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Leap Year
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13-11-2009 11:49am#1The tradition of women proposing on 29th of February in Ireland.
Go forth and cringe a bit.... (Driving from Wales to Dublin?) :rolleyes:
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Sticky Romance wrote: »Is that Georgie Burges!!? The dirty little begger
yes i knew he looked familiar
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Jimmy Bennett wrote: »Somebody help me decide. Do i picket this racist romantic comedy or do I get horribly drunk and see it...
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Deleted User wrote: »Personally I thought it wasn't all that bad, I had to review it awhile back and rather than attack it for it's faults
LMAO
Say's the guy who spent two whole months picking the Twilight: New Moon to shreads :rolleyes:Deleted User wrote: »I looked at the film from the perspective of it's target audience.
Which was exactly the argument that everyone put to you about Twilight but you were having none of it.Deleted User wrote: »critics who review every film from their viewpoint forgetting that some films just aren't made for them.
You should take your own advice Darko. From anyone else I would say they had a point but coming from you that is hilarious, truly.
Your post just made my day :pac:0 -
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Sure it's God awful, but God knows our tourism industry badly needs a boost right now, and if that boost comes in the form of naive, young, husband hungry hotties that go weak at the knees for a bit of brogue... Ah sure bring 'em on, and top o' the mornin' to ye ladies!
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norrie rugger wrote: »There is a difference for attacking a movie, for not being targeted at you Vs living up to a sterotype
I have not seen it butI do get the impression (from official trailers) that it is a bit diddly begorrah top of the morning. Why did she not just fly out of Kerry Airport or Cork? Hell why did she not get the train?
Again, as I have not seen it, I may be doing a great disservice here.
It's full of cliches but that's exactly what the American audiences want. THey don't want a realistic depiction of Ireland, it would be far to depressing for them.OutlawPete wrote: »LMAO
Say's the guy who spent two whole months picking the Twilight: New Moon to shreads :rolleyes:
Which was exactly the argument that everyone put to you about Twilight but you were having none of it.
Actually if you go back you'll find that I was attacking the film/books due to their content being rather inappropriate for the age group it was aimed at.
The piss poor acting and unoriginal plot were also an area of annoyance but could have easily been forgiven had the film been in any ways entertaining on a so bad it's good level.
Also you'll find that unlike most people here attacking Leap Year I at least read/watched New Moon.OutlawPete wrote: »You should take your own advice Darko. From anyone else I would say they had a point but coming from you that is hilarious, truly.
If you knew anything about me or the numerous publications for which I have written you would find that I am continuously respected for the manner in which I review films, games and music. I will not write off a something before watching it and then will take it in relation to it's target audience.OutlawPete wrote: »Your post just made my day :pac:
Glad I made your day, your posts continuously give me a good chuckle.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »It's full of cliches but that's exactly what the American audiences want.
The Twilight audience when I went sure looked happy to me and from reading their comments online, they were thrilled to pieces to with the movie.
So why does your 'exactly what that particular audience wanted' not apply to Twilight.Deleted User wrote: »THey don't want a realistic depiction of Ireland, it would be far to depressing for them.
Nonsense, not all Americans as dumb as you seem to think.
There have been many films were Ireland was realistically portrayed that received rave reviews from America that didn't have not one "To be sure, to be sure.." or a "Be gorra be gosh.." in sight.
My Left Foot, Angela's Ashes, Dancing at Lughnasa, The Field, The Magdelene Sisters, Educating Rita etc etc
So don't stick up for this piece of crap as if somehow the Ireland protrayed in Far and Away, Leap Year and Darby O Fcuking Gill is all they are willing to accept as it is simple just not true.Deleted User wrote: »Actually if you go back you'll find that I was attacking the film/books due to their content being rather inappropriate for the age group it was aimed at.
I don't need to go back Darko, it's quite clear in my mind. It tends to stick in your head when someone labels harmless Teen Vampire tales as somehow been a Paedo's paradise .Deleted User wrote: »The piss poor acting and unoriginal plot were also an area of annoyance but could have easily been forgiven had the film been in any ways entertaining on a so bad it's good level.
For the last time, the movie was Cheeeeeeeeese on a stick, nobody was saying it should of received Oscars for the dramatic acting on display.Deleted User wrote: »Also you'll find that unlike most people here attacking Leap Year I at least read/watched New Moon.
You have a point there but in fairness there is enough tripe in the trailer alone to warrant the criticism it is receiving, without anyone even needing to see the "movie". I would prepare yourself for around two or three weeks of similar comments if I were you.
Looking forward to reading your replies in defense of this sh*te tbh ..
I do recommend people go for the laugh though, it is kind of entertaining to see the pub scene alone with the drunk old "to be sure.." men.Deleted User wrote: »If you knew anything about me or the numerous publications for which I have written you would find that I am continuously respected for the manner in which I review films, games and music.
Perhaps they forgive you your movie reviews cause your music and gaming reviews are so good, no idea. Although from what your opinions on Glen Hansard are, I doubt they are too far removed from your movie reviews.
From memory, they were quite similar in certain areas, I'll say no more on that.Deleted User wrote: »Glad I made your day, your posts continuously give me a good chuckle.
The difference being, my posts are worded in such a way as to hopefully invoke a 'chuckle' from the reader, yours on the other hand are not
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OutlawPete wrote: »The Twilight audience when I went sure looked happy to me and from reading their comments online, they were thrilled to pieces to with the movie.
So why does your 'exactly what that particular audience wanted' not apply to Twilight.
I never said they weren't allowed to enjoy it, I merely pointed out that much of the content was far from appropriate. You can't look at the Twilight and Leap Year in the same way, Twilight is like a cult these days so expecting an unbiased review from a fan isn't going to happen. All the fans seemed in awe of it with none expressing any disappointment like we saw with the Harry Potter film.OutlawPete wrote: »Nonsense, not all Americans as dumb as you seem to think.
There have been many films were Ireland was realistically portrayed that received rave reviews from America that didn't have not one "To be sure, to be sure.." or a "Be gorra be gosh.." in sight.
My Left Foot, Angela's Ashes, Dancing at Lughnasa, The Field, The Magdelene Sisters, Educating Rita etc etc
So don't stick up for this piece of crap as if somehow the Ireland protrayed in Far and Away, Leap Year and Darby O Fcuking Gill is all they are willing to accept as it is simple just not true.
No one is saying that all Americans are stupid. The American audience for Leap Year is not the same audience that would go see My Left Foot, etc.
They are paying to see a jovial rom com in which traditional Irish cliches are alive and well. Like the upcoming Holy Water, Leap Year is an easy to digest, throw away film which is largely forgotten by the time the credits roll. Leap Year is pure escapism, it's fluff of the highest order. No one buying tickets is expecting a socially realistic depiction of modern Ireland.
Were Leap Year to be directed by Mike Leigh then I would expect a drastically different film from the one we go.OutlawPete wrote: »I don't need to go back Darko, it's quite clear in my mind. It tends to stick in your head when someone labels harmless Teen Vampire tales as somehow been a Paedo's paradise .
Harmless it may be for adult audiences but when it's aimed at 12 year olds it's a different matter. The content in the books/films is widely inappropriate for 12 year old girls, that is unless you believe that reading about grown men falling in love with new borns is okay.
The pedophile comments were to do with the last book in the series which has some deeply disturbing content which even many older fans questioned. The Jacob storyline ends in a rather disturbing manner and I have my doubts that it will be depicted in the film as it is in the book.OutlawPete wrote: »For the last time, the movie was Cheeeeeeeeese on a stick, nobody was saying it should of received Oscars for the dramatic acting on display.
Oscar worthy no, but competent acting would have been nice. Then again you work with what you're given, even some of the cast have criticised the source material for being crap.OutlawPete wrote: »You have a point there but in fairness their is enough tripe in the trailer alone to warrant criticism it is receiving without anyone even having to see it.
I do recommend people go for the laugh though, it is kind of entertaining to see the pub scene alone with the drunk old "to be sure.." men.
Perhaps then we should judge all films on the trailer then, there have been many great films which had dreadful trailers and vice verse. I rarely watch trailers these days as like reviews they are often full of spoilers which can ruin the cinema going experience.OutlawPete wrote: »Perhaps they forgive you your movie reviews cause your music and gaming reviews are so good, no idea. Although from what your opinions on Glen Hansard are, I doubt they are too far removed from your movie reviews.
From memory, they were quite similar in certain areas, I'll say no more on that.
Ah the typical Irish opinion.l If you don't agree with me or dislike Irish produce it''s because you're a begrudger. You don't like Bono, well then it's because you resent his fame. This mentality that just because were Irish we can't dislike Irish music and films baffles me.
I don't like Hanasard as either a musician or a person and having met him I am allowed to form an opinion of him which alongside stories I've been told make for a less than positive one. He could be the nicest guy who ever lived but I have yet to see it.
That said I will admit that some of the Frames stuff can be fantastic as evident by it's use in series one of Life..OutlawPete wrote: »The difference being, my posts are worded in such a way as to hopefully invoke a 'chuckle' from the reader, yours on the other hand are not
I'm not going dragging this off topic anymore suffice to say that judging anything before you watch/read/listen ect to it is a bit unfair. If you dislike a film fine but don't start saying how dreadful it is till you at least give it a chance. Never judge a book by it's cover and all that.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »I never said they weren't allowed to enjoy it, I merely pointed out that much of the content was far from appropriate.
Yes you did, you implied continuously that they were stupid for enjoying it.Deleted User wrote: »You can't look at the Twilight and Leap Year in the same way
Yes I can, I see on average, a dozen movies in the cinema each week and I judge each on what happens on the screen and fcuk all else. You on the other hand go in with baggage and an obvious agenda.Deleted User wrote: »All the fans seemed in awe of it with none expressing any disappointment like we saw with the Harry Potter film.
Harry Potter was sh*te.
When I seen the last one in Screen 17 in Cineworld the kids were all jumping up and down, chatting, running in and out, you could tell it was boring them to tears.
Seen Twilight New Moon twice and the audiences were riveted to the screen throughoutDeleted User wrote: »No one is saying that all Americans are stupid. The American audience for Leap Year is not the same audience that would go see My Left Foot, etc.
More nonsense, movie going audiences are movie going audiences. People will go to see what's on offer and if all they have is that junk, then they will go.
I any case, why are you so understanding this fictional audience and yet so hard on Twilight's?Deleted User wrote: »throw away film which is largely forgotten by the time the credits roll. Leap Year is pure escapism, it's fluff of the highest order. No one buying tickets is expecting a socially realistic depiction of modern Ireland.
How do you know what people want or expect?
Why could this movie not possibly have been as good as When Harry Met Sally? Just cause it's a rom-com they should expect garbage?Deleted User wrote: »Were Leap Year to be directed by Mike Leigh then I would expect a drastically different film from the one we go.
Eh, so would eveyone. So what, we should expect this bulls*it 'Be Gorra, Be Gosh' cause Mike Leigh didn't direct it?? Come on ffs.Deleted User wrote: »Oscar worthy no, but competent acting would have been nice.
Why can't you say that about Leap Year??
I'm amazed that you can't see how hypocritical you're being.Deleted User wrote: »Perhaps then we should judge all films on the trailer then
This is why discussing anything with you Darko can be infuriating.
I said there was enough "tripe in the trailer to warrant criticism". I did NOT say nor imply that people should judge a movie on a trailer. Cop on, I made an obvious point as the Trailer is full of stereotypical scenes and I have no issue with anyone saying as much.Deleted User wrote: »I rarely watch trailers these days as like reviews they are often full of spoilers which can ruin the cinema going experience.
One thing we agree on so
I haven't seen a movie Trailer in around 12 years or so, sometimes they are impossible to avoid but it improves movies enjoyment no-end when you can watch a film clean without having seen all it's best bits condensed down to a three minute movie killing clip.
I take my MP3 player with to the flicks without fail for that very reason.Deleted User wrote: »Ah the typical Irish opinion.l If you don't agree with me or dislike Irish produce it''s because you're a begrudger.
Who said you were a "bregrudger"? You hallucinating there Darko?Deleted User wrote: »I don't like Hanasard as either a musician
And that is why I said I don't know anything about your Music reviews but if your opinion of Glen was anything to go by, they wouldn't be too far removed from you movie reviews.
See, no accusation of "Begrudgery" at all, just pointing out that because your don't think Glen is a good musician, it would pretty much be a good pointer that your wrong in music reviews as well as you Movie onesDeleted User wrote: »If you dislike a film fine but don't start saying how dreadful it is till you at least give it a chance. Never judge a book by it's cover and all that.
I have seen it Darko, I was the one who bumped the thread
Off to see The Roaring Twenties now, if anyone speaks during the screening, they are getting shot.
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OutlawPete wrote: »Yes you did, you implied continuously that they were stupid for enjoying it.
And perhaps they are stupid for enjoying it. It's a pretty poor film on all accounts. Generally fans are the harshest critics but not so in the case of Twilight. They're prepared to accept what ever they get no matter how poor it is.OutlawPete wrote: »Yes I can, I see on average, a dozen movies in the cinema each week and I judge each on what happens on the screen and fcuk all else. You on the other hand go in with baggage and an obvious agenda.
What agenda? I watch 3-4 films a day and view them on their own merits. My only agenda when going to see a film is whether or not I think I will enjoy it. I view each film independently of others and will give a second viewing to pretty much every film I see no matter how much I hated it first time around. Hell I even gave White Chicks a rewatch jsut to see if it was as bad as I had initially thought. It was.OutlawPete wrote: »Harry Potter was sh*te.
When I seen the last one in Screen 17 in Cineworld the kids were all jumping up and down, chatting, running in and out, you could tell it was boring them to tears.
Seen Twilight New Moon twice and the audiences were riveted to the screen throughout
Funny then that the Potter films receive positive critic praise and have staying power, something which the Twilight franchise lacks.OutlawPete wrote: »YMore nonsense, movie going audiences are movie going audiences. People will go to see what's on offer and if all they have is that junk, then they will go.
I any case, why are you so understanding this fictional audience and yet so hard on Twilight's?
That's complete crap. The audience for each film is drastically different depending on what sort of film is on. The average cinema goer will not pay go to see Crazy Heart then head to see Leap Year the next night. Those who have an unlimited card may but given how drastically different films you can expect a different audience at each film.OutlawPete wrote: »How do you know what people want or expect?
Why could this movie not possibly have been as good as When Harry Met Sally? Just cause it's a rom-com they should expect garbage?
Are you saying that people expected something more than escapist fluff from the film? No on said all rom-coms were garbage, there are some damn fine rom-coms which appeal across a wide spectrum of cinema, Leap Year is not one of them. It is however junk food for the brain, easily digested and quickly forgotten.OutlawPete wrote: »Eh, so would eveyone. So what, we should expect this bulls*it 'Be Gorra, Be Gosh' cause Mike Leigh didn't direct it?? Come on ffs.
Again you miss the point, something you seem to do on a regular basis. I don't see a problem with cliched views of Ireland, it's what people were expecting from the film. No one went into Leap Year expecting a well written realistic depiction of Ireland. Had it been directed by Jim Sheridan, Neil Jordan or an Irish director then we would expect something more realistic.
As it stands Leap Year brought a lot of revenue to Ireland and provided a number of jobs to people in the industry who were and continue to struggle.OutlawPete wrote: »Why can't you say that about Leap Year??
I'm amazed that you can't see how hypocritical you're being.
The acting in Leap Year is poor, I never said it wasn't. But as poor as it is, it's nowhere near as poor as that found in Twilight.OutlawPete wrote: »This is why discussing anything with you Darko can be infuriating.
I said there was enough "tripe in the trailer to warrant criticism". I did NOT say nor imply that people should judge a movie on a trailer. Cop on, I made an obvious point as the Trailer is full of stereotypical scenes and I have no issue with anyone saying as much.
Wasn't aimed as an attack on you , I was just pointing out that most people posting about how bad the film is have only seen the trailer. To judge the film or any film on the basis of a trailer is a mistake.OutlawPete wrote: »Who said you were a "bregrudger"? You hallucinating there Darko?
And that is why I said I don't know anything about your Music reviews but if your opinion of Glen was anything to go by, they wouldn't be too far removed from you movie reviews.
See, no accusation of "Begrudgery" at all, just pointing out that because your don't think Glen is a good musician, it would pretty much be a good pointer that your wrong in music reviews as well as you Movie ones
I never said anyone called me a begrudger in this thread, just it's so often wheeled out to attack anyone who dislikes anything Irish. Hell I heard it used to describe me last week when I said Brothers was nothing more than a movie of the week. Next thing I know I have 10 people accusing me of being nothing but a Irish begrudger.
Take a look at any thread on boards where someone announces a dislike of Bono and you'll find a dozen or so people calling begrudger. From what you wrote up there you appear to think that because I don't agree with your opinion then it makes me wrong? "just pointing out that because your don't think Glen is a good musician, it would pretty much be a good pointer that your wrong in music reviews"OutlawPete wrote: »I have seen it Darko, I was the one who bumped the thread
Again not something aimed directly at you, more so aimed at the people who have yet to see the film yet have formed opinions of it.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »I never said they weren't allowed to enjoy itDeleted User wrote: »perhaps they are stupid for enjoying it.
"Allowed" to enjoy it, but "stupid" if they do??
Hhmmmm, sounds like Catch22 for the viewer to me according to Darko's rules.Deleted User wrote: »What agenda? I watch 3-4 films a day ..
Tell you what, we both take a picture of our ***** and PM them to Admin and let them decide who wins, yeah? :rolleyes:Deleted User wrote: »Funny then that the Potter films receive positive critic praise and have staying power, something which the Twilight franchise lacks.
Jonathon Ross gave the last on a bad review, I don't really pay much attention to critics as I don't read reviews at all. I'll read six month old Movie Mags for fun sometimes but they ruin so many movies, I just stay away from the.
After I see a movie I will go on YouTube and watch some reviews of it then just to see if anyone is as a good a judge as me, they usually aren'tDeleted User wrote: »The average cinema goer will not pay go to see Crazy Heart then head to see Leap Year the next night.
Everyone I know has seen both or will see both. Them days are gone, a few people are like still, like some couples etc, but the majority of the regular cinema going audience usually see most of the big movies.
Pointless arguing about this, set up a Poll on somewhere like After Hours, where there is a good cross section of the cinema going public and see if they stick to movie genres who view pretty much most movies that they show and guarantee you that you are way off.Deleted User wrote: »Are you saying that people expected something more than escapist fluff from the film?
Yes, we did, my mates did, everyone I no said they expected that the days of "Be Gorra Be Gosh" were gone. EVERYONE I know that has seen it said they were gobsmacked at how BLATANT the stereotypical cliche dialogue was, EVERYONE! It's laughable how deplorable the 'film' was.Deleted User wrote: »It is however junk food for the brain, easily digested and quickly forgotten.
Your insulting those movies (if that's possible) by lumping this crap in with them. I quite enjoy those fluffy movies like The Proposal for instance. That had a story though at least some clever dialogue, Leap Year has none of that.Deleted User wrote: »You're missing the Point .. <tripe snipped> I don't see a problem with cliched views of Ireland, it's what people were expecting from the film.
Then YOU'RE missing the point.
Who are YOU to say what people DO and DO NOT expect??
WHY would they expect cliche ridden sh*te? Why????
They don't ALWAYS get it as I pointed out, so why are they expecting it? :rolleyes:Deleted User wrote: »No one went into Leap Year expecting a well written realistic depiction of Ireland. Had it been directed by Jim Sheridan, Neil Jordan or an Irish director then we would expect something more realistic.
Your're judging the film with baggage Darko, most American audiences wouldn't be thinking about it not being directed by Neil Jordan. they just see a movie about a woman who follows her boyfriend to Ireland.
Just becuase YOU say they are expecting 'cliched ridden crap' - doesn't make it so!!Deleted User wrote: »As it stands Leap Year brought a lot of revenue to Ireland and provided a number of jobs to people in the industry who were and continue to struggle.
Got fcuk all to do with reviewing a movie. I don't care if they donated all the money an Irish orphanage run by leprechauns, the movie is a dire piece of horse manure.Deleted User wrote: »I never said anyone called me a begrudger in this thread
Are you for real??
What exactly are you implying with this sentence then:Deleted User wrote: »Ah the typical Irish opinion.l If you don't agree with me or dislike Irish produce it''s because you're a begrudger.
If this isn't saying that you were being labeled a "Begrudger" then I don't know what is.Deleted User wrote: »Take a look at any thread on boards where someone announces a dislike of Bono and you'll find a dozen or so people calling begrudger.
If people do that to you in "OTHER THREADS" - then keep that reply for "OTHER THREADS", why throw the implication at me?0 -
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