He cheated but he's sorry?:(

LegacyUser · 11-11-2009 4:38pm #1

I'll keep this brief as I'm too sad to write much.

My bf came home the other night and admitted he'd cheated on me. Actually he didn't admit it, I guessed and he confirmed my worst fear. He had been out on Saturday night and didn't get home till very late. He normally gets into bed and cuddles me but he just rolled over and went to sleep. He was acting shady all day and wouldn't disclose much information about the night before. During lunch I asked him why he was acting so weird and if something had happened. He went all quiet and then I half joked - you weren't with someone else were you???!! And to my horror, he went quiet and then said yes.

He told me it meant nothing, he loves me more then ever and he'll never do it again.
We are together 5 years and he says he has never done it before. Worst part is, I KNOW THE GIRL AND DON'T LIKE HER!!!!!! Sorry for screaming there but I am so angry.

Now, I am a very logical thinker and try not to let emotions get in the way but I am cut into shreds. He seems so so sorry and has told me that he'll do anything to make it up.

I left immediately btw. We are both 28.

I'm gonna stop now as I'm upset. My question is, if he really loved me would he cheat??

He said our relationship is not lacking, it was a drunken thing blah blah blah.

How can he actually love me yet do this to me??

Is it possible to drunkenly cheat and regret it so much and really love teh person??

Thanks:(

Kiera · 11-11-2009 5:28pm

Of course its possible if it was a once off. We all make mistakes. You need to now just think about yourself and not him.

Do you think you can forgive and forget? Are you willing to trust him again? If you answer no to these then you need to walk away.

If you answer yes then take it very slow and let him earn your trust again.

Hope it all works out for you.

LegacyUser · 11-11-2009 5:28pm

ive been drunk to the point of forgetting my own name, ive never cheated. imo drink gives you the courage to do what you couldnt if you were sober. the intent was there to begin with

Nervous Wreck · 11-11-2009 5:48pm

Kiera wrote: »

Of course its possible if it was a once off. We all make mistakes. You need to now just think about yourself and not him.

Do you think you can forgive and forget? Are you willing to trust him again? If you answer no to these then you need to walk away.

If you answer yes then take it very slow and let him earn your trust again.

Hope it all works out for you.

Agreed. The decision should now be about you, not him.

FWIW, I can't stand the idea of cheating and couldn't be with someone after they'd cheated on me. However, your OH sounds genuinely remorseful. From the way you've described it, I don't doubt that it was a total mistake and that he's now punishing himself more than you ever could.

I don't envy your position or choice.... Good luck.

krudler · 11-11-2009 6:47pm

Been there, forgave the person, but it didnt last past a few weeks, that stomach churning feeling when they're out without you and you assume they'll do it again because you've essentially let them get away with it once is horrible, dump him, the being drunk excuse is bull****

Wagon · 11-11-2009 7:23pm

grizzlybear wrote: »

Is it possible to drunkenly cheat and regret it so much and really love teh person??

Thanks:(

Yes...in theory. But it depends on the people in question. My personal outlook is that if someone cheats then they are't truly in love but that's just me. you need to make your own mind up on this one and decide for yourself. forgiving him means accepting that this happened and you have to never go back to this again, even in your own head. If you think you need to interrogate him every time he comes back late then you don't trust him and there's no point in staying with him.

And drink isn't an excuse. If you are capable of shagging someone then you're capable of saying no to someone in the first place.

SarahSassy · 11-11-2009 8:10pm

How can lobbing the gob on either a friend or stranger, on a night out, when you have a long term partner, be 'a mistake' ?

LegacyUser · 11-11-2009 8:13pm

Thanks for the replies guys.

I don't know what's worse -
1) The fact that he did it.
2) The fact that he did it with a girl who I know and who he knows I dont like (reason for this is she's a b*tch who loves herself and always goes after guys with gfs...sigh)
3) The fact that I cooked him lunch, bought wine and was set up for a lazy Sunday hanging out with him until I asked jokingly if he had been with someone.
4) The fact that I truly trusted him cause he'd never given me reason not to.

I feel sickened and so let down. He is such a good guy and it's made me think that if he can cheat, anybody can. We are/were very much in love and I'm shocked.

What's the point to any of it? Why trust somebody and spend years with them if this sh*t seems to happen to so many people.

I hate this feeling so much. The worst part is even if Brad Pitt came onto me I'd say no. Evidently, he's not on the same page.

It's over now.

Nervous Wreck · 11-11-2009 8:15pm

SarahSassy wrote: »

How can lobbing the gob on either a friend or stranger, on a night out, when you have a long term partner be a mistake?

Obviously not a mistake in that it accidentally happened but something he since realises was shít and is regretful of it. We don't know what's going on in the OP's relationship or in her OH's head so we can't really tell why this happened.... It's an awful thing to do though, regardless of situation.

SarahSassy · 11-11-2009 8:24pm

What an idiot he is to lose a loyal girlfriend for a drunken snog. Op best of luck for your future

rachael22 · 11-11-2009 9:31pm

If I were you i'd run as fast as i can- cut off all contact- i've been through this three times with the same person and once you draw the line in the sand and allow them to get away with it- they will do it to you again.

Moomoo1 · 11-11-2009 9:35pm

I am sure it's possible to regret it, yes. In fact I'd expect most normal people to regret it and to be sorry

iguana · 11-11-2009 9:45pm

Wagon wrote: »

forgiving him means accepting that this happened and you have to never go back to this again, even in your own head. If you think you need to interrogate him every time he comes back late then you don't trust him and there's no point in staying with him.

Not really, of course there will be no trust now. But that doesn't mean that if they both really want it and are willing to work through it, that there isn't a chance of rebuilding the trust.

It's not a case of forgive and forget if she chooses to continue the relationship. If she decides to continue the relationship it's a case of them both undertaking a hard and difficult path to see if forgiveness is possible.

Relationships can get over cheating, not by sweeping it under the carpet and moving on. But by a huge amount of work on both sides. Quite often guided by a relationship counsellor.

The Op should take some time out and decide whether she wants to try work this out, at the moment it sounds as if she is on a rollercoaster and she's swinging from walking away to wondering if it is at all possible to fix things. Once she has worked out what she wants to do she can start to move forward. If she does decide to try again she should tell him there are no guarantees and it will take a lot of work to get back on track. If he isn't willing to do whatever she needs (couples counselling perhaps) in the short-term at least, then he isn't worth a second chance.

Boskowski · 11-11-2009 9:46pm

SarahSassy wrote: »

How can lobbing the gob on either a friend or stranger, on a night out, when you have a long term partner, be 'a mistake' ?

Well, it wasn't a 'success' was it?

carlychick · 11-11-2009 9:53pm

im just emailing you to say im so sorry. ur situation just sounds like a girls worst nightmare.i am so sorry. on the outside of course everyone would say you have got to dump him and get rid of him but - in reality ---- that is so tough to do. you have to do what is right for you...if it means working through it and you never know you just might. some of these bi -atches of women oh my god.........its lousy.i wish you well

LegacyUser · 11-11-2009 10:02pm

carlychick wrote: »

im just emailing you to say im so sorry. ur situation just sounds like a girls worst nightmare.i am so sorry. on the outside of course everyone would say you have got to dump him and get rid of him but - in reality ---- that is so tough to do. you have to do what is right for you...if it means working through it and you never know you just might. some of these bi -atches of women oh my god.........its lousy.i wish you well

What? You're blaming the woman?? Excuse me, but it is not her job to worry about the man's relationship status-HE is the one with a girlfriend, she is free and single and can act accordingly. I swear, when I hear a comment like this it makes me realise female solidarity does not exist in this country. The guy is the one to blame for all this he is the one who knows he's taken and did not zip up his mickey. Cop yourself on girl and stop calling a single woman names like that-I bet you don't trust your fella around anyone and think every single woman is a hussy out to ensnare him.

Moomoo1 · 11-11-2009 10:10pm

oh, she knew full well what she was doing. Besides, she had a history of this, according to the OP. Share the blame I say.

LegacyUser · 11-11-2009 10:24pm

Moomoo1 wrote: »

oh, she knew full well what she was doing. Besides, she had a history of this, according to the OP. Share the blame I say.

No, don't buy this. The guy is the one with everything to lose-why should she worry about his relationship? She is the single one, he is the one he gave into temptation and has a partner at home. I think the girl is NOT the issue here, the idiot who's willing to throw away his relationship is and we should not blame anyone but him. "Oh, she has a history of this this"?!? He wasn't drugged and forced to cheat agaisnt his will FFS. If the guy knew he might be tempted he should have gone home to his girlfriend and controlled himself. Not the sinlge girl's problem I say.

Wagon · 11-11-2009 11:04pm

wtf??? wrote: »

What? You're blaming the woman?? Excuse me, but it is not her job to worry about the man's relationship status-HE is the one with a girlfriend, she is free and single and can act accordingly. I swear, when I hear a comment like this it makes me realise female solidarity does not exist in this country. The guy is the one to blame for all this he is the one who knows he's taken and did not zip up his mickey. Cop yourself on girl and stop calling a single woman names like that-I bet you don't trust your fella around anyone and think every single woman is a hussy out to ensnare him.

Female solidarity my bóllocks. Like MooMoo1said, share the blame. both the OP's now ex and the other woman were to blame. More his fault as he's the one in the relationship but she still had her part to play.

Exclamation Marc · 11-11-2009 11:16pm

That sucks. To be honest, as I found out only this week, a leopard never changes its spots. I got with my now ex a year ago after forgiving her for cheating on me months previously when we went out for a few weeks. It just ended at the weekend when she cheated on me for the first time in this relationship. I'm absolutely devestated right now as she told me its shown her her true feelings, and that once you cheat, it's in your blood.

I really advise you to be careful in deciding what to do. My ex did the same with someone she knows I didn't like. The intent will always be there.

I really hope you feel much better OP, but if there was any true remorse, he would have come running home straight away and not waited to be asked.

Moomoo1 · 12-11-2009 1:52am

wtf?? wrote: »

No, don't buy this. The guy is the one with everything to lose-why should she worry about his relationship?

just because it's not her relationship doesn't mean she shouldn't have respect for it...

kjl · 12-11-2009 6:04am

Wow, wow, wow, was it just a kiss, or did he nail her?

if it was a kiss, forget about it.

if it was more, then you should leave him.

in fairness, a girl who clearly you don't like see's you bf and seduces him, your boyfriend in a stupid drunken manner falls for her allure. He makes a mistake and tells you about it, he doesn't sound like the worst guy in the world. A moron perhaps but I could let it go.

I would say put him through his paces, take him back if he makes the effort. I will say one thing though, be direct, guy are not good with hints. Tell him exactly what he has to do in order to win you back.

herya · 12-11-2009 9:04am

wtf??? wrote: »

What? You're blaming the woman?? Excuse me, but it is not her job to worry about the man's relationship status-HE is the one with a girlfriend, she is free and single and can act accordingly. I swear, when I hear a comment like this it makes me realise female solidarity does not exist in this country.

It's the other girl who showed no solidarity by shagging a guy in a relationship. What you write would only make sense if she didn't know but she knew.

LegacyUser · 12-11-2009 9:17am

kjl wrote: »

Wow, wow, wow, was it just a kiss, or did he nail her?

if it was a kiss, forget about it.

if it was more, then you should leave him.

in fairness, a girl who clearly you don't like see's you bf and seduces him, your boyfriend in a stupid drunken manner falls for her allure. He makes a mistake and tells you about it, he doesn't sound like the worst guy in the world. A moron perhaps but I could let it go.

I would say put him through his paces, take him back if he makes the effort. I will say one thing though, be direct, guy are not good with hints. Tell him exactly what he has to do in order to win you back.

Op Here,

He had sex with her. She lives in an apartment in the IFSC and they had been drinking in a bar near there and went back to hers. He came home to me afterwards cause he knew I'd freak out if he didn't come home all night an dhe probably thought that would take more explaining.

To WTF??

It is of course both of there faults, I blame them both. Ok so this girl is single but she knows me and she knows that I've been with my bf for years. How on earth can you deem her blameless?? She set out to get her claws into him and he happliy let her. I hat ethem both.

She is teh kind of girl where if you tell her you like a guy she'll purposely go after him. She is good looking and confident but an absolute weapon and my bf always told me he 'couldn't stand her'.

Oh my god, I am broken and they BOTH broke me. So leave carlychick alone and Moomoo1, at least they are making me feel less empty and a bit better.

Elbi · 12-11-2009 10:23am

Grizzlybear wrote: »

Op Here,

He had sex with her. She lives in an apartment in the IFSC and they had been drinking in a bar near there and went back to hers. He came home to me afterwards cause he knew I'd freak out if he didn't come home all night an dhe probably thought that would take more explaining.

To WTF??

It is of course both of there faults, I blame them both. Ok so this girl is single but she knows me and she knows that I've been with my bf for years. How on earth can you deem her blameless?? She set out to get her claws into him and he happliy let her. I hat ethem both.

She is teh kind of girl where if you tell her you like a guy she'll purposely go after him. She is good looking and confident but an absolute weapon and my bf always told me he 'couldn't stand her'.

Oh my god, I am broken and they BOTH broke me. So leave carlychick alone and Moomoo1, at least they are making me feel less empty and a bit better.

Im sorry to hear about your situation it must be very hard for you right now, I cant really call on it because its never really happended to me but i will just tell you what i think,

I know thoses kind of woman that seem to go after men that have girlfriends or they go after their friends guys and that, i dontknow why they do it i think it must be some attention thig or something, anyway, i agree with some of the posters above the blame is to be put on both of them, and more so him i think because he knew her and knew you didnt like her,

If it was a kiss with some random person im sure you would get over it, but if my BF kissed someone i hate i dont think i could ever let it go, but i think what your guy did was worse he actaully went back to her place and slept with her,

Im actually feeling really cross reading this thread, what a moron,
As for if i think he is sorry or not... well he probably is, he kinda told you straight out, but he knew what he was doing, he left a bar to go to her place, If it was my bf id probably beat him to death,

Best of luck OP,

Fox McCloud · 12-11-2009 11:16am

Sounds to me like he wanted to do it, then regretted it. When he was going back to her place he knew exactly what was going to happen when he got there. Too premediatated to qualify as a drunken mistake if you ask me! Personally, I would not be able to forgive and forget this, I would not be able to trust him again.

Kimia · 12-11-2009 11:25am

Oh god OP i thought it was a drunken kiss! There is no way I could forgive him and I'm sorry that this has happened to you - you must be physically ill at the thoughts of it.

HOW DARE HE! I'm furious for you! And with someone he knows you don't like?? what a b*stard!

This does not sound like the actions of a good guy. This sounds like the actions of a pretty horrible, passive agressive asshole who has hurt you in the best way he knows how and he did it consciously.

It seems like he was angry at you for something else and he took it out on you this way, he 'got his revenge'. Nothing you could have done would ever ever give him the right to do this to you of course, but at least it's a reason.

Ask him why he must hate you so much to do this to you. That's sheer and utter spite, it seems to me. A**hole. I'm shaking my head in disbelief. How could anyone do this to someone they are supposed to love.

carlychick · 12-11-2009 11:30am

no not at all - i blame this girls boyfriend without a doubt. i gather from the email that they are living together and yes it is his fault of course. but - it takes 2 to tango and these girls obviously know each other and knew he was attached. so what was she doing...but totally the guys fault...........

mood · 12-11-2009 11:33am

Grizzlybear wrote: »

Op Here,

He had sex with her. She lives in an apartment in the IFSC and they had been drinking in a bar near there and went back to hers. He came home to me afterwards cause he knew I'd freak out if he didn't come home all night an dhe probably thought that would take more explaining.

To WTF??

It is of course both of there faults, I blame them both. Ok so this girl is single but she knows me and she knows that I've been with my bf for years. How on earth can you deem her blameless?? She set out to get her claws into him and he happliy let her. I hat ethem both.

She is teh kind of girl where if you tell her you like a guy she'll purposely go after him. She is good looking and confident but an absolute weapon and my bf always told me he 'couldn't stand her'.

Oh my god, I am broken and they BOTH broke me. So leave carlychick alone and Moomoo1, at least they are making me feel less empty and a bit better.

Sorry to say but if he had the sense to come home that night and not so drunk that he just fell into a deep, drunken sleep after sex then he knew exactly what he was doing and did it anyway.

Maybe you can get through this. Lots of couples do apparently. But I could never trust anyone who would cheat on me.

Obviously the other girl is a b*tch but he is mainly to blame. He is meant to care about you etc not her.

Taltos · 12-11-2009 11:33am

OP - this is the pits.
I was holding back as like some of the others I was unsure of the scale.

I think that you both need your own space here.
Having to see him each night and pretend everything is ok must be eating you up inside.

Tell him to get out of your sight for a few weeks - you do not want to hear from him - no texts nothing. Just take some time for yourself to figure out what you need with no pressure.

As to fault here - you are spot on - both of them.
Drunk enough to have sex - but not too drunk to know not to come home - something smells there.

Get some space for yourself and don't hold it all in - it will just poison you.
As someone who was cheated on - I was never able to trust the other person again, and had to cut them out of my life. Took me time to learn to trust women again - but eventually realised that there are just people out there either too immature or too selfish to behave like an adult.

Sorry.

John Mason · 12-11-2009 11:41am

Kimia wrote: »

And with someone he knows you don't like?? what a b*stard!

Would it have been better if it was with someone she liked ?

OP, you have to make the decision whether you can accept and forgive and not throw it in his face at every available opportunity.

if you cant do this, you need to move on, its hard but no one said life is easy.

i have been in your position, we decided we could move on from it but after a month, it was destroying me, so he was given his marching orders. best thing i ever done in my life.

best of luck with the future

Kimia · 12-11-2009 12:04pm

irishbird wrote: »

Would it have been better if it was with someone she liked ?

No you're right, it's still awful, but what I meant by that was that it seems like he did is as a f*ck you to her - like a passive agressive attack on her which is why it's even more horrible.

kenbrady · 12-11-2009 12:07pm

Grizzlybear wrote: »

they had been drinking in a bar near there and went back to hers.

my bf always told me he 'couldn't stand her'.

So how long was he drinking with this girl he couldn't stand before he decided to shag her. Did the flirting start after the 1st, 2nd ... pint. Did they start kissing in the bar, holding hands on the way back to her apartment. She knows you, do you think you came up during the conversation. Do you think she asked him "do you want me more than your girlfriend".

Not only did he cheat, he cheated with someone you know, so he cared so little about your 5 year relationship he slept with someone you know and had a high probability of finding out about. I'd say that's why he was so quick with the confession, he knew you would find out about it.

grizzlybear wrote: »

He told me it meant nothing,
he loves me more then ever
he'll never do it again.
he says he has never done it before.
he'll do anything to make it up.

all empty promises

grizzlybear wrote: »

Now, I am a very logical thinker
Then you should be able to answer your own questions

My question is, if he really loved me would he cheat??

How can he actually love me yet do this to me??

Is it possible to drunkenly cheat and regret it so much and really love teh person??

Kimia · 12-11-2009 12:08pm

sunflower27 wrote: »

I think maybe that is reading a bit too much into it.

I reckon he saw an opportunity and took it and thought no-one would ever find out.

True, it could be. I could be wrong, the OP needs to let us know how he is now and what he's saying about the whole thing.

Either way, it's bad, bad form and in my opinion completely unforgiveable. So sorry this happened to you OP xx

LegacyUser · 12-11-2009 12:28pm

Thanks agian for the replies guys. It's really helpful being able to talk openly about this with people who don't know either of us.

He is syaing the usual cliched answers that I expected him to say.

1) She was coming onto him and 'hassling him' all night. Eventually he gave in. Please, does he think I was born yesterday?

2) It meant nothing and he felt like sh*t afterwards.

3) It made him realise how much he loves me. This hurt me the most actually when he said it. I think it's an insult wrapped up in a compliment. Did he need to stick his d*ck in someone else to discover he actually loves me after all this time???

4) He still maintains that he can't stand her but he was so drunk and stoned and she was so pushy.

He claims there was a gang of them back in her place playing drinking games and they played some game where you have to kiss each other and there kiss lingered. He said thats where the moment grew from.

I am shaking with anger now, not hurt. I have smoked about a million cigarettes this week and I feel like I'm going to burst. Last night I was almost asleep and then an image came into my head and my whole body burned up. I mean I was actually red hot all over from anger. I was up at 2am smoking in tears.

I don't know how to get these images out of my mind. How can I make it stop?

I have told him to f*ck off but he keeps texting me. I'm not answering though.

Were the last 5 years a joke to him?? Did it mean so little??

Maybe he is sceretly angry at me for something but I couldn't give a f*ck. There is no excuse or reason to do this to someone you 'love'. Love my ass...f*cking ASSH*LE

Lollipops23 · 12-11-2009 12:30pm

OP I had assumed that it was a drunken snog, and I have to admit that I'd have real trouble dealing with even that.

But full sex?Sorry,no. That took planning, he had plenty of time to come to his senses and realise what he was doing (like on the walk back to her apt). And if he was honestly that drunk he wouldn't be able to perform.

You're worth more than this. Do yourself a favour and get out now.

Kimia · 12-11-2009 12:57pm

Totally agree with you OP, it doesn't matter. He is an a**hole and I cannot believe he would do this (or that anyone would do this)!!!

Ignore him completely. He deserves nothing. It's a complete and utter deal-breaker. What the F*CK like - it 'grew' from there - he was that aware of it happening and still it continued??

And what happens the next time someone 'hassles' him. He sounds like an absolute and utter waster!!

mood · 12-11-2009 1:08pm

He could have told her to f*ck off, first time politely, fifth time very bluntly.

Also, he should not have been taking part in any drinking games involving kissing other people. This alone would be a deal breaker for me.

It sounds like he knew exactly what he was doing so drink/drugs can't be blamed.

I really hope you get over this soon and find a decent man.

xzanti · 12-11-2009 1:09pm

OP I actually feel sick for your reading this thread.. I can't imagine what you must be going through right now.. Just stay strong and remember time heals all wounds and what goes around comes around, I truly believe in Karma and this will come back to haunt them both...

I think he should be held totally accountable for his actions.. as someone else said, if he was able to walk to her apartment and 'get it up' he wasn't that drunk..

Also, this woman sounds like a complete wh0re.. You're a stronger person than me cause if I were in your shoes I'd be naming and shaming the cow to warn other women.. Grrrrrrr :mad::mad:

mood · 12-11-2009 1:11pm

But not name and shame him??? Ok, she is a b*tch but he is mainly to blame IMO.

xzanti · 12-11-2009 1:49pm

mood wrote: »

But not name and shame him??? Ok, she is a b*tch but he is mainly to blame IMO.

Is there any point? He's lost his girlfriend of 5 years and I'm sure all his family, friends etc will know/will find out why ie that he's a cheating scumbag.. What consequences will she face??

Greyfox · 12-11-2009 1:55pm

Lollipops23 wrote: »

OP I had assumed that it was a drunken snog, and I have to admit that I'd have real trouble dealing with even that.

But full sex?Sorry,no. That took planning, he had plenty of time to come to his senses and realise what he was doing (like on the walk back to her apt). And if he was honestly that drunk he wouldn't be able to perform.

You're worth more than this. Do yourself a favour and get out now.

Well said. If he really loved you theirs no way he would of slept with her, he had plenty of time to back out! Get out now!!

LegacyUser · 12-11-2009 2:42pm

I have read this entire thread with interest. My sympathies, OP.

As has been pointed out above, this was not just a case of some drunken 30 second grope in a broom cupboard, which, while horrible, could possibly be forgiven. This took planning, time and effort and in my opinion undermines everything you have been through for the last five years.

This is an instantly dumpable offence in my opinion. No judge or jury or trial, just GONE. Straight away.

As long as you are dumping him because you do not see you having a future together, and not simply just to punish him (and inevitably, yourself).

LegacyUser · 12-11-2009 2:43pm

I would love to just type her name here but I knwo I'd get into serious trouble with boards and God knows what else.

I just feel empty. Can anyone who cheats please explain this to me. It's so hard to believe because we were a very loving couple. He constantly told me how stunning he thinks I am and we laugh all the time, share the same taste in music, films, everything. I am so good to him and he is usually so loving to me so how could this happen??

How can things be fine on a Thursday night having a local pint and then over on a Sunday morning with one person f*cking someone else???

How on earth did this happen??

What should I do about her?? I want to kill her, pysically beat the head off her but I also want to retain my grace and dignity (plus I'm tiny and wouldn't be bale to beat her)

mood · 12-11-2009 2:50pm

xzanti wrote: »

Is there any point? He's lost his girlfriend of 5 years and I'm sure all his family, friends etc will know/will find out why ie that he's a cheating scumbag.. What consequences will she face??

I was simply highlighting the face that the other poster seemed to blame the other girl more than the OPs boyfriend/ex. I was not suggesting the OP name both people her or anywhere else.

xzanti · 12-11-2009 2:59pm

mood wrote: »

I was simply highlighting the face that the other poster seemed to blame the other girl more than the OPs boyfriend/ex. I was not suggesting the OP name both people her or anywhere else.

He cheated but he's sorry?:(

Comments