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Irish Drunkin Dickheads

  • 14-11-2009 10:40am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭


    So I'm out with a few mates tonight having a few pints in an Irish bar we frequent.

    I'm washing my hands after having a slash when a fella from Dublin starts accusing me of throwing bog roll over the cubicle in which he is having a slash.

    He wont take my word for it that I didn't throw bog roll over the cubicle & decides to create a huge scene in the middle of the bar which creates much embarrassment on my behalf as I Know many of the people in the bar.

    It gets to the point where I tell him to either funk off or take it outside & he backs down & disappears.

    So me & my mates (who are well travelled) start discussing, what is it about Irish fella's in particular that we seem so insecure that we tend to start Drunkin fights for no particular reason. I've never had any sh!te to deal with on my travels from a person from another country but I have had 1 or 2 incidents with fellow Irish men.

    So what's the story lads?
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    I reckon it's all in the numbers.
    800 years,1 in 4 etc.
    We're just a bit messed up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    Hephaestus wrote: »
    So I'm out with a few mates tonight having a few pints in an Irish bar we frequent.

    I'm washing my hands after having a slash when a fella from Dublin starts accusing me of throwing bog roll over the cubicle in which he is having a slash.

    He wont take my word for it that I didn't throw bog roll over the cubicle & decides to create a huge scene in the middle of the bar which creates much embarrassment on my behalf as I Know many of the people in the bar.

    It gets to the point where I tell him to either funk off or take it outside & he backs down & disappears.

    So me & my mates (who are well travelled) start discussing, what is it about Irish fella's in particular that we seem so insecure that we tend to start Drunkin fights for no particular reason. I've never had any ****e to deal with on my travels from a person from another country but I have had 1 or 2 incidents with fellow Irish men.

    So what's the story lads?

    But are you guilty of said offence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    You shouldn't have thrown the bog roll......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    Never really had any problems, in fact usually it's the opposite. Was happy to run into a group of lads from Tallaght when some big Swedish bummer was getting agro in the 5 story nightclub in Prague. They resolved the situation pretty quickly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭big_show


    He's clearly insecure if he was taking a slash in the cubicle....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    big_show wrote: »
    He's clearly insecure if he was taking a slash in the cubicle....

    Also ,temporarily insecure if he had been in taking a line of something...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Jet Black


    I find the Irish are more likely to resolve it. Calm down and see it as a joke, laugh it off.

    Were, say the English are more notable for escalating the situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭f1dan


    Sitec wrote: »
    you werent drunk enough to enjoy yourself so. the next time you and your mates ever have that coinversation have a double vodka afterwards, dont bother starting a thread on it, it hurts baby seals in the long run. they are fairly vital to our eco system. stop ruining our eco system. we only have one.

    What do seals have to do with drunken arguing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    big_show wrote: »
    He's clearly insecure if he was taking a slash in the cubicle....

    Yeah, what the hell is with lads who, even if a whole row of urinals are free, still go into the cubicle and loudly lock the door behind em. I have a friend who always does this. He did grow up with 6 sisters and no brothers. I think hes fúckin scarred!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Hephaestus wrote: »

    So me & my mates (who are well travelled)

    Knackers?.

    :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 jogoeire


    So you asked the guy to fight and he said no? The thug!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Its all a macho bravado bull**** culture we have - to be honest I blame drink, mankinds great poison (Though a lovely poison it is too) We're not alone though. Get back to me if ever you are unfortunate enough to get into a confrontation in a London pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Well travelled but still in the wrong place at the wrong time..

    moral of the story - stay at home


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Avoid Irish bars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Drunk Irish Dickheads


    NEWSFLASH: DRINK MAKES PEOPLE TOTAL ASSHOLES


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Murphyt


    Never ever blame the drink. I love drink, come 4 o'Clock today and I will be in the pub, and by 7 I will be throwing bog rolls over cubicle doors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Hephaestus wrote: »
    So I'm out with a few mates tonight having a few pints in an Irish bar we frequent.

    I'm washing my hands after having a slash when a fella from Dublin starts accusing me of throwing bog roll over the cubicle in which he is having a slash.

    He wont take my word for it that I didn't throw bog roll over the cubicle & decides to create a huge scene in the middle of the bar which creates much embarrassment on my behalf as I Know many of the people in the bar.

    It gets to the point where I tell him to either funk off or take it outside & he backs down & disappears.

    So me & my mates (who are well travelled) start discussing, what is it about Irish fella's in particular that we seem so insecure that we tend to start Drunkin fights for no particular reason. I've never had any sh!te to deal with on my travels from a person from another country but I have had 1 or 2 incidents with fellow Irish men.

    So what's the story lads?

    So you're well travelled and have only had 1 or 2 incidents yet you come out with:
    what is it about Irish fella's in particular that we seem so insecure that we tend to start Drunkin fights for no particular reason.

    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    Its not drnks fault! The guy was probably an asshole to begin with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    f1dan wrote: »
    What do seals have to do with drunken arguing?

    A baby seal walks into a club...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    loobylou wrote: »
    A baby seal walks into a club...

    ......Baby seals cant walk..:cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    ......Baby seals cant walk..:cool:

    Rolls?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Drunk Irish Dickheads


    NEWSFLASH: DRINK MAKES SOME PEOPLE TOTAL ASSHOLES
    FYP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    Then she comes up and accuses me of stealing her purse, then I start hitting her with this purse I found


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭gerry28


    Agricola wrote: »
    Yeah, what the hell is with lads who, even if a whole row of urinals are free, still go into the cubicle and loudly lock the door behind em. I have a friend who always does this. He did grow up with 6 sisters and no brothers. I think hes fúckin scarred!

    I was in a pub toilet last saturday night at the urinals when this gulpin came in... stood up at the urinal flung open the belt, loud fart, loud burp, big sigh, takin up far too much space and then started slashing perpendicular to the metal urinal.

    Piss splashed back of the urinal on to my trousers :mad: - whats with this big extra macho show.

    All this macho, i'm not insecure rubbish you see from time to time in mens toilets.

    Cubicle is a much better idea if you don't want to stink of someone elses urine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Murphyt


    I would use the cubicle myself if it was free, urinals can be a bit manky, also it comes down to the shake or whipe debate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,987 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Some clown threw bog roll over a cubicle at him. He was pished.....and picked on the nearest option. I can see why he was annoyed.

    Irish people drink a lot, thats the problem. Also, we tend not to take crap from anyone.

    Also, being well traveled does not give anyone a better understanding of anything, apart from airports.
    Also, and this really pisses me off about all these "well traveled people".
    What the fcuk were you doing in an Irish bar.
    If drunk Irish people annoy you so much when abroad, I would think avoiding Irish Bars is the first thing you well traveled people should do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    So you were ready to start a fight with him over a simple misunderstanding, but HE is the drunken dickhead?:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭InKonspikuou2


    You must not be that well traveled if Irish lads are topping the list for people starting fights. Never come across israeli's or english lads no?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    jogoeire wrote: »
    So you asked the guy to fight and he said no? The thug!

    OP your the person in the bar who asked him to have a fight and yet your complaining about him?
    Very confusing stuff this is


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    ......Baby seals cant walk..:cool:

    Not after they meet my club anyway!!! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭RandolphEsq


    Cabaal wrote: »
    OP your the person in the bar who asked him to have a fight and yet your complaining about him?
    Very confusing stuff this is

    Well like, he was being unreasonably heckled by the guy from the bathroom across the floor back to his mates. The drunken buffoon would not listen to his explanation so to shake this parasite off what other option is there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    Why is it every night without fail ,in the mens toilets there is always some asshole who comes in and says

    "So? is this where were all the big knobs hang out?":confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Jet Black


    pebbles21 wrote: »
    Why is it every night without fail ,in the mens toilets there is always some asshole who comes in and says

    "So? is this where were all the big knobs hang out?":confused:

    because it get's funnier everytime:-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭zeppe


    Northern Europeans are all f**kin nutjobs with drink. Fact. Genetics and the long winters.
    Irish, English, Scandinavians, Germans, Dutch. We're all the same lads. Swedes I've noticed in particular when I was there, all ages, just go insane with drink.

    Italy, Spain, Portugal and France just dont seem to have the same drinking mentality as we do. Much more civilised, although the pubs are boring:D

    So did you throw the bog roll or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    Well like, he was being unreasonably heckled by the guy from the bathroom across the floor back to his mates. The drunken buffoon would not listen to his explanation so to shake this parasite off what other option is there?

    He could have tried, I dunno, not trying to start a fight?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Cabaal wrote: »
    OP your the person in the bar who asked him to have a fight and yet your complaining about him?
    Very confusing stuff this is


    Only thing confusing to me is why people are twisting the OP's words.

    There was a threat that this little incident was going to elevate itself to a brawl in the toilet, the OP obviously felt this threat and offered to take things outside - good call IMO.

    Well done OP, I'd have taken the same course of action myself in the hope that it defuses the situation, this time your bluff worked. Good call again.

    As regards Irish people being dickheads when drunk, in my experience that goes across the board and know's no boundaries or borders.

    But if I was to put it down to experience I'd say sharing first spot for trouble, drunk or sober are the Spanish or Italians.

    Followed closely (in recent years) by Russians, Poles, Lithuanians etc - if you get trouble from these its gonna be serious (the Spanish & Italians are saps by comparision).

    Way down the league would be the English & Irish, and in over 15yrs doing door work I can't remember one incident with an American.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    The general discourse that reverberates from the drunken Gallic individual personifies the undercurrent lack of present day external moralistic action mechanism's that is conducive to the mental well-being of the said agreevied mortal.
    With such an absence to bring forth and exhaust one naturalist awarded ability and possible aggressive tendencies, the onset of the application of destructive intoxication is further conducive to the ill timed and probably inappropriate natural action to wrongly seen confrontation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Over analysis can lead to paralysis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Biggins wrote: »
    The general discourse that reverberates from the drunken Gallic individual personifies the undercurrent lack of present day external moralistic action mechanism's that is conducive to the mental well-being of the said agreevied mortal.
    With such an absence to bring forth and exhaust one naturalist awarded ability and possible aggressive tendencies, the onset of the application of destructive intoxication is further conducive to the ill timed and probably inappropriate natural action to wrongly seen confrontation.

    Oh my dyslexia, it hurts :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Biggins wrote: »
    The general discourse that reverberates from the drunken Gallic individual personifies the undercurrent lack of present day external moralistic action mechanism's that is conducive to the mental well-being of the said agreevied mortal.
    With such an absence to bring forth and exhaust one naturalist awarded ability and possible aggressive tendencies, the onset of the application of destructive intoxication is further conducive to the ill timed and probably inappropriate natural action to wrongly seen confrontation.

    To be honest I'd prefer a punch to reading that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Well done OP, I'd have taken the same course of action myself in the hope that it defuses the situation, this time your bluff worked

    I don't know!! I am fairly well traveled, but unlike the OP I don't usually go to Irish bars. In a different country, different laws, different cops, dodgy hospitals, different cultures. You just don't know what's going to happen. Some of the places I have been, you just don't want to end up in prison or hospital or paying massive bribes. Happened to a guy I met in Na Trang over a row in a pub. I tend to avoid all confrontation, keep the head down, get out of the spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Love the generalisation OP.

    As a barman of many years in several Irish owned and operated pubs/bars and taverns in Chicago, I have found that there as many 'Irish' drunken dickheads as any other nationality, including American, Canadian, Polish, Irish, Mexican etc........

    You tend to see the 'pack mentality' more than anything else with the said 'dickheads'. Very rarely will you see the 'lone wolf' dickhead' unless he there is something else going on beneath the surface.

    Some people just know when they could use a good ass whoopin' and they tend to go out and look for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    In future, tidy up after yourself when you use a public toilet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Biggins wrote: »
    The general discourse that reverberates from the drunken Gallic individual personifies the undercurrent lack of present day external moralistic action mechanism's that is conducive to the mental well-being of the said agreevied mortal.
    With such an absence to bring forth and exhaust one naturalist awarded ability and possible aggressive tendencies, the onset of the application of destructive intoxication is further conducive to the ill timed and probably inappropriate natural action to wrongly seen confrontation.
    Oh my dyslexia, it hurts :o
    mikom wrote: »
    To be honest I'd prefer a punch to reading that.

    :pac:
    ...but can ye not agree to look and see that the notion that a current lack of aggressive outlets and inducive movements can lead to a negative outcome?
    The proposition that as early man was pre-existing as the hunter/gatherer and even based at genetic level, that part aggressive pre-condition might still be present and need external outlets in the present day?
    Further more, it might be advantageous to assume this could be a primordial reason for many actions of Cro-magnon man and his further offspring, to bring about the advance of warring tendencies and the indulgency to exhaust such abilities?

    Just wondering, its just a simple thought? :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    Biggins wrote: »
    :pac:
    ...but can ye not agree to look and see that the notion that a current lack of aggressive outlets and inducive movements can lead to a negative outcome?
    The proposition that as early man was pre-existing as the hunter/gatherer and even based at genetic level, that part aggressive pre-condition might still be present and need external outlets in the present day?
    Further more, it might be advantageous to assume this could be a primordial reason for many actions of Cro-magnon man and his further offspring, to bring about the advance of warring tendencies and the indulgency to exhaust such abilities?

    Just wondering, its just a simple thought? :o

    I would agree with the sentiment of your post esp. in terms of the '8 circuit theory of human consciousness' as devised by Timothy Leary and best expounded upon by Robert Anton Wilson in 'Prometheus Rising'.
    This type of behaviour falls in with the 2nd circuit ,the 'anal-emotional-territorial circuit',part of our primitive evolution,which we develop as toddlers and a trigger for which is alcohol.

    A brief,if simplistic, synopsis of the 2nd circuit http://theuniverseas.com/emotional-territorial


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    wudangclan wrote: »
    I reckon it's all in the numbers.
    800 years,1 in 4 etc.
    We're just a bit messed up.
    I agree, It was the disturbing repressed seething anger at our historically oppressed nation. Four fifths of a millenium of stiffled education, freedom of choice or will and attempted stunted mass emotional growth. And the notion of 1 in 4 that caused the OP to launch a roll of arse wipe over a partition at a fellow countryman. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    I agree, It was the disturbing repressed seething anger at our historically oppressed nation. Four fifths of a millenium of stiffled education, freedom of choice or will and attempted stunted mass emotional growth. And the notion of 1 in 4 that caused the OP to launch a roll of arse wipe over a partition at a fellow countryman. :rolleyes:

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Biggins wrote: »
    :pac:
    ...but can ye not agree to look and see that the notion that a current lack of aggressive outlets and inducive movements can lead to a negative outcome?
    The proposition that as early man was pre-existing as the hunter/gatherer and even based at genetic level, that part aggressive pre-condition might still be present and need external outlets in the present day?
    Further more, it might be advantageous to assume this could be a primordial reason for many actions of Cro-magnon man and his further offspring, to bring about the advance of warring tendencies and the indulgency to exhaust such abilities?

    Just wondering, its just a simple thought? :o

    Biggins, I hear ya....... it's just the phrasing.
    The type of phrasing which if used in a pub can cause you to get battered.
    Have you ever seen Withnail?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭DamienH


    "I'll murder the pair of ye's!" Would of went down well in this situation, Withnail and I solves everything.... now pass me that deep heat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Look horse, throwing a bog roll over the cube door when someone was taking a piss is ghey man.

    If you want to annoy some gimp in the cube and you are a bit "toasted" yourself all you do is bring in your glass, take a piss in it and hammer it off the ceiling over the cube door.

    Out and halfway through your next drink before the "cubee" recovers..:cool:


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