Irishman wants to kill for Islam..meet Terry the taliban.

iceage

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this guy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article6917485.ece

After watching his interview with Pat Kenny back in 2003 I think, this guy reckoned
he has finally found his calling. I reckon they'll be a few lads quite willing to ease him
on his way to martyrdom when he gets to Afghanistan.....

Dj Stiggie

I like the way he changed his first name to Khalid so it would be Islamic, but felt OK with Kelly as his last name

Imagine coming across Osama Kelly along the road

Morlar

It's a shame none of them ever want to be . . . . say, a litter-warden for allah. Personally I think he should have his Irish passport & citizenship revoked.

iceage

Morlar wrote: »

It's a shame none of them ever want to be . . . . say, a litter-warden for allah. Personally I think he should have his Irish passport & citizenship revoked.

I have to disagree with you there morlar. I have no issue with anyone finding they're true religion, and I have absolutely no problem with this guy being an Irish citizen or his entitlement to an Irish Passport. But like many in that Pat kenny interview I'm sure you'll agree that there was a outcry against this fella and his particular version of the Islamic religion.

Can't find a decent link to the interview.....anyone help with this?

Found it. Bit rough but watchable.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2998048752087753250#

petergfiffin

This guy is a complete and utter muppet. He says “I was living a cushy Western lifestyle, in a three-storey house with a swimming pool. I was your average Western racist,” am....ok...maybe I should become a racist cause I've checked all over my house and I still can't find my pool, then again I only live in a 2 storey house so maybe there's another floor I can't find.

What I find absolutely amazing is Nick Griffin (complete muppet) can cause so much consternation with his comments but for reasons of "balance" a complete and utter POS like this is allowed to say what he wants because he's a "muslim". Next time this guy lands in Ireland he should just be used as target practice for making threats against this country...end of.

piby

Morlar wrote: »

It's a shame none of them ever want to be . . . . say, a litter-warden for allah. Personally I think he should have his Irish passport & citizenship revoked.

+1 to that. No problem with religion but somebody who comes out with terrorist rubbish like that ain't a countryman of mine in my eyes.

The whole thing with his son as well, where he said he's have the kid proficient in weapons by the age of 10 . . .

Local-womanizer

5 hours training with an M-16! Surprised the marines havent signed him up ywt:rolleyes:

Burnt

iceage wrote: »

I have to disagree with you there morlar. I have no issue with anyone finding they're true religion, and I have absolutely no problem with this guy being an Irish citizen or his entitlement to an Irish Passport.

There is something about alot of late converts; they always seem to be
more fanatical and hardline, than those who have lived/been brought up
with whatever it happens to be, religion, politics even sport. Well to my
eyes anyway.

Mahatma coat

Burnt wrote: »

There is something about alot of late converts; they always seem to be
more fanatical and hardline, than those who have lived/been brought up
with whatever it happens to be, religion, politics even sport. Well to my
eyes anyway.

Oddly enough this statement can be applied to those who chose to fight for either side of the conflict.

I would hold this guy in the same light as those Irish people who join the American army and go to Afghanistan.

cyrusdvirus

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Oddly enough this statement can be applied to those who chose to fight for either side of the conflict.

I would hold this guy in the same light as those Irish people who join the American army and go to Afghanistan.

You would..

sunnyjim

Em, this guy wants to quite literally get away with murder for his religion. Quite different.

Blazer

Have to laugh at this comment on the site

As a fellow Irishman I would ask people to please be compassionate. This man is suffering from what is referred to as a Cranial PB deficiency (Lack of Lead to the Brain). Should any any British soldiers (or any other nationality) soldiers come across this man I would emplore them to administer the correct dose which is 5.56mm of lead to be administered between the left and right eyes, just above the bridge of the nose

I hope it comes true...:D

merrionsq

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Oddly enough this statement can be applied to those who chose to fight for either side of the conflict.

I would hold this guy in the same light as those Irish people who join the American army and go to Afghanistan.

Why? Do they change their names, their religion, and believe that killing the enemy is the will of God?

There is a well known phrase: "the zeal of a convert". People who grow up in a religion or tradition are more comfortable with it. Converts often feel the need to prove themselves and adhere more strictly to the rules. This can apply to things other than religion, but religion adds that crazy mystical/sprititual dimension.

In Khalid's case, his life wouldn't be such a mess if he hadn't become a criminal in Saudi Arabia. There's plenty of religions to choose from in Ireland, including Islam, but he happened to be stuck in a jail in an Islamic country with an Islamic fanatic.

Morpheus

dont let him back in the country for ANY reason, or else do but kick the scroats out of him when he gets here, unpatriotic tw*t.

send his wife and kid packing too - why should our govt's support a terrorists family?

see how happy he is when his son gets a real chance at martyrdom before marriageable age (or whatever that weird drivel was) as he grows up in swat valley.

Terry the Taliban ... pah, i hope you read boards you weirdo, Terry the Tosser more like.

DarkJager

The guy is obviously mentally stunted and quite naive. He doesn't have a clue about what he's doing and is trying to come across as some "terrorist minded" bad guy - unfortunately he only comes across as a man with the mind of a 2 year old who's been watching too many action movies.

Invite him back to Ireland, then very quietly take him away and put him down for his own good. Failing that, I'm sure fat deluded Irish guy vs trained US Marine is going to end well for him.

McArmalite

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Oddly enough this statement can be applied to those who chose to fight for either side of the conflict.

I would hold this guy in the same light as those Irish people who join the American army and go to Afghanistan.

You've made a good point there Mahatma - although I do think he is a nutter

Should he not be called, Paddy the Taliban ?

Fratton Fred

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Oddly enough this statement can be applied to those who chose to fight for either side of the conflict.

I would hold this guy in the same light as those Irish people who join the American army and go to Afghanistan.

The guy said that the 7?7 bombings were a happy time. he says he would like to have done it himself. He is nowhere near on a par with any Irishman who joins the British, American armies.

Irishmen and women have carried out a lot of terrorist attacks here and in the the UK. None of them (With the possible exception of Omagh) stooped as low as hitting a soft, 100% civilian, target like the tube. You may consider him in the same light, but fortunately 99% of your fellow countrymen think he is a ****.

joseph brand

Obviously never fitted in, here in Ireland. Nutjob. No loss to us anyway. He wants his son to go to

'heaven' before marriageable age

??

WTF is wrong with this guy? That is the ULTIMATE horror for any parent. But not if your a radical muzzie or a mentalist.

Mahatma coat

look at it this way
Heres a guy, born and raised in Ireland indoctrinated with an Irish world view, he moves to a FOREIGN country, begins to absorb the local culture, examines his position and decides to align himself with his adopted country, then he decides that he loves his new country and the way of life he is now accustomed to enough to defend it and its way of life militarily, so he enlists and answers the nations call to arms

the difference between the Marines and the Mujahadeen is purely geographic

Manic Moran

I'll let you know if I run into him. I'm having our intel officer look for any reported sightings in the computer system of a Khalid Kelly. There really can't be too many of them rolling around in our AO, unlike the scores of "Mohammed Ullahs" there are.

I wonder what the lads on the Islam forum make of this guy?

NTM

junder

Mahatma coat wrote: »

look at it this way
Heres a guy, born and raised in Ireland indoctrinated with an Irish world view, he moves to a FOREIGN country, begins to absorb the local culture, examines his position and decides to align himself with his adopted country, then he decides that he loves his new country and the way of life he is now accustomed to enough to defend it and its way of life militarily, so he enlists and answers the nations call to arms

the difference between the Marines and the Mujahadeen is purely geographic

Personely not heard of any marines wishing that thier child is dead before Marriageable age. Should be heading out to afghan myself in october 2010 with the Royal Irish, will be sure to keep an eye out for him

Fratton Fred

Mahatma coat wrote: »

look at it this way
Heres a guy, born and raised in Ireland indoctrinated with an Irish world view, he moves to a FOREIGN country, begins to absorb the local culture, examines his position and decides to align himself with his adopted country, then he decides that he loves his new country and the way of life he is now accustomed to enough to defend it and its way of life militarily, so he enlists and answers the nations call to arms

the difference between the Marines and the Mujahadeen is purely geographic

When he lived in Ireland, did he join the irish Army? He lived in the UK, did he join the British Army? he then lived in Saudi Arabia, did he join the Saudi Army? If he loves Afghanistan, why does he not join the ANA and try and make a difference that way?

I would hazard a guess and say the guy has a small dick and has a huge chip on his shoulder about it. Some mad Mullah is probably eager to get him to do interviews like this and possibly a video, before sending him out with a suicide vest strapped around him to kill some innocent people. Maybe school girls trying to learn how to read, or UN workers trying to help those affcted by the war in Kabul.

It is ****ing laughable that you try and justify what he is doing.

cyrusdvirus

Fratton Fred wrote: »

It is ****ing laughable that you try and justify what he is doing.

It's not laughable, it's pitiful.

It's people like myhat mycoat who drag down all forums they 'contribute' to where a bit of thought is required.

Sometimes i wish PC's came with an I.Q. tester, that a user has to prove themselves of above the intelligence of your average swamp fly before they are allowed use one

McArmalite

I remember their was some American in the Taliban, caught in a gun battle. I could possibly understand if his folks were from that part of the world but he was a white American bloke with no obvious connection to Islam or Afghanistan. Strange

McArmalite

Fratton Fred wrote: »

The guy said that the 7?7 bombings were a happy time. he says he would like to have done it himself. He is nowhere near on a par with any Irishman who joins the British, American armies.

Irishmen and women have carried out a lot of terrorist attacks here and in the the UK. None of them (With the possible exception of Omagh) stooped as low as hitting a soft, 100% civilian, target like the tube. You may consider him in the same light, but fortunately 99% of your fellow countrymen think he is a ****.

And the british army haven't done their fair share of murdering Irish people ?

Fratton Fred

McArmalite wrote: »

And the british army haven't done their fair share of murdering Irish people ?

Off topic, irrelevant and typical.

Mahatma coat

Oh I'm not trying in any way to justify his actions, I concur that he's a tool, I'm just sayin theres two sides to every story, but rather than risk offending some of the posters here by continuing, I'll leave it at that.

Poccington

McArmalite wrote: »

And the british army haven't done their fair share of murdering Irish people ?

Consider this a warning.

If you continue with your flaming, trolling and dragging discussions off topic you're going on a holiday.

Manic Moran

McArmalite wrote: »

I remember their was some American in the Taliban, caught in a gun battle. I could possibly understand if his folks were from that part of the world but he was a white American bloke with no obvious connection to Islam or Afghanistan. Strange

John Walker Lindh. Currently serving 20 years.

NTM

Local-womanizer

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Oh I'm not trying in any way to justify his actions, I concur that he's a tool, I'm just sayin theres two sides to every story, but rather than risk offending some of the posters here by continuing, I'll leave it at that.

I can understand your point about immersing himself in the culture and all that, but if he really loved the country he could surely go about a netter way of helping it. The fact he said Ireland is a legitimate target just further reinforces the fact the man is a lunatic. The sooner the man's dream is granted the better, lets hope the British or American soldier makes it a quick one.

OS119

he's a loon, i doubt the taliban would trust him as far as they could throw him - he'll end up with his throat cut on some nameless track in the middle of nowhere and no one will mourn his loss or remember his name...

does the Offences Against the State Act cover such pronouncements or alleged activities - and i wonder what the Irish governments attitude would be were the ANP to deliver him to the Irish embassy in Kabul?

Yusuf Mirza

He will soon find that far from the Taliban being the “Guardians of Islam” they are just a bunch of rednecks, uneducated, rude and vehemently tribal and racist. Yeah I can imagine that they won’t want any white man following them around shur he would get them killed standing out like a sore thumb.:rolleyes:

Actually can we just send all big thick yobbos to Swat Valley please? :DWell I’m glad that nut is over there at least and not here. He is the worzel gummage of Muslims I’m afraid. Hope he also gets the stuffing knocked out of him. He won’t get the dole there I don’t think.

Mahatma coat

I have a genuine question for a number of people wishing death on this man and especially the posters who promise to look out for him when they're in Afghanistan.

How would ye react if I posted Manic Morans picture on some Islamic Forum with members known to be fighting in the region, I'm pretty sure he'd get the same responses from those people as mr Kelly is getting here.

iceage

I started this post Mymat macoat or what ever your called, if some here reckon he should get what he deserves well bully for them, this was not MY intention. Now as for your last statement, that strike me almost as a threat. Care to elaborate?

I have no quarrel with you, or for that fact,with said Mr Kelly, he'll recieve whats coming to him in due course Inshallah. If your out to rise people, you've succeeded, so do me a personel favour and slink off to Politics or after hours or where ever you get your jollies. Unless....you have something positive to offer the thread, or the military Forum? well have you? Your Irish History is very informative, if a little blinkered.

Now I'm going to sign off for a bit, get some kip, and give you some time to evaluate your last comments. A bit of a gipsies for you, I occasionally have posted here pissed, or close to it, ask the lads here they're used to me rambling on, but this is getting serious mate. Think on.

troubleshooter

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I have a genuine question for a number of people wishing death on this man and especially the posters who promise to look out for him when they're in Afghanistan.

How would ye react if I posted Manic Morans picture on some Islamic Forum with members known to be fighting in the region, I'm pretty sure he'd get the same responses from those people as mr Kelly is getting here.

The man has either a personality disorder or is some kind of attention seeker. Possibly both.

Cant you see the difference between soldiers under the orders of politicans elected by the people of their nation and this guy who supports terrorists bombing his own nation and people ?

Local-womanizer

Manic hasent come out in the national media wishing death upon those who simply disagree with his views.He is not an extremist, he is a soldier,a huge difference.

Why should we fill obliged to hold back in our respones regarding this lunatic?He wishes death upon any country who he sees fit,including Ireland. There is no reason we wont be targeted and I would hate to think that this cunt could be involved in an attack on this country. Who knows what sh1te he is spreading to his fanatic friends about Ireland.

No symphaty for him if he prematurely meets Allah tbh.

As Iceage has pointed out,it could be very easy for your comment to be percieved as a threat.

elius

To be honest id imagine hes being well looked at by the gardai.. And if he happens to avoid 5.56 to the head he will be picked up as soon as he steps off the plain.. And just going back to people comments about irish joining the MOD to fight in afganistan etc, Thats far from the case.. Id say a lot of people would still join regardless weather the war on terror in afganistan was on or not.... People dont think Im going to join the armed forces because i want to go afganistan....

the immortals

the man is obviously in medical terms a complete nut job

Mahatma coat

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My Name

iceage wrote: »

I started this post Mymat macoat or what ever your called, if some here reckon he should get what he deserves well bully for them, this was not MY intention. Now as for your last statement, that strike me almost as a threat. Care to elaborate?

I have no quarrel with you, or for that fact,with said Mr Kelly, he'll recieve whats coming to him in due course Inshallah. If your out to rise people, you've succeeded, so do me a personel favour and slink off to Politics or after hours or where ever you get your jollies. Unless....you have something positive to offer the thread, or the military Forum? well have you? Your Irish History is very informative, if a little blinkered.

Now I'm going to sign off for a bit, get some kip, and give you some time to evaluate your last comments. A bit of a gipsies for you, I occasionally have posted here pissed, or close to it, ask the lads here they're used to me rambling on, but this is getting serious mate. Think on.

I'm sorry to have bothered, but if Reading a name from the top left of my post and transcribing it into yours is too much for you to handle then theres no point in trying to explain the subtle nuances of my point.

jivedude

Mahatma coat wrote: »

look at it this way
Heres a guy, born and raised in Ireland indoctrinated with an Irish world view, he moves to a FOREIGN country, begins to absorb the local culture, examines his position and decides to align himself with his adopted country, then he decides that he loves his new country and the way of life he is now accustomed to enough to defend it and its way of life militarily, so he enlists and answers the nations call to arms

the difference between the Marines and the Mujahadeen is purely geographic

How can you compare soldiers to terrorists? No way man !

Mahatma coat

how can you make a distinction when both sides are in the wrong??

how can you support an invading army, whats the difference between the 'Coalation of the Willing' and the Axis

jivedude

Mahatma coat wrote: »

how can you make a distinction when both sides are in the wrong??

how can you support an invading army, whats the difference between the 'Coalation of the Willing' and the Axis

Come on man, soldering is a profession, a recognised,acceptable unit of defense with rules n regulations, commands etc.. Soldiers dont put childre n women in front of tanks to win a war . Even when the invassion is wrong, are poeple not not been tried for war crimes etc... Have u heard of terroist camp jailing their comrades for misconduct etc..?

Manic Moran

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I have a genuine question for a number of people wishing death on this man and especially the posters who promise to look out for him when they're in Afghanistan.

How would ye react if I posted Manic Morans picture on some Islamic Forum with members known to be fighting in the region, I'm pretty sure he'd get the same responses from those people as mr Kelly is getting here.

In order to make the experiment valid, you would have to do more than just publish my picture. You would also have to quote me, either from my writings in An Cosantoir or Michael Green's "War Stories of American Tankers", from any news interviews I have done, or even from any of the web boards I have posted on.

You will notice several fairly fundamental differences.

1) I have never said a single word against Islam or the average Islamic way of life. There is no root cause of difference between me and an Islamic board as there is between Kelly and an Irish board.

2) I actively hope that Afghans and Iraqis will have a better life of their choosing, not of my choosing (Or the Taliban's choosing). I have never suggest that they should convert religion, stop having multiple wives, start drinking or whatever, on pain of bombing or anything else. Once they have a functioning government and infrastructure of their own and representative of the wishes of the people, I will wish them luck, and argue in favour of our departure.

3) I do not make any distinction as to religion or nationality. I will shoot at anyone who shoots at me or who is attempting to destabilise the process of government and infrastructure building, I am an equal-opportunity opponent and do not ask questions of religion or nationality before deciding on an appropriate level of force. (Which begs the question, what does Mr Kelly think of the various muslim countries that have troops bouncing around these parts?)

4) I am not here by choice. I could just have easily ended up in Kosovo, Sinai or Colombia, or anywhere else that Americans get sent. Mr Kelly is specifically travelling to partake in a war of his choice against an enemy of his choice.

NTM

Mahatma coat

Simple question

Do you 'Believe' that what you are doing is Right?

Did the Afghanis ask for your help?

as an Irishman Why do you feel it nescesary to join a Foreign army?

Can you not see that both you and Kelly are opposite sides of the same coin.

both of ye have been sucked in by propaganda and brainwashed by your respective militarys.

Manic Moran

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Simple question

Do you 'Believe' that what you are doing is Right?

Yes.

Did the Afghanis ask for your help?

Some of them do openly. Some of them are so intimidated by the Taliban that they will only speak to us when it is dark.

as an Irishman Why do you feel it nescesary to join a Foreign army?

I chose to emigrate to the US. If the country is good enough for me to want to live there, it is also good enough for me to provide a service back to that country. In exactly the same manner as I wore an Irish uniform when I lived in Ireland. My being in the US military was a by-product of my choice to move to the US, not a source of the decision to move.

Can you not see that both you and Kelly are opposite sides of the same coin.

Nope.

both of ye have been sucked in by propaganda and brainwashed by your respective militarys.

Do tell. What is the plain truth about Afghanistan that I am so obviously missing, here? I see an 18th Century country with mobile 'phones. One whose most recent government seems to have thought that punishing people for not wearing beards was more important than an educated population. Which thought that destroying history was more important than building prosperity. One which ruled by the sword (literally) instead of allowing the population to have a say in how Afghanistan should have been run. And, yes, a government which provided sanctuary to an organisation which decided to declare war on the US.

NTM

iceage

Mahatma coat wrote: »

if Reading a name from the top left of my post and transcribing it into yours..............

Touche. My attempt at humour obviously missed my intended target...Fail on my behalf.

Fratton Fred

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I have a genuine question for a number of people wishing death on this man and especially the posters who promise to look out for him when they're in Afghanistan.

How would ye react if I posted Manic Morans picture on some Islamic Forum with members known to be fighting in the region, I'm pretty sure he'd get the same responses from those people as mr Kelly is getting here.

Now I am only speculating here, but I would guess that wearing an American uniform and driving around in a ****ing great big tank probably makes Manic a pretty big target already.

Morlar

Also the americans don't go around intentionally trying to kill as many innocent civilians as possible. Nor do they go chopping womens' heads off, or killing people who do not adhere strictly to their religion, or killing women for trying to get an education etc etc Whether you agree with Americans being there or not there is no moral comparison between the Americans and the taliban/islamists.

junder

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I have a genuine question for a number of people wishing death on this man and especially the posters who promise to look out for him when they're in Afghanistan.

How would ye react if I posted Manic Morans picture on some Islamic Forum with members known to be fighting in the region, I'm pretty sure he'd get the same responses from those people as mr Kelly is getting here.

when i go to afghan i think i will be fairly easy to spot since i will be running around in desert fatigues. Moreover this talk of keeping an eye out for him is just gung ho talk after all chances of actully coming across him are almost non-existant, however if i did and he is umarmed then he would have to be taken prisoner since he has openly decleared his support for the taliban, if he is armed an involved and taking part in the conflict then we are perfectly entitled to slot him

Tarzan007

The guy is a looney, though I wouldn't be surprised that it was some practical joker doing it for a wind up, it has been known to happen.

Yusuf Mirza

Khalid Kelly is a donkey and I hope he gets whipped like one inside Guantanamo Bay. Whenever the Taliban commit a “martyrdom operation” (mass murder) usually its women and children who get whisked isn’t it. I as an Irish Muslim have the most right to jive this turkey. Please believe me when I say Muslims don’t support this idiocy. There are estimates 30,000 radicals worldwide which is nothing when you understand there are 1.3 billion Muslims world wide. We take your x-rays, hand you your happy meal, and deliver your pizzas. We are a kind people really.:)

Remember when it was the IRA bombing London and who were the largest terrorist organisation in the Western world. I wasn’t fun having an “oirish” accent in London those days was it? “paddies got a bomb”. Yeah they were harsh times for the Irish alright. That was my dads experience in London in the 60’s. Were all Irish terrorist? Hell no.

We should not have such a short memory.