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tallaghtoutlaws

Other than Lucky and Neill3030 (who do a top job) we dont seem to get active mods interested in the board they are modding. Lucky and Neill cant be on all the time and there are fair few guys on here who are who in my opinion who should get a crack at keeping our board clean. Other topics have 4 or 5 mods who are actually interested in the topic and I cant see why we shouldn't what you think boys?

Im going to start off by throwing my candidates out there

Chucky the tree
Eagle Eye
Karluss
jdivision
Dodge

Maybe if we get a fairly decent discussion going on this we can get more active mods on board to help lucky and neill and we can send this thread to the powers that be.

LuckyLloyd

Do you feel the forum is inadequately moderated at present? Not meaning to be aggressive by asking that. Would just be interested in hearing why you think we need more hands on deck. I'm not necessarily against the idea, just a little surprised as I felt we were doing fine.

tallaghtoutlaws

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Do you feel the forum is inadequately moderated at present? Not meaning to be aggressive by asking that. Would just be interested in hearing why you think we need more hands on deck. I'm not necessarily against the idea, just a little surprised as I felt we were doing fine.

Compared to other boards yes I do. This board has gained alot more traffic than the last 12 months and right now we have only really you Moderating. Neill I know is doing his best to do it when he can but I know he is busy with College. I feel we need another dedicated Mod to this board. Someone who spends a lot of time in here. There is times that it takes a couple of days for trolls to be removed or threads merged or deleted. It can't harm the board in the long run to move someone in as a mod. This is taking nothing away from you and Neill3030 and the other 2 guys but other boards have dedicated mods I cant see any reason why this one shouldn't either.

LuckyLloyd

Okay. Well, we'll take comments on anything related to moderation of the forum over the next couple of days in this thread. And see where we are then.

The floor is open folks!

Chucky the tree

1st on the list, what have you been smoking tonight tallaght? :pac:

Mr. Guappa

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Okay. Well, we'll take comments on anything related to moderation of the forum over the next couple of days in this thread. And see where we are then.

The floor is open folks!

I don't see a problem with how this board is moderated at the moment. Its not so busy that similar threads ever take over the place and trolling seems fairly minimal as far as I can see. Steady as she goes I say!!

tallaghtoutlaws

Chucky the tree wrote: »

1st on the list, what have you been smoking tonight tallaght? :pac:

Well the list is in no particular order But to be honest as much as me and you have had our scrapes I respect alot of what you post whether it shows or not. As well as that you like the others are on the board as much as me and I think you are as good a candidate as any on here to keep out the trolls and clean up stupid threads and merge threads where necessary etc etc

tallaghtoutlaws

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

I don't see a problem with how this board is moderated at the moment. Its not so busy that similar threads ever take over the place and trolling seems fairly minimal as far as I can see. Steady as she goes I say!!

To be honest Mr. Guappa how often do you visit the thread? There are times that it takes a couple of days for clean ups to happen. And lately a lot of threads could have been merged to stop cluttering it up etc etc Its not just trolling that affects the boards there has been a lot of unnecessary posts and threads pop up

Chanandler Bong

As far as I'm concerned, any frequent poster (i.e. any of tallght's list, or tallaght himself) would be fine, as there arnt too many big problems, just minor ones which could be easily dealt with.

Mr. Guappa

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

To be honest Mr. Guappa how often do you visit the thread? There are times that it takes a couple of days for clean ups to happen. And lately a lot of threads could have been merged to stop cluttering it up etc etc Its not just trolling that affects the boards there has been a lot of unnecessary posts and threads pop up

I normally check in every day but probably only post 2-3 times per week. I just felt the board was fine as it is but obviously I'm not here as often as others, I guess we will see in a day or two how everyone else feels.

Neil3030

Hi Guys,

I'll be the first to admit that I don't pay near as much attention to this board as is needed, as the time requirements that have arisen in accordance with the boards increase in activity are surplus to what I can afford at present.

I have, however, made several attempts to have an additional mod empowered for this board to no avail, going back as far as August when I first realised I wouldn't be up to the task.

That said, I don't feel as if the board has descended into any form of dissaray or mayhem that is beyond reproach, most posters here have good knowledge of the game mixed with a healthy dose of passion. This is an American Football board after all, so I wouldn't expect people to be timid and courteous all the time!

Nonetheless, there have been occasions where trolls, spammers and flamers have gone unrecorded by myself and again I hold my hand up and admit this is something I will require extra assistance with.

Lloyd suggested we leave this open until Monday and see how the discussion fairs out.

All the best until then,

Neil.

Si Conando

I read this forum everyday, and as far as i can see its modded fine. Tallaght, youve attempted some backseat modding as it is, with people discussing madden telling them to go to the games section, and with another poster telling him to go to the betting forum when looking for peoples opinion on which way to bet on a game. If these are the threads that would be deleted or moved, should another mod be added, id prefer to leave the board as it is now

kev_s88

theres no problems at all at the moment with the way the modding is going...i think the lads are doing a bang up job. but as Neil said he cant be here as much as he'd like to be and it might just be a good idea to have a much more regular visitor and poster who can have the power to merge threads, or "fix" spammers... and id be happy for any of the 5 mentioned by tallaght to get the job (if it comes about)

eagle eye

But Madden does belong in the games section in fairness. Another thing that used to annoy me but thankfully its stopped this year is people talking about fantasy football in the weekly games thread.

Also there have been times where spam has been posted here and not looked after for at least a day if not longer.

I think one of the more regular posters as a moderator could only be a good thing. Tallaght would do a good job imo.

Sea Devils

I don't see a problem in having new mods at all especially any of the aftermentioned posters.

jdivision

In favour of a new mod but have no interest in being one, mainly because half the time I'm on boards I'm drunk (see after hours thread I left last night)

Chucky the tree

Making me blush now Tallaghtouts. :pac: I'd have no problem with any of the others listed and Tallght to be mod, even a couple of others would be good.

Max Power1

IMO it takes 2 days some times for moderatinga activities to happen (as others have said earlier). Im not on here every day but 4-5 days a week and would like to think I know how this forum works. We all know the regular posters in here (Tallaght, Sea Devils, Eagle Eye, Chucky etc) so lets put one of them forward if interested

Chanandler Bong

Well does anyone actually want to do it?

tallaghtoutlaws

Chanandler Bong wrote: »

Well does anyone actually want to do it?

Well other than jdivision no one else suggested has said no

Sea Devils

Max Power1 wrote: »

. We all know the regular posters in here (Tallaght, Sea Devils, Eagle Eye, Chucky etc) so lets put one of them forward if interested

Thanks for the nomination but I wouldn't be interested. Like I said any of the posters mentioned, i'd have no problems with although my personal favourites would be Tallaght or Eagle Eye.

davyjose

I was nearly going to post the exact same thread last week, to be honest. Nice one Tallaght.

I'm not too impressed with some of the posting that goes on.

One thing I will say though (and maybe the thing that stopped me posting the thread), is that you can really get into it sometimes. A lot of fora are sanitised to the point where you can hardly say boo. On here, you can kind of get into it a little bit of a row. And tbh, everyone usually ends up with no hard feelings (certainly not the ones I've disagreed with).

To that end, if there was a new mod, I'd throw my hat into Tallaghtoutlaws camp. Cos he knows how to have a good row knows the forum (& Sport) very well

tallaghtoutlaws

davyjose wrote: »

I was nearly going to post the exact same thread last week, to be honest. Nice one Tallaght.

I'm not too impressed with some of the posting that goes on.

One thing I will say though (and maybe the thing that stopped me posting the thread), is that you can really get into it sometimes. A lot of fora are sanitised to the point where you can hardly say boo. On here, you can kind of get into it a little bit of a row. And tbh, everyone usually ends up with no hard feelings (certainly not the ones I've disagreed with).

To that end, if there was a new mod, I'd throw my hat into Tallaghtoutlaws camp. Cos he knows how to have a good row knows the forum (& Sport) very well

WTF I don't fooking row with........... Oh wait Strike that I am sorry kind sir you may have mistaken me for another fine gentleman by the name of Tallaghtoutlaws

Chanandler Bong

I would put tallaghtoutlaws forward aswell, he seems like a mod who wouldnt be overly fussy with regard to heated discussion, and who also has displayed knowledge of the game and a good participation level, i think the great sword of moderatorship should be placed on his shoulder

Not that I would object to Eagle Eye, Chucky or any of the other lads being mods, i think we do need a new one though

And us Colts fans are gracious enough to advocate a Patriot in power aswell

The Sparrow

TBH I don't really see much of a problem with this forum at the moment. Maybe another mod would react quicker to the odd thing but I don't think it would improve the place too much. So my vote is to keep it as it is. Too many cooks and all that...

If there has to be a new mod my vote goes to Eagle Eye or Chucky the Tree. I seem to argue with tallaghtoutlaws a lot so I don't think it would work out too well for me if he was the mod.:P

Although, I presume tallaghtoutlaws doesn't want to do it or he wouldn't have started a thread about us needing another mod and left his name conspicously off the list... or would he??!;)

tallaghtoutlaws

The Sparrow wrote: »

TBH I don't really see much of a problem with this forum at the moment. Maybe another mod would react quicker to the odd thing but I don't think it would improve the place too much. So my vote is to keep it as it is. Too many cooks and all that...

If there has to be a new mod my vote goes to Eagle Eye or Chucky the Tree. I seem to argue with tallaghtoutlaws a lot so I don't think it would work out too well for me if he was the mod.:P

Although, I presume tallaghtoutlaws doesn't want to do it or he wouldn't have started a thread about us needing another mod and left his name conspicously off the list... or would he??!;)

We only ever argued twice And why wouldn't it work out too well for you? Whoever mods isn't going to start banning you or deleting posts or warning you over debating and arguing football points in which we have done.

As for starting the thread it was to make aware to the other powers that be that there is a few guys in here including myself who can do the job. It gives them options if they decide to go with a new mod who is in here a lot.

kryogen

didnt even make the list

id support more mods, if just to lessen the load on those already doing the job

of course i would be willing to throw my hat into the ring also.

mikemac

kryogen wrote: »

didnt even make the list

id support more mods, if just to lessen the load on those already doing the job

of course i would be willing to throw my hat into the ring also.

I'll vote for ya!
But I don't have a vote

As a regular user of the board I can't say I've come across any issues, trolling or messed up threads
Lots of arguments but that's all good fun :P

I suppose that's a good thing, a forum that runs well shouldn't need active moderation. I didn't think it needed new moderators but go ahead if it needs that.

kryogen

yeah i am inclined to agree that this board is pretty civil most of the time and aot of self moderation happens!

i dont post here as much anymore, but i check in every day when im on! its very rare to see a nasty dispute

The Sparrow

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

We only ever argued twice And why wouldn't it work out too well for you? Whoever mods isn't going to start banning you or deleting posts or warning you over debating and arguing football points in which we have done.

Twas a joke.

tallaghtoutlaws

The Sparrow wrote: »

Twas a joke.

Yeah I realised that today Me and jokes and sarcasm were not on the same page last night after the shocking Irish performance in Croker haha

Tristram

Read these boards pretty often though not posting a lot. Don't think it needs more modding.

Xavi6

Don't think there's much more modding needed either but if it's decided that there is gonna be someone else then tallaght is a good choice. Good poster and knows his stuff. I'd be happy to show any newbie the modding ropes if the other lads are busy with real life stuff.

Sydney Steelers

It's pretty obvious that Tallaght only started this thread so that he could get a moderating position for himself.

To be honest, I feel that he would be a poor choice. He is quite a polarising character on this forum, and adopts an incredibly arrogant attitude towards posters that have a lower post count (sorry to break it to you buddy but having a high post count does not equate to a higher knowledge about the sport). I feel that making him a Mod would lead to megalomania of epic proportions.

Just my 2 cents worth

Sea Devils

Sydney Steelers wrote: »

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adopts an incredibly arrogant attitude towards posters that have a lower post count

It'll be interesting to see if you can provide any quotes/ examples of where that's happened. Seems like an unfounded accusation to me.

columok

Might just be my libertarian leanings but I really don't think this board needs any additional moderation. I posted on the Self Defence & Martial Arts board for many years involved in countless bitter disputes and I can safely say that I've seen little or nothing here that requires very much modding. I do think that when a poster becomes a mod then they can become slightly detached from the community they are posting within.

Unless we have spamming or mega trolling let the community mod itself. Having a wee bit of trolling can be fun and there aren't very many new threads here per day.

Just my opinion...

FlutterinBantam

I'd second that horse.

Black Swan

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

what you think boys?

Boys? Bad B!ue sticks tongue out and blows raspberries at tallaghtoutlaws!

Personally, I think that LuckyLloyd has done an outstanding job as a mod for the American Football forum, being very responsible and responsive, while at the same time letting us rant a bit on occasion (or get off track with cheerleader pics and the like).

f1dan

Tristram wrote: »

Read these boards pretty often though not posting a lot. Don't think it needs more modding.

+1

Chanandler Bong

Sydney Steelers wrote: »

It's pretty obvious that Tallaght only started this thread so that he could get a moderating position for himself.

To be honest, I feel that he would be a poor choice. He is quite a polarising character on this forum, and adopts an incredibly arrogant attitude towards posters that have a lower post count (sorry to break it to you buddy but having a high post count does not equate to a higher knowledge about the sport). I feel that making him a Mod would lead to megalomania of epic proportions.

Just my 2 cents worth

I agree that this definitely does occur on this forum, but tallaght isnt one of the instigators.

tallaghtoutlaws

Sydney Steelers wrote: »

It's pretty obvious that Tallaght only started this thread so that he could get a moderating position for himself.

To be honest, I feel that he would be a poor choice. He is quite a polarising character on this forum, and adopts an incredibly arrogant attitude towards posters that have a lower post count (sorry to break it to you buddy but having a high post count does not equate to a higher knowledge about the sport). I feel that making him a Mod would lead to megalomania of epic proportions.

Just my 2 cents worth

Good man for accusing me. You say I talk down to lower count posters and then you post something like the above. Irony is lost in your whole post. As for trying to get the Mod all to myself do you think I would bother suggesting the other lads who post on here regularly also? They are as good as candidates as me if not better. So before you accuse and fling mud stop and think about it first.

As for the arrogant bit I don't know where to begin with that than to laugh at it. If you knew me you would know why. You truly brightened my day good man and thank you.:D

Oh and to add the only run in I ever had with you was here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=58662655#post58662655

And not once did I talk down to you and in fact you tried to talk down to me if i'm not mistaken.

eagle eye

Just read that thread there, two things, firstly I am surprised sydney did not get banned there as LuckyLloyd would not take kindly to that either, and you and Lloyd have a lot in common, Tallaght and UCD.

frostie500

eagle eye wrote: »

Just read that thread there, two things, firstly I am surprised sydney did not get banned there

Here, here. We're all here to post about a sport that clearly we all love, not to smacktalk one other with bullsh*t

Max Power1

eagle eye wrote: »

Just read that thread there, two things, firstly I am surprised sydney did not get banned there as LuckyLloyd would not take kindly to that either, and you and Lloyd have a lot in common, Tallaght and UCD.

tbh he was lucky to not be banned for that.

Simple equation
Low postcount + Recent Joindate + Harassing posts = TROLLING

Chanandler Bong

It seems that insults can be kept on the right side of the law by the simple addition of a ":D" or several, for extra effect.

I do see sydney steelers as having a valid argument about occasional condescending behaviour directed towards lower-count posters by veterans, but he didnt go about conveying it very well to be fair.

davyjose

Chanandler Bong wrote: »

It seems that insults can be kept on the right side of the law by the simple addition of a ":D" or several, for extra effect.

I do see sydney steelers as having a valid argument about occasional condescending behaviour directed towards lower-count posters by veterans, but he didnt go about conveying it very well to be fair.

CB, I have to disagree. The fact is, that this forum has a few people (maybe 20) who post regularly. That's probably due to the fact that the sport is in the minority here, so those of us that use boards regularly and love football, amount to the people who regularly go on here. You can't punish us for that. As with any small forum, cliques form. But there's nobody here who has ever been stopped being a part of the conversation

Another thing is, I've gotten into it here with many posters (not sure me and eagle eye have ever agreed on anything - other than Tebow - lol), but I don't carry a chip on my shoulder about it.

mikemac

I'd agree that only a small number of posters post here, it's isn't a busy forum at all.
I'd recognize most of regulars at this stage even if they wouldn't recognize me

I've never noticed demeaning posts to new posters. I've started several threads here and all went fine.

I didn't think this forum needed more moderators but after reading this thread, possibly it does

Chanandler Bong

davyjose wrote: »

CB, I have to disagree. The fact is, that this forum has a few people (maybe 20) who post regularly. That's probably due to the fact that the sport is in the minority here, so those of us that use boards regularly and love football, amount to the people who regularly go on here. You can't punish us for that. As with any small forum, cliques form. But there's nobody here who has ever been stopped being a part of the conversation

Another thing is, I've gotten into it here with many posters (not sure me and eagle eye have ever agreed on anything - other than Tebow - lol), but I don't carry a chip on my shoulder about it.

it's funny how the guys with 16 posts are the guys who make statements like "irrelevant, delete immediately", and yet turn around and have a go at other posters like TO for his "polarising statements". A bit pathetic tbh.

I think I've been slightly misunderstood the point of my post was more to outline the way the manner of Sydney Steeler's argument (i.e. slurs and attempted character assassination) detracted all credibility from the argument itself.

As in my earlier post on this thread, I will say that I have occasionally seen posters adopting "arrogant" (as SS put it) attitudes towards newbies, but I stress that I have not seen this occurring (with any poster) to such an extent, or with such regularity, that i felt the need to raise it.

I was saying that if this was what SS was talking about, Tallaght wasn't one who I've ever seen as condescending

frostie500

I can definitly say that I have never felt belittled by anyone here even though I have a low post and didn't really start to use boards until a few months ago. For the vast majority of the time we all have reasoned arguments and a good discussion I've learned alot from some of the posters here, hopefullt thought someone something at some point or another, and I hope that we all feel the same otherwise its pointless spending the time we do here.

As far as the original topic as for mods, I don't think anything drastic needs to be done but Lloyd could probably do with a hand now seeing as he is effectivly the only mod for this forum because of Neil's committments so can we can draw a line in the sand in this thread and just get any of the lads mentioned beforehand appointed as it seems that all of us regular posters/visitors agree that each is acceptable to us

DonkeyPokerTour

I don't think there is a major problem with modding on this forum, however in my opinion on boards.ie as a whole there is a bit of a "Your a noob wtf do you know" attitude, i think this is prevalent on all the forum's here some more so than others, try and remember guys that we all started with 0 posts at some stage. But IMHO its less of a problem in this forum than in others.

LuckyLloyd

Sydney Steelers has been given a well earned two week ban from the forum. Hopefully his mood will lighten somewhat upon his return. I'm going to remove some rubbish from the thread now.

Thanks for everyone's feedback. We will add an extra moderator and are currently discussing it with the powers that be. Cheers.