US: 4x08 - "Road Kill" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

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TVRage.com summary:

Dexter has always known his father's Code was meant to protect him from exposure. But after committing a serious mistake, he wonders if it could have been designed to protect him from something even more dangerous - human emotion. When he discovers that Trinity is planning an out-of-town trip, Dexter sees an opportunity to ride along and gain insight into the mind of a fellow monster. Even so, Dexter isn't prepared for the startling revelations Trinity makes along the way, revelations about his own past which only serve to convince Dexter of what he must do. Meanwhile, back at Miami Metro, Debra refuses to let a technicality keep her off the Trinity case. She works through others to ensure her voice is heard - that is, until she realizes that her single-minded pursuit of the Trinity Killer may have blinded her to the truth.

http://www.tvrage.com/Dexter/episodes/1064854574

After last week's ending, really looking forward to the fallout...

Amtmann

Average. And predictable.

So, reporter chick probably did shoot Lundy (to get a story so she wouldn't lose her job).

Rita will have an affair. Again, predictable.

Also, the whole departmental budget story was fabricated solely so that LaGuerta and Angel could get it on. This didn't advance the story in any way whatsoever.

Also, sorry, but "Kyle Butler" is far too well associated with the good Arthur Mitchell now. If the well-known, godly home builder and school teacher were to go missing, who wouldn't say to the investigating cop "you should speak to Kyle Butler, maybe he knows something", before giving a description of Dexter.

I'm sorry, but the plotting is kinda weak.

Interestingly, Quinn may try to look up Lyla in an attempt to get some dirt on Dexter -- and find that she is missing. Other than that, a disappointing episode.

SDTimeout

Not a bad episode by all accounts, I was correct about the red herring anyway. If Rita does cheat on dexter i will be a little annoyed. Considering the whole ethos of her character it would be disapointing. Then again that gives dexter some sort of loop hole to get out of the worry of having to give an excuse when he wants to do a bit of moon lighting.

It also rules anton out of the killing as some have predicted Could very well have been quinns girlfriend.

Thing lingtow (sp) ? is great, You could see he was scoping out that family for his next victims. Personally speaking and if he was about to commit. Does anyone know if he took all the ashes with him? We may see a more reckless trinity now if all the ashes are gone.

Decent episode. There have been worse this season, Dispising the angel and maria bits

Side note i always said deb had small tits :pac: flat chested always in the shirts she wore to work

SDTimeout

There also wasn't a preview thing at the end of my video so i youtubed it if anyone wants to see preview for next week

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Brk050JCSU

Interesting from his son, especially the whole locks on the door thing , Remorse from Reporter ? Looks like rita will cheat on dexter, Hate her . Want to know what the coffin resembles and him showing up at her door is more than likely another red herring. Something stupid like i really want to commend you on your article bull****.

kaimera

wasn't that impressed this week, bored mostly.

lordgoat

Ya this week was alot of filler for me. Rita is boring boring boring. Completely and utterly meh in every way.

It should pick up from here on him, everything is set up nicely for a big ending with Dex killing Trinity and probably Quinn finding out something about Dexter.

I thought Dex would kill reporter for shooting deb but it looks like Trinity bests him to it...

Prowetod

lordgoat wrote: »

Ya this week was alot of filler for me. Rita is boring boring boring. Completely and utterly meh in every way.

It should pick up from here on him, everything is set up nicely for a big ending with Dex killing Trinity and probably Quinn finding out something about Dexter.

I thought Dex would kill reporter for shooting deb but it looks like Trinity bests him to it...

Please put Spoiler Tags on stuff relating to next weeks episode.

I agree with it being a filler, it was a boring episode compared to other ones this season. I still gave it a "very good" though;)

Amtmann

Also it's quite ridiculous that Deb and Co only now realised the height of the shooter. I mean, they have forensics experts working there, don't they?

And, when Trinity and Dexter just barged into that couple's house, it was a completely unrealistic situation. It would not happen. This was actually the worst episode of Dexter I've ever seen.

Ron DMC

eoccork wrote: »

Please put Spoiler Tags on stuff relating to next weeks episode.

Spoiler tags added.

Seriously guys, discussion of up to the current episode only. Otherwise use spoilers. Lots of people don't watch the promos.

jayteecork

Very disappointing.

first time I'm giving an episode of Dexter a "bad" rating.

J-blk

Yep, thought it was average at best and not a lot really happened. So bored by LaGuerta and Angel, what's the point? I don't think Trinity was scoping out the family as victims, seems he feels he is at the end of his path, no more ashes left and the suicide attempt...

Also, I didn't see the preview and read a spoiler here... can people either not discuss the next episode in the current episode thread (just start a new one if you want to) or at least indicate before the spoiler that what you are referring to is regarding the next episode (as some people end up using spoilers for what happened in this episode, even through the title already indicates that), like this:

"I read somewhere that next week

Dexter gives up forensics and becomes a milk man...

"

JohnK

I'm still not convinced it was the Reporter. They made a bit of a deal about how the shooter could have been crouching but they only dismissed that because they were thinking a slow and old Trinity - not a young and fast Anton so I still like him as the shooter.

Hyzepher

I don't think there is any chance that it is Anton. Too much of a risk that Deb would recognise him. Also it would take a very good marksman to intentionally kill Lundy but just wound Deb in that way. I can only imagine that both were to die.

Amtmann

I think it is possible also that Trinity's son shot Lundy and Deb for some reason. He's the right height -- but we'll have to wait and see.

jor el

JohnK wrote: »

I'm still not convinced it was the Reporter. They made a bit of a deal about how the shooter could have been crouching but they only dismissed that because they were thinking a slow and old Trinity - not a young and fast Anton so I still like him as the shooter.

I was thinking that he might have been bent over the bonnet of a car, hence the reduced height. But, Lundy would have noticed Anton standing 5 feet behind Deb, even if he were bending over a car, even more so if it were Trinity. However, a cute little woman just walking to a car may not have given him any reason to notice, till she pulled a gun.

Why would she shoot them though? Surely it's not just to get a story? That's lame.

Overall the episode was very average, poor even. No real progress on any front, Dexter even goes as far as to save Trinity from suicide. Actually, that whole scene was a bit crap. There was no one at the build site when Dexter turned up, yet, 30 seconds later when he's about to drop Trinity, there's a whole load of people, on the roof of the building. If he had drugged Trinity, as he was planning, there's no way he'd have made it out of there and back to the hotel with an unconscious man without being seen. How did he plan on getting back? Why bring the paralyzing drug? That's lazy writing.

Rita's possible affair, I don't think it really matters, unless she'd decide to leave Dexter, which would rid him of his "disguise". I don't think that's the way it should go. Also, why would she consider an affair with this neighbour, that she's known for months, just as things are better with Dexter. Doesn't make sense at all. 3 or 4 episodes ago, sure, but not now. More lazy writing.

5starpool

Did I miss something in a previous episode? When was the killer only 5 feet away from Deb when she was shot? I don't remember that being said, but that obviously doesn't mean it wasn't the case. It seems like a very exposed place to be shooting someone. If not the reporter woman (which again would be on the face of it unlikely, although she is ruthless) then who? There is no one other than Trinity, Anton or herself who is a character who would have done this surely? The only other characters this series are Rita (no), the kids (obv not), and the other cops. Quinn is the only dodgy cop and he is too tall if that evidence stacks up.

Hyzepher

Dom, it was mentioned last episode when Deb had her shirt off with Masuka - I suppose we can forgive you for not noticing!

amacachi

5starpool wrote: »

Did I miss something in a previous episode? When was the killer only 5 feet away from Deb when she was shot? I don't remember that being said, but that obviously doesn't mean it wasn't the case. It seems like a very exposed place to be shooting someone. If not the reporter woman (which again would be on the face of it unlikely, although she is ruthless) then who? There is no one other than Trinity, Anton or herself who is a character who would have done this surely? The only other characters this series are Rita (no), the kids (obv not), and the other cops. Quinn is the only dodgy cop and he is too tall if that evidence stacks up.

I'd guess they found casings on the ground and got the distance from that.

Neil3030

Could the assailant have been sitting in a car and create the same bullet trajectory? They were in a parking lot. That would bring just about every character into question.

The Don

There were a lot of holes in this episode. Especially the 4 walls build when people appeared out of nowhere just before Dexter was going to tranquilize Trinity. Dexter isn't that sloppy.

I still don't think that Rita will cheat on Dexter. She may end up kissing the neighbour but I think that that will be it. Then she'll confess to Dexter as there shouldn't be any secrets between them and he'll have a little 'talk' with the neighbour to warn him off.

The whole who shot Lundy and Debra thing is getting messy now. Finding out that the shooter was only 5 feet away, then that they only realise the trajectory now. Sloppy.

I did like the remorse that Dexter was feeling. I was surprised that Harry didn't appear in the episode to help Dexter cope.

jor el

amacachi wrote: »

I'd guess they found casings on the ground and got the distance from that.

Masuka said something about power burns, or GSR spread on Deb's back, and they could use that to calculate the shooter was about 5 feet away.

Neil3030 wrote: »

Could the assailant have been sitting in a car and create the same bullet trajectory?

Plausible suggestion, better than ruling out Trinity and Anton straight away, and given that Lundy was facing Deb, and hence facing in the direction of the killer, it begs the question of how the FBI's top manhunter failed to spot a gunman (or woman) standing right behind Deb. He would have spotted either Anton or Trinity.

The Don wrote: »

The whole who shot Lundy and Debra thing is getting messy now.

I'm starting to think it's a red herring, i.e. it's nobody important at all. Just a random act by a mugger. Which would be a fairly pissy way to end it.

The Don wrote: »

I was surprised that Harry didn't appear in the episode to help Dexter cope.

Yeah, I noticed that too, no Harry. Thought it was something to do with the amount of time Dexter was spending with Trinity, he's the new teacher now. Could also be that since Dexter broke the code, and killed an innocent, his psyche doesn't want to face Harry right now.

Sherifu

The scene at four walls irked me too. So much of it didn't make sense. People around, getting Trinity back to the hotel and saving him just so he can kill him...

I'll give this an average 3/5.

The Don

jor el wrote: »

I'm starting to think it's a red herring, i.e. it's nobody important at all. Just a random act by a mugger. Which would be a fairly pissy way to end it.

Its starting to feel like that but iirc the mugger had gloves on when he took Lundy's wallet? I doubt some random mugger would have been wearing gloves unless they were a bit of a pro. Also there has to be some significance that he killed Lundy. I'll probably be good to watch that scene again.

Amtmann

It seems at this point that it was a big mistake on the part of the writers to kill Lundy off. He was, after all, Dexter's most challenging opponent since Doakes. No one has a proper motive for shooting Lundy and Deb. If it was Christine, and if her motive was that she needed a story, then that's very lame. I might have to start re-evaluating my loyalty to the show!

5starpool

Hyzepher wrote: »

Dom, it was mentioned last episode when Deb had her shirt off with Masuka - I suppose we can forgive you for not noticing!

Ah feck off. Deb is way too annoying to be pervy about anyways imo.

suspectpackage

weak enough episode. hopefully just the calm before the storm so to speak. can't wait to see how this season ends. hopefully dexter gets picked up for another season afterwards.

J-blk

suspectpackage wrote: »

hopefully dexter gets picked up for another season afterwards.

It has already been picked up for at least another year. Last year, Showtime announced that they would be giving the show both a season 4 and season 5.

Hyzepher

Only recently noticed that Deb And Dexter are real-life husband and wife.

Zippitydoo

Poor episode. The whole timeframe was way off for the 4 walls scenario. Dexter obviously would have carried out the murder at night leaving time to clean up but suddenly it's morning... cmon.
Deb was a headwrecker as usual- there's definitely something more to the neighbour though I think, someone off about him which I'm sure the writers will flesh out.
I have a feeling reporter lady will play a bigger part then we think, and I think quinn might take the brunt of her actions, possibly after finding out about dexter or something like that.
The absence of Anton in interesting though, think that could be it for his character?