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blorg

Linky

seamus

:eek:

80cc's.

How much torque does a standard 2-stroke give out? On a 20kg bike, imagine the power/weight ratio.

I predict we'll have a couple of months with skangers and idiots flying around our roads on these things before someone "higher up" spots one and tells the Gardai to start arresting people for having no insurance.

Raam

Lumen should get one for his TT bike. I'll bet he already has.

ednwireland

the rear gear mounting looks well balanced ! beats the electric assistance and a hell of a lot cheaper :rolleyes:

Caroline_ie

I have seen these kits sold on eBay. Actually I think I remember someone posting about them last year. Will try and find it.

thebouldwhacker

Sorry now, I've had some hot things between my legs before but that takes the biscuit. Surly it would burn your legs if you touched off it. Look at the exhaust pipe blowing onto your feet, the petrol tank where your knees should be... Its a injury/death trap with little benefits. If your so bad at cycling that you need a petrol engine strapped onto the frame of your bike....walk.

mockler007

thebouldwhacker wrote: »

Sorry now, I've had some hot things between my legs before but that takes the biscuit. Surly it would burn your legs if you touched off it. Look at the exhaust pipe blowing onto your feet, the petrol tank where your knees should be... Its a injury/death trap with little benefits. If your so bad at cycling that you need a petrol engine strapped onto the frame of your bike....walk.

plus 1 plus fcuking 1

Jawgap

Would this not make the bike a "Mechanically Propelled Vahaicle" necessitating you wearing a helmet......not to mention a kevlar flame-proof suit!

blorg

Jawgap wrote: »

Would this not make the bike a "Mechanically Propelled Vahaicle" necessitating you wearing a helmet......not to mention a kevlar flame-proof suit!

Yes, you would also need tax and insurance. To be honest I doubt what you would end up with would be road legal in any case, there is a list of EU regulations as long as your arm that have to be complied with once you have a powered motorbike (they are more relaxed only for electrically powered pedal-assist bikes that require a cyclist to keep pedalling to work and cut out at 25km/h.)

humbert

It says on the thread that because it is pedal assisted it doesn't fall under the remit of mechanically propelled vehicles.


It's still a hideous contraption though.

seamus

humbert wrote: »

It says on the thread that because it is pedal assisted it doesn't fall under the remit of mechanically propelled vehicles.

It does fall under that remit. The only instance where it doesn't is where the pedalling action itself is assisted by a motor - i.e. the motor stops when you stop pedalling. Anything with a motor which acts on the wheel(s) independently of pedalling is a mechanically propelled vehicle.

humbert

seamus wrote: »

It does fall under that remit. The only instance where it doesn't is where the pedalling action itself is assisted by a motor - i.e. the motor stops when you stop pedalling. Anything with a motor which acts on the wheel(s) independently of pedalling is a mechanically propelled vehicle.

Ah, that makes more sense really.


...rushes off to cancel order.

blorg

There are quite a few regulations regarding pedal assist cycles to not be considered motorised vehicles, including:

- motor MUST be electric
- motor must taper and then cut off if the cyclist stops pedalling
- motor must cut off over 25km/h (this thing is advertised as going up to 80)

This thing fails all of these criteria and a bike fitted with one would have to meet all the regulations for a full-size motorbike, which are extensive.

From another thread on this topic quoting correspondence from the Vehicle Standards Division of the Department of Transport:

www.electricbikes.ie wrote:

The Road Traffic Act, 1961 defines a mechanically propelled vehicle (mpv)
as:-

"a vehicle intended or adapted for propulsion by mechanical means, including-
( a ) a bicycle or tricycle with an attachment for propelling it by mechanical power, whether or not the attachment is being used,
( b ) a vehicle the means of propulsion of which is electrical or partly electrical and partly mechanical, but not including a tramcar or other vehicle running on permanent rails;"

All mpvs must comply with Road Traffic law relating to the construction, equipment and use of vehicles i.e. they must meet all requirements covering such items as brakes, lights, dimensions, weight, springs, wheels, tyres, steering, gears, mudguards, view of the road, mirrors, safety glass, windscreen wipers, mirrors, speedometers, horn, silencer, exhausts emissions, condition and maintenance etc. In addition, a mechanically propelled vehicle may not be used in any public place unless there is in place third party insurance cover against its negligent use. A mechanically propelled vehicle is also required to be registered, is subject to motor tax and its driver will require a driving licence.

Electrically assisted cycles, known as "pedelecs", which have electric motors which only assist the pedalling effort and which do not act as a means of propulsion in their own right, are not considered to be mechanically propelled vehicles.