isn't me having a go at you, honestly, but the point that you raised in your post just infuriates me.

Let's be honest here, the vast majority of Roma who have come here most certainly (IMO) haven't come here in search of work, and again, to be honest, we have enough Irish arse scratching work dodgers without the addition of a far more aggressive (again, IMO) begging squad.

In fairness, I've not read the entire thread, and it's possible that I'm completely off kilter with the direction of the thread, and it's very likely that I'll get banned / infracted for saying what I honestly believe an awful lot of people are thinking.

Either way, ban or no, guys seriously, we really need to talk about this, it's something that isn't going away, and I understand that the mods are in an awkward position with this topic but you must know that it needs to be discussed???? I completely accept that it must be insanely difficult to be a mod, cos if you let something through that can be percieved as "inciting hate against a specific group" you're in the ****, but surely you can understand the average person's anger?

WindSock

I would like to dress as an old lady and stick some mousetraps in my bag then chalk myself up. I would not like to go to Louth tho.

TheZohanS

aligator_am wrote: »

This is the kind of crap that just pisses me right off, now in fairness, the perpetrators may not be Roma, but your post embodies the general PC attitude that a person can't comment on a generally accepted belief lest it make them a "racist", now please understand, this isn't me having a go at you, honestly, but the point that you raised in your post just infuriates me.

Let's be honest here, the vast majority of Roma who have come here most certainly (IMO) haven't come here in search of work, and again, to be honest, we have enough Irish arse scratching work dodgers without the addition of a far more aggressive (again, IMO) begging squad.

In fairness, I've not read the entire thread, and it's possible that I'm completely off kilter with the direction of the thread, and it's very likely that I'll get banned / infracted for saying what I honestly believe an awful lot of people are thinking.

Either way, ban or no, guys seriously, we really need to talk about this, it's something that isn't going away, and I understand that the mods are in an awkward position with this topic but you must know that it needs to be discussed???? I completely accept that it must be insanely difficult to be a mod, cos if you let something through that can be percieved as "inciting hate against a specific group" you're in the ****, but surely you can understand the average person's anger?

Read the entire thread, thanks.

WindSock

Also I understand why Biggins didn't want to identify a specific group initially, as the thread would be derailed by the usual muppets and his reason for posting it would be lost.

yoshytoshy

It's good to post these things ,a family member was robbed a few months back of a few thousand.

Elderly people need others to look out for them.

Biggins

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Elderly people need others to look out for them.

Hear, hear!

Pygmalion

If Biggins hadn't pointed out where they were from everyone would have continued to assume Roma and may have not paid that much attention to dodgy behaviour of the actual perpetrators.

Just saying that this is why there should never be a question of whether or not to identify a group.

aligator_am

OK, it looks like I leapt before I looked on this one (regarding the core of the thread, and the preceding posts, as I was too dim to read them all before posting lol, my fault, argh!!!! humble pie tastes like sweet n' sour sauce, and that is juice directly imported from Hell!!! :P )

Either way, even though my rant was partially misdirected, I still believe that I raised some valid points, now in fairness, AH is possibly not the relevant place to raise them, MODS, could you please recommend a forum to raise such points? and again, I honestly think it's important that people talk about this stuff, WITHOUT the whole decent into why one race is better than the other etc. my argument was that the majority of Roma who land here are not looking for work, but I also completely accept that there's a huge swathe of Irish who would ****e their pants if a job came knocking on their door (and I most certainly DO NOT mean the recently unemployed, I mean the long term scroungers, and I know a couple of them, makes me sick, no genuine reason to be off work, their attitiude is well sure we're getting paid, so why go looking for work? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )

I hate that ****e from the heart, no matter who does it, oh, for the want of super powers (superman style that is, lol)

dr.bollocko

aligator_am wrote: »

OK, it looks like I leapt before I looked on this one (regarding the core of the thread, and the preceding posts, as I was too dim to read them all before posting lol, my fault, argh!!!! humble pie tastes like sweet n' sour sauce, and that is juice directly imported from Hell!!! :P )

Either way, even though my rant was partially misdirected, I still believe that I raised some valid points, now in fairness, AH is possibly not the relevant place to raise them, MODS, could you please recommend a forum to raise such points? and again, I honestly think it's important that people talk about this stuff, WITHOUT the whole decent into why one race is better than the other etc. my argument was that the majority of Roma who land here are not looking for work, but I also completely accept that there's a huge swathe of Irish who would ****e their pants if a job came knocking on their door (and I most certainly DO NOT mean the recently unemployed, I mean the long term scroungers, and I know a couple of them, makes me sick, no genuine reason to be off work, their attitiude is well sure we're getting paid, so why go looking for work? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )

I hate that ****e from the heart, no matter who does it, oh, for the want of super powers (superman style that is, lol)

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1193
:pac:

citizen_p

wtf is a penny bank....you mean a bank account

mikom

Roma's currently hold the the world title for hopscotch.

Biggins

Mousey- wrote: »

wtf is a penny bank....you mean a bank account

Like post 17 when it was asked too.

A church saving scheme where you pay into it every week.
You get your savings at the end of the year - minus any accrued interest that the church keeps as a donation to them.
You only get your money at the end of the year.
Its a way of forcing yourself to save and not be tempted to withdraw it early too.

Hope that helps.

jumpguy

****ing terrible there are people like this. :mad:

InKonspikuou2

Shooting fúckers like this should not be against the law.

Demonique

aligator_am wrote: »

there's a huge swathe of Irish who would ****e their pants if a job came knocking on their door (and I most certainly DO NOT mean the recently unemployed, I mean the long term scroungers, and I know a couple of them, makes me sick, no genuine reason to be off work, their attitiude is well sure we're getting paid, so why go looking for work? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )

I hate that ****e from the heart, no matter who does it, oh, for the want of super powers (superman style that is, lol)

Why don't you report the scroungers you know to the social welfare then?

OutlawPete

InKonspikuou2 wrote: »

Shooting fúckers like this should not be against the law.

Yeah, but what if someday a teacher is on her lunch break and has a glass of water with her meal. Sits down but accidently picks up the person's drink sitting beside her. Vodka as it turns out.

Now we have a drunk algebra teacher stumbling through the street, weary, dazed and BOOM! she bumps smack into a large man with a black coat.

Naturally she assumes this man to be a blackboard and takes chalk from her pocket and begins scrawling X this, X that on him and then KABOOM!!

The poor woman gets shot in the head for what?? For nothing!