7mm-08

newby.204

Hey lads, another caliber thread from me,
anyone shoot 7mm-08, do you use it for deer? Whats the price of ammo and what brand/bullet weight are you shooting? Also what rifle are you using?

newby.204

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foxshooter243

Ill try to breathe some life into this thread:D-I dont use a 7mm-08 but my sister in law uses one to hunt white tail and muleys in the states:eek:.
Its the 308 case necked down to the increasily popular 7mm caliber.
Its considered suitable for most North American game so would be a good choice for Irish hunting conditions..most factory rounds are in the 120 -140 grain bracket, but in the states its reloaded with heavier ammo such as 162 grain boat tail spire points for hunting and for match use you can use 162 grain A-max.
ITs quite a useful hunting/target calibre and the 7mm bullet that it uses has grown quite a bit in popularity this last few years, so much so that Hornady the bullet manufacturers have extended their line of 7 mm bullets for reloading { in normal countries:rolleyes:}.
so if your thinking of buying one as a deer rifle, it would be an admirable choice imo:)

newby.204

Thats exactly what i plan to use it for, i had it down to a .308 but then i found out about this and just kinda want it, the feeling i get from reading is that reloading is kinda the best route to go down with this caliber. Also i dont want to pick a round thats hard to find factory for in Ireland either because that will mean €€€€€

foxshooter243

newby.204 wrote: »

Thats exactly what i plan to use it for, i had it down to a .308 but then i found out about this and just kinda want it, the feeling i get from reading is that reloading is kinda the best route to go down with this caliber. Also i dont want to pick a round thats hard to find factory for in Ireland either because that will mean €€€€€

ammo supply would be a problem id think, thats where the 308 will beat it hands down , but in saying that the ammo could be got easy enough by a dealer..however if I was buying a 7 mm-08 id like to be rolling my own;)

It wasn't me!

I spoke to dwighet about his when he got it, as I liked the idea. From talking to him, he wasn't having ammo difficulties and he was getting it for a very reasonable price compared to some calibres. It'd be a fantastic calibre for deer here and definitely on my list for consideration down the line.

dwighet

i got one....and am very happy with it..shooting 140 gn fed vital shok...there isnt a great deal of choices out there for ammo but In all fairness i didnt have a good look as the vital shok does the job very well...

clivej

dwighet wrote: »

i got one....and am very happy with it..shooting 140 gn fed vital shok...there isnt a great deal of choices out there for ammo but In all fairness i didnt have a good look as the vital shok does the job very well...

Lads if you want to look at a gun - drool over D's gun.


Go on D put the 7mm 08 custom rifle photo up again and piss all the "I wana BIG gun too" possers off.;)

dwighet

clivej wrote: »

Lads if you want to look at a gun - drool over D's gun.


Go on D put the 7mm 08 custom rifle photo up again and piss all the "I wana BIG gun too" possers off.;)

not my thing Clive J.....;);)

newby.204

can i see it?? and also where do you get your ammo and how much is it a box?? feel free to go to pm if you dont wnat to show off!!

dwighet

newby.204 wrote: »

can i see it?? and also where do you get your ammo and how much is it a box?? feel free to go to pm if you dont wnat to show off!!

ammo is around 28 per box from stakelums in Thurles...john greene in kilmacow has some...im sure all dealers stock some..

newby.204

very nice, its a 700 anyway(at least i hope it is or il look like a twat), but whats the barrel/stock? is it pillar/glass bedded? that a leupold on top?

dwighet

newby.204 wrote: »

very nice, its a 700 anyway(at least i hope it is or il look like a twat), but whats the barrel/stock? is it pillar/glass bedded? that a leupold on top?

it has: leupold vx3 4-14x40
blue printed rem 700 action
timney trigger
mcmillan hunters edge ultralight stock(pillar bedded)
lother walther 24inch barrel 1 in 10 twist

CJhaughey

Thats a nice setup, looks well balanced with that scope on it.
Kind of a .243 on 'roids:D

Cass

dwighet wrote: »

ammo is around 28 per box from stakelums in Thurles...

If i'm not terribly mistaken i think Sean has one in stock. Well he did a few weeks ago. Timber stock but thats about all i can remember about it.

If you don't mind me asking and no offence intended here lads (with 7mm-08s) why go for it when the ammo choice and rifle choice in the .308 is so much wider. The casings are identical the only difference is one has a .308 (7.8mm) head the other a .284 (7.2mm) head.

Its just a curiosity thing, no more.




PS - I don't have, never had and never shot a 7mm-08 but i'm asuming it can't be that much different to a .308

dwighet

CJhaughey wrote: »

Thats a nice setup, looks well balanced with that scope on it.
Kind of a .243 on 'roids:D

Your spot on there...

Jonty

ezridax wrote: »

If i'm not terribly mistaken i think Sean has one in stock. Well he did a few weeks ago. Timber stock but thats about all i can remember about it.

If you don't mind me asking and no offence intended here lads (with 7mm-08s) why go for it when the ammo choice and rifle choice in the .308 is so much wider. The casings are identical the only difference is one has a .308 (7.8mm) head the other a .284 (7.2mm) head.

Its just a curiosity thing, no more.




PS - I don't have, never had and never shot a 7mm-08 but i'm asuming it can't be that much different to a .308

I think its a steyr in Stakelums, timber stocked, threaded?

dwighet

Jonty wrote: »

I think its a steyr in Stakelums, timber stocked, threaded?

Thats the one...I took a look at it last week...nice rifle!!!!

dwighet

ezridax wrote: »

If i'm not terribly mistaken i think Sean has one in stock. Well he did a few weeks ago. Timber stock but thats about all i can remember about it.

If you don't mind me asking and no offence intended here lads (with 7mm-08s) why go for it when the ammo choice and rifle choice in the .308 is so much wider. The casings are identical the only difference is one has a .308 (7.8mm) head the other a .284 (7.2mm) head.

Its just a curiosity thing, no more.




PS - I don't have, never had and never shot a 7mm-08 but i'm asuming it can't be that much different to a .308

The 7mm head just ticked all the right boxes for me...I wanted a short action light weight rifle that shoots a 120-140gn pill flat and fast and hits home hard..

The 308 case is renowned for its accuracy and coupled with a 7mm head with its good b.c(better than a 30 cal head for the same weight)
Im on a winner...

Thats just my way of thinking...

newby.204

ezridax wrote: »

If i'm not terribly mistaken i think Sean has one in stock. Well he did a few weeks ago. Timber stock but thats about all i can remember about it.

If you don't mind me asking and no offence intended here lads (with 7mm-08s) why go for it when the ammo choice and rifle choice in the .308 is so much wider. The casings are identical the only difference is one has a .308 (7.8mm) head the other a .284 (7.2mm) head.

Its just a curiosity thing, no more.




PS - I don't have, never had and never shot a 7mm-08 but i'm asuming it can't be that much different to a .308

Balllistically better than a .308 and it kicks less!! thats why i went for it!!

PJ Hunter

newby.204 wrote: »

Balllistically better than a .308 and it kicks less!! thats why i wnet for it!!

the 260:p

nothing much between them
6.5x55 and 260, 7mm08 and 7x57

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/big-game-hunting/50650-6-5x55-swede-7mm-08-a.html

clivej

newby.204 wrote: »

Balllistically better than a .308 and it kicks less!! thats why i went for it!!

I didn't find that as the 7mm 08 I shot took the shoulder off me. I find my 308 is just nice to shoot and when your 'in the aim' and fire you don't feel the recoil as much.

CJhaughey

clivej wrote: »

I didn't find that as the 7mm 08 I shot took the shoulder off me. I find my 308 is just nice to shoot and when your 'in the aim' and fire you don't feel the recoil as much.

You should try a nice .243 they are very sweet to shoot, recoil barely noticeable.

newby.204

PJ Hunter wrote: »

the 260:p

nothing much between them
6.5x55 and 260, 7mm08 and 7x57

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/big-game-hunting/50650-6-5x55-swede-7mm-08-a.html

looked at the 260 but thought it might be a touch exotic for ireland!! im open to be proved wrong

Cass

dwighet wrote: »

The 7mm head just ticked all the right boxes for me...I wanted a short action light weight rifle that shoots a 120-140gn pill flat and fast and hits home hard..

The 308 case is renowned for its accuracy and coupled with a 7mm head with its good b.c(better than a 30 cal head for the same weight)
Im on a winner...

Thats just my way of thinking...

Thanks.

Originally Posted by newby.204
Balllistically better than a .308 and it kicks less!! thats why i went for it!!

I won't get into ballistics as i've no experience with 7mm, but with regard to the kick factor. You get a 140gr 7mm-08 and 140gr .308 fired through identical sized rifles i just cannot see how you could tell the difference between recoil. Same load, same casing, same weighted rifle. The difference between my 6.5, .308 and 30-06 is so slight that apart from the weight of the 30-06 (its noticeably lighter than the othe 2) you couldn't really differentiate between them.

Anyway just an opinion, not putting down your rifle or anything.

dwighet

clivej wrote: »

I didn't find that as the 7mm 08 I shot took the shoulder off me. I find my 308 is just nice to shoot and when your 'in the aim' and fire you don't feel the recoil as much.

the 7mm08 you shot was mine..built as a mountain rifle...of course its going to kick..it weighs 7 pound!!!!
your 308 is a varmint gun..... heavy barrel heavy stock....

Theres a huge differance old mate...DONT get me started Clive:mad::mad::D

dwighet

ezridax wrote: »

Thanks.



I won't get into ballistics as i've no experience with 7mm, but with regard to the kick factor. You get a 140gr 7mm-08 and 140gr .308 fired through identical sized rifles i just cannot see how you could tell the difference between recoil. Same load, same casing, same weighted rifle. The difference between my 6.5, .308 and 30-06 is so slight that apart from the weight of the 30-06 (its noticeably lighter than the othe 2) you couldn't really differentiate between them.

Anyway just an opinion, not putting down your rifle or anything.

Im pretty sure that using the same rifle(weight) and same factory ammo(weight) that the 308 will still kick a tad harder than the 7mm08 simply for the fact that the 308 bullet will have more powder in it than the 7mm does.

doesnt really matter anyway...there both cracking rounds..Ive never heard a bad word said about either being used for deer..

Cass

dwighet wrote: »

Im pretty sure that using the same rifle(weight) and same factory ammo(weight) that the 308 will still kick a tad harder than the 7mm08 simply for the fact that the 308 bullet will have more powder in it than the 7mm does.

A tad is all. So subtle is the difference, the choice between 7mm-08 and .308 is more a personal one about calibre so. I yield to your experience sir.

doesnt really matter anyway...there both cracking rounds..Ive never heard a bad word said about either being used for deer..

+1

Spunk84

i lived in the states for 5 years and hunting deer with various rifles. i find from 7mm-08 it all depends on where you get your ammo from.

Most of the yanks prefer the 308 as the ammo is esily available everywhere so if there stuck up in the back lands of nowhere you are sure to find a local dealer selling 308 ammo.Also the 308 is much cheaper than 7mm

dwighet

ezridax wrote: »

A tad is all. So subtle is the difference, the choice between 7mm-08 and .308 is more a personal one about calibre so. I yield to your experience sir.



+1

My father is Sir...im just Dwighet(who likes to ramble on now and then)
All in good fun of course;)

PJ Hunter

ezridax wrote: »

Thanks.



I won't get into ballistics as i've no experience with 7mm, but with regard to the kick factor. You get a 140gr 7mm-08 and 140gr .308 fired through identical sized rifles i just cannot see how you could tell the difference between recoil. Same load, same casing, same weighted rifle. The difference between my 6.5, .308 and 30-06 is so slight that apart from the weight of the 30-06 (its noticeably lighter than the othe 2) you couldn't really differentiate between them.

Anyway just an opinion, not putting down your rifle or anything.

You get a 140gr 7mm-08 and 140gr .308 fired through identical sized rifles i just cannot see how you could tell the difference between recoil. Same load, same casing, same weighted rifle.

the narrower tube has more bullet surface contact (pressure) :rolleyes:

clivej

dwighet wrote: »

the 7mm08 you shot was mine..built as a mountain rifle...of course its going to kick..it weighs 7 pound!!!!
your 308 is a varmint gun..... heavy barrel heavy stock....

Theres a huge differance old mate...DONT get me started Clive:mad::mad::D

I know...

I'm just a frail overweight elder lemon:rolleyes:

And be fair to yourself and your gun it weights under the 7lb mark all up (with scope) and is a work of art.

If only I could have....... your 7mm08 (cliveJ now dreams on)

It wasn't me!

clivej wrote: »

I know...

I'm just a frail overweight elder lemon:rolleyes:

And be fair to yourself and your gun it weights under the 7lb mark all up (with scope) and is a work of art.

If only I could have....... your 7mm08 (cliveJ now dreams on)

Work of art is right. I picked that thing up for a look and it's so nicely balanced I could shoot oranges standing at 200 yards with it. Definitely a serious piece of advertising there for John Greene's work. I have a job for him actually, now that I think about it...

foxshooter243

recoil charts;

http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=56996

The 7mm-o8 is a tad lighter than 308

clivej

foxshooter243 wrote: »

recoil charts;

http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=56996

The 7mm-o8 is a tad lighter than 308

Instreasting to see that the 150gr 300 win mag has nearly twice the recoil of the 140gr 7mm 08. I don't think clivey will be shooting one of those in a hurry.........;););) a wink is as good as a...................................

dwighet

clivej wrote: »

Instreasting to see that the 150gr 300 win mag has nearly twice the recoil of the 140gr 7mm 08. I don't think clivey will be shooting one of those in a hurry.........;););) a wink is as good as a...................................

Oh yes you will CliveJ...sooner than we think..;);)

Heres something to get the heart pumping