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The Student Marathon

  • 11-11-2009 1:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭


    Having read this I don't see what all the fuss about marathon training is about. Just turn up and do it, and blow it all over me.......:p

    _____________________________________
    UCD Student Observer
    Chariots of Tired
    Just what happens when an astonishingly unfit and apathetic student tries their hand at completing a marathon – without any training whatsoever? Peter Molloy shuffles his way to finding out
    The panic didn’t set in at all until Sunday afternoon. It was just after 3 o’clock, and I was walking through the entrance of the Main Hall in the RDS.
    Being here in any capacity other than as an exam attendee is unusual enough for a UCD student. Normally towards the end of the year, a visit to the RDS means a dog-eared history text book under arm and a jumbo plastic bottle of water in hand; ready for last minute paragraph scanning and the usual scrum at the seat number board. Not today, though.
    As I make my way inside, it suddenly starts to dawn on me how utterly out of place I am here. From left to right as far as I can see, the hall is filled with lithe, frighteningly fit-looking people. Intense looking stretches and warm-ups are being carried out against the pillars and walls of the hall; the snatches of conversation I can hear as I move through the throng fail to fill me with any sense of confidence.
    “I made three hours alright, but I’m hoping to crack it this year…”
    “Yah, so doing New York as well next week really seemed like a natural progression…”
    Were that not enough, everyone – and I really mean everyone – is dressed from head to toe in combinations of running gear, leggings, and sweatbands. This is only registration, the day before the race, and everybody is girded for battle already.
    I glance down guiltily at the telltale bulge of a cigarette packet beneath the distinctly non-sporty pair of faded jeans I’m wearing, and swallow nervously. This is definitely not my bag.
    I join the queue winding its way up to the balcony of the hall, where I go to a desk to receive my race bib, complete with electronic timing chip. As I move by another desk, a sensor bleeps and my name and race number flash up on a display screen. This is assembly line athleticism.
    Far more importantly, it means I’m properly committed to this now. No turning back.
    I move back downstairs to receive my complimentary goodie bag from one of the female volunteers manning yet another row of desks.
    “Good luck for tomorrow,” she smiles, handing me a plastic bag full of giveaway boxes of cereal and travel-sized deodorant. I don’t think either of us knows just how much I’m going to need it.
    ***
    Bank Holiday Monday begins with the painful realisation that my little Features project will imminently be becoming brutally real. Just after 7:30 in the morning, I’m pacing in a cloud of tobacco smoke in the back garden, desperately trying to remember why on earth I’m doing this.
    Like many stories with unhappy endings; this one began with what seemed like a tremendously good idea. It was the end of August, and planning for Volume XVI of The University Observer was well underway when our incoming Deputy Editor had a brainwave for one of our Semester one issues.
    “How about,” he said, looking at me over his desk, “we register you to run the Dublin Marathon in October?”
    I had to hand it to him – it wasn’t a bad suggestion. I effortlessly make the shortlist for one of the least athletic and competitive people in the Observer office. The outcome of tasking me with an activity that required a significant amount of stamina and commitment couldn’t fail to be interesting. Besides, the last Monday in October seemed a lifetime away on a sunny summer day with the leaves still on the trees. What could I say but yes?
    Now, however, things were about to get unpleasant, fast. By 8:30am, I’ve slunk in to the very rear of the race formation on Fitzwilliam Street, surreptitiously glancing at the competition ranked around me.
    The intervening evening hasn’t made things look any better.
    The steps of the Georgian facades lining the start of the route are cracking under knots of spandex and lycra-clad runners stretching, twitching and breathing in and out in preparation for the off. Here and there, the mass of the crowd temporarily parts to allow some sweat-banded zealot to go through one last warm-up, bouncing through the throng like a bad mime artist.
    Judging by the array of expensive looking running shoes and singlets on display, the collective stock of Dublin’s sporting goods emporiums must have shot up in the last week. I’m not quite looking the part here. I’ve adorned myself with a faded yellow hoodie and a pair of equally sorry-looking tracksuit bottoms; accessorised by a scuffed pair of Dunnes trainers which I’m depressingly confident won’t be up to par when it comes to arch support. My race number is clumsily sellotaped across my chest. There really is nothing like dressing for the occasion.
    Ah, well. At least I have my training to fall back on.
    And I have been training hard. Walking all the way from the Newman Building to the Student Centre. From the Student Centre back to the James Joyce Library. Once or twice, I’ve even hoofed it the entire distance from the Belfield flyover to the Arts Café. This is just going to be a slightly lengthier version of the above… isn’t it?
    I try to ignore the strains of the Garda Band practising for playing the race off, and attempt to concentrate on getting ready to go. I’ve long since settled on my own particular marathon strategy: it’ll be walking, from start to finish. As recently as a day or so ago, I’d flirted with the idea of running the first mile or so, purely for appearance’s sake. The aghast responses I’ve been receiving from friends and family have persuaded me to face facts and acknowledge that even that is probably beyond me. Even a chancer has to recognise reality occasionally.
    Eventually, after a lifetime of anxiously checking and re-checking the time on my phone. and deliberating on whether or not one last smoke will result in me being summarily lynched by the human whippets around me, we’re off.
    I’m slightly disappointed. I was expecting something dramatic here, like a race marshal striding in to the middle of the road and ceremoniously firing a starting pistol toward the grey October sky. Instead, the mass just begins to surge forward as one solid body.
    By Nassau Street, things are going well. I’m striding along, not much faster than if I was out for a spot of early Christmas shopping. The MP3 player I’d filched from my sister’s bedroom is blaring a pungent mixture of Abba and Rihanna in to my ears. This is actually quite alright.
    Famous last words.
    As part of the only modicum of research or preparation I’d bothered with prior to the event, I’d chuckled over and over again to myself at the YouTube video of Paula Radcliffe getting caught short during the London Marathon in 2005. How quickly the smug do fall.
    The fractional amount of practical information I’d managed to soak up had left me with a fear of becoming dehydrated during the event. What’s the solution for an enterprising young writer? Why, simply knock back enough mineral water to fill a camel’s hump prior to starting. Job done.
    Except it isn’t. It’s anything but. As my straggling portion of the procession winds its way past the neon-lit front of the Sinn Féin bookshop on Parnell Square, I’m starting to feel it. By the time we’re passing down the North Circular Road, things are becoming dire. I start to shoot glances at inviting looking front gardens and alleys as I chug past. Solving things a la Radcliffe is beginning to look more and more appealing.
    IMG_6402-b-200x300.jpgI don’t think I’ve ever been so happy to see the squat plastic frame of a portable toilet in my life. Suitably refreshed, I slump to the pavement and fish into my tracksuit pocket for my sweat-stained pack of cigarettes. This is tough stuff, and this first water station only represents the three mile mark.
    I clamber back to my feet and keep on going through the wrought-iron gates of the Phoenix Park.
    Something highly unexpected starts to happen as I continue on over the side roads and avenues of the park. Despite my best efforts at weary cynicism, I’m actually beginning to get in to the spirit of the thing. My phone is shrilling every half mile or so with calls from girlfriend and friends.
    At first, the inquiries are solidly anxious and curious. “You actually got up? You really are doing it?”
    As the miles count off, pain-stakingly slowly, the contact takes a more encouraging tone.
    “Well done – keep going.”
    From nowhere, the hazy idea I originally had of giving it my best shot for a couple of miles or so and then bowing out is being replaced by a desire to grit my teeth and actually finish the thing. Determination? Drive? This is new and very much unexplored territory.
    As I lope out of the Phoenix Park and on to the Chapelizod Road, I take the opportunity of another water stop to halt myself for a moment and lean against a stone wall to light a cigarette. I’m exhaling and mentally weighing up the mere twenty or so miles still left when an unmistakeable American accent hails me from behind.
    “Blow it all over me!”
    My mind is still frantically working on all the different comic directions this can be taken in when the chirpy, pink tracksuited owner of the voice appears at my shoulder.
    “I’m a smoker,” she explains, nodding her head at the smouldering coffin nail between my fingers. “I need my fix.”
    I decide to prevent the situation becoming any more bizarre by simply proffering a Lucky Strike and my lighter.
    As she takes a grateful first drag, my interlocutor introduces herself as Kim O’Connor, an insurance worker from Kansas. O’Connor – and another half-dozen or so members of her family – are in Ireland for an extended break. The previous few days have seen them tick off tourist staples like the Guinness Storehouse and the Book of Kells; now they’re running a marathon to conclude their time in the capital.
    I’m tempted to ask where the urge to spoil an otherwise delightful holiday came from, but I decide to keep my mouth shut. Shuffling along beside O’Connor as our wheezy portion of the cavalcade clears Chapelizod and moves along toward Crumlin, she elaborates on what has her out pounding Dublin pavements on a brisk October Monday. She’s there to raise as much money as possible for leukaemia research, “and have a good time here while I’m at it.”
    Admirable stuff. I’m not quite sure my moral fibre is quite so Kevlar-like, though. For all my newfound sense of spirit, I’m beginning to feel it now.
    The halfway point arrives mid-phone call update to the same Deputy Editor that started all this in the first place. It’s after half-twelve, and he’s just out of bed. I can’t resist a slight tone of weary smugness, though in his defence he’s been awake until four that morning putting the final touches to that fortnight’s issue.
    I progress on past Crumlin Children’s Hospital, doing an Oscar-worthy impression of a particularly lethargic pensioner. That’s a rather futile metaphor, though, because here and there along the route I’ve actually seen several pensioners, and they’re not doing half bad. In fact, some of them are out-pacing me.
    My feet are sorer and sorer now. I haven’t dared look at any of the water station pitstops, but beneath the protective covering of St Bernard’s best rubber and the double layer of socks on each, I’m beginning to get the distinct idea that I may be doing a considerable amount of damage to them.
    A refrain starts repeating itself over and over again in my head. “I’m not even paid for this. I’m not even paid for this. I’m not even paid…”
    The stretch from Terenure to Milltown melds into a bizarre blur of the gates of fee-paying secondary schools. I mark my progress by limping painfully past the entrance to Terenure College, Rathdown, Alexandra College, and on again. It’s well past two in the afternoon now, and I can’t resist mocking myself with the certain knowledge that the winner of the marathon is most likely at home with their feet up by this stage.
    I try to distract myself from the thoughts of my own athletic inadequacy by craning my neck to assess the company I’m keeping here at the tail end – not that that offers much to soothe my strained ego.
    I seem to be the notable exception in a group of middle-aged women marching along in determined lockstep. Here and there, intriguing snippets of pre-menopausal conversation prick my nosy ears.
    “She seems to be studying each night, and the exams do seem to be going OK for her. But, you know, you just can’t force them to study, they have to do it for themselves.”
    I’d almost struggle forward to concur with Fidelma’s sage advice, if I wasn’t so tired.
    As we hit Clonskeagh, another subtle change in proceedings asserts itself. This is home ground now, and it cheers me up somewhat. The first sight of the grammatically-trying “University College Dublin Dublin” crest on a gate is a curious source of inspiration. I begin to straighten my back a little bit and square my shoulders on the approach to the N11.
    This, at last, is the home stretch, but as it progresses, it’s also proving one of the hardest yet. I’ve long since lost count of the number of complimentary 250ml bottles of water I’ve choked down as I go, and my face is a glistening, scarlet patchwork of perspiration.
    Eventually, I find myself moving with painful slowness past the front of the RDS. Queuing for registration almost exactly a day ago seems only the vaguest of memories now.
    When the finish line on Merrion Square arrives, I’m too exhausted to even muster a grin. I mutter a greeting to the Observer photographer who’s trekked out on his Monday evening to cover my moment of triumph; and then slouch forward to the finishing official, handing back my race bib and barely even registering the medal that’s pressed into my hand. I struggle to collect my thoughts. I’m not sure, but it almost appears that I’ve completed a marathon. In a mere seven hours and forty-one minutes.
    For the moment, all I can properly focus on is the last cigarette that I’ve been saving and savouring for past three miles, and the hot meal that I can only hope is waiting at home for me.
    It’s only later, when I’m sprawled in bed well before nine o’clock, post-dinner and lengthy shower, that I can give it some proper consideration. I’m flicking through the souvenir programme that I received as part of my registration pack that long day ago. It’s full of page after page of glossy platitudes about “the world’s friendliest marathon”, and glowing endorsements of the tremendous sense of self-worth that can seemingly only be gained by hauling yourself through forty-two kilometres of marathon course.
    Yesterday, I would have dismissed it all with a dubious snort. Now, though, it doesn’t seem quite so foreign. I don’t think I’ll be in any particular hurry to strap my runners on again, but perhaps – just perhaps – the athletic types might have been right on this one.
    __________________________________


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Read this yesterday in one of the student newspapers while on the bus from UCD into town, had to hold my hand under my bag to stop myself from facepalming. If he's going to do it, putting in at least a little bit of effort in terms of training should be expected...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Read this yesterday in one of the student newspapers while on the bus from UCD into town, had to hold my hand under my bag to stop myself from facepalming. If he's going to do it, putting in at least a little bit of effort in terms of training should be expected...

    He finished the 26.2 miles no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    and average 10min/km according to the results... not bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    Jaysus, maybe Tunney was right in the marathon/achievement thread :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    :mad:Thought this was a bit of a joke to be honest very belittling of the sport. Especially looking atthe other picture which was in that article of him slumped at the end having a cigarette. was verry annoyed by this article when i read it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    But you could say the same about lads playing a game of 5-a-side on a Thursday night before heading out for pints and a smoke..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    mloc123 wrote: »
    and average 10min/km according to the results... not bad

    420mins ? ...7 hours....even Jordan did the London marathon faster.

    He obviously walked the majority,i know a girl who walked it with her dad a few years back,i think she was 6 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Lads consistency please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Lex Luther


    ..........as i've said on other threads , if time, pain ( during and after) and injury are not a consideration pretty much any abled person can traverse 26.2 miles on foot...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    tunney wrote: »
    Lads consistency please.

    Really don't want to get caught up in this, however, training for a marathon as best you can, preparing as best you can and giving 100% and then finishing 'slowly' is one thing but to do it as he did it is another thing altogether. No?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Lex Luther


    RQ absolutely 100% on the money.
    My view - theres huge value for example in an 70 year old grannies 8 hour marathon if thats the best that she could do after application, planning and preparation.
    In my view theres zero value or credit in that students 7 hour marathon and if by some miracle he completed it in 4 hours i would still say it had zero value.
    but sure thats only my opinion......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭Peckham


    Hopefully others will read this and it will demystify the marathon a bit, encouraging them to take up running and having a go at it. I would doubt the masses of the UCD educational factory will read this and think "Jaysus, marathons look like a stroll in the park".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Really don't want to get caught up in this, however, training for a marathon as best you can, preparing as best you can and giving 100% and then finishing 'slowly' is one thing but to do it as he did it is another thing altogether. No?

    Not going there again either but lets be consistent.

    Training as best you can.
    Maybe this lad couldn't fit in training due to the excessive partying and drinking and wasn't willing to make the sacrafices to do the training. Subsitute work,family whatever for partying and drinking..........

    He finished a marathon. By the general consensus on boards that in itself is an achievement and is comparable to anyone else finishing a marathon regardless of whether they did a 2:45 or a 4:30 no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    Surely this isn't 'doing a marathon'?? It's just traversing 26.2 miles on foot and there has to be a difference in the two. If this counts as competing in a marathon then all those times i walked the 10 miles home p**sed at 3am before taxi de-regulation are being counted as 10 milers i finished.

    THe way he has written it doesn't help the cause. Comes across pretty poorly to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    pwhite587 wrote: »
    all those times i walked the 10 miles home p**sed at 3am before taxi re-regulation are being counted as 10 milers i finished.

    Depends, what was your PB?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭jeffontour


    He did this for a story. He makes no claims to be a runner, walker, athlete or anything else apart from a couch potato.

    He got his story and we've read it. That's his achievement so in my view a very successful marathon for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭MarieC


    No I didn't like the article, to me it made students sound like bums, and the marathon was not de-mystified and made sound more do-able, I took his approach to it as somewhat disrespectful.

    I hope that doesnt sound harsher, or moral high horse than I meant it. Just I was non-plussed by his "achievement"..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Maybe they need a tobacco company to supply free cigarettes for distribution at the water stations - I found my ones got all sweaty in my pocket and fell apart before I could smoke them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Gringo78


    aero2k wrote: »
    Maybe they need a tobacco company to supply free cigarettes for distribution at the water stations - I found my ones got all sweaty in my pocket and fell apart before I could smoke them.

    You were obviously running too fast...if you slow down to a more comfortable pace you will sweat less and the cigs should be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭Peckham


    MarieC wrote: »
    I took his approach to it as somewhat disrespectful.

    Can't see how it's disrespectful - he toed the line and completed the 26.2. His opinion on the event is as valid as anyone who ran 2:45 or 4:30 or any other time, it's just that his motivations differed somewhat. "Disrespectful" implies some kind of ignorance without first hand experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭MarieC


    Its not about the time, its about the dedication/committment/reasoning behind doing one.......at least thats what I think.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Clum


    pwhite587 wrote: »
    traversing 26.2 miles on foot

    Sounds like doing a marathon to me.

    Not the way I'd like to do it and it does make a bit of a joke of the whole thing, but fair's fair. He completed a marathon in one attempt. Nobody said we have to run the whole thing from start to finish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭asimonov


    lucky%2Bstrike.jpg

    for a better life...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Stupid_Private


    MarieC wrote: »
    Its not about the time, its about the dedication/committment/reasoning behind doing one.......at least thats what I think.......

    Is finishing the marathon not proving his dedication and commitment?

    It's not the way I'd fancy doing it but only a week ago on here slow marathons were brought into question and by and large the response was that finishing is the achievement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    It's a fun article. I don't think you need to respect 26 miles.

    I do think Tunney has brought up a relevant point regarding the attitude to this and to that of the other thread.

    Is falling out of the bed and walking 26 miles an achievement? What's the difference between him and those finishing in similar times?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭jlang


    (I don't know if he's propping up the student bar with tales of how he won the marathon, but this article doesn't read like one of those). His strategy was to walk, he walked. He doesn't mention his time. He's not claiming to be God's gift to athletics or asking for congratulations. But he has done a marathon and is entitled to some of the self-worth gained by hauling yourself through forty-two kilometres. Fair play to him.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Clum wrote: »
    Sounds like doing a marathon to me.

    Not the way I'd like to do it and it does make a bit of a joke of the whole thing, but fair's fair. He completed a marathon in one attempt. Nobody said we have to run the whole thing from start to finish.

    I think the whole point of the exercise was to be a joke. It's for a student magazine and they picked someone who smoked, drank and could barely get themselves out of bed in the mornings, a student basically, gave them an entry to the marathon and told them to write about it.

    I liked it, and fair play to him for actually bothering to make it all the way round rather than stopping in the first bar he came across.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    The thing that stuck out to me the most in the article was that he sellotaped his number to his hoodie. I know he was badly prepared for the race but it wouldnt have taken much effort to get a few pins no?:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    Are there a few porkies in the story? I wasn't there this year but I never saw anyone streching or warming up at the RDS, never saw anyone there wearing leggings and sweat bands, and have never known a race crowd to part to let someone warm up. Poetic license I suppose.
    griffin100 wrote: »
    Having read this I don't see what all the fuss about marathon training is about. Just turn up and do it, and blow it all over me.......:p

    _____________________________________
    UCD Student Observer
    Chariots of Tired
    Just what happens when an astonishingly unfit and apathetic student tries their hand at completing a marathon – without any training whatsoever? Peter Molloy shuffles his way to finding out
    The panic didn’t set in at all until Sunday afternoon. It was just after 3 o’clock, and I was walking through the entrance of the Main Hall in the RDS.
    Being here in any capacity other than as an exam attendee is unusual enough for a UCD student. Normally towards the end of the year, a visit to the RDS means a dog-eared history text book under arm and a jumbo plastic bottle of water in hand; ready for last minute paragraph scanning and the usual scrum at the seat number board. Not today, though.
    As I make my way inside, it suddenly starts to dawn on me how utterly out of place I am here. From left to right as far as I can see, the hall is filled with lithe, frighteningly fit-looking people. Intense looking stretches and warm-ups are being carried out against the pillars and walls of the hall; the snatches of conversation I can hear as I move through the throng fail to fill me with any sense of confidence.
    “I made three hours alright, but I’m hoping to crack it this year…”
    “Yah, so doing New York as well next week really seemed like a natural progression…”
    Were that not enough, everyone – and I really mean everyone – is dressed from head to toe in combinations of running gear, leggings, and sweatbands. This is only registration, the day before the race, and everybody is girded for battle already.
    I glance down guiltily at the telltale bulge of a cigarette packet beneath the distinctly non-sporty pair of faded jeans I’m wearing, and swallow nervously. This is definitely not my bag.
    I join the queue winding its way up to the balcony of the hall, where I go to a desk to receive my race bib, complete with electronic timing chip. As I move by another desk, a sensor bleeps and my name and race number flash up on a display screen. This is assembly line athleticism.
    Far more importantly, it means I’m properly committed to this now. No turning back.
    I move back downstairs to receive my complimentary goodie bag from one of the female volunteers manning yet another row of desks.
    “Good luck for tomorrow,” she smiles, handing me a plastic bag full of giveaway boxes of cereal and travel-sized deodorant. I don’t think either of us knows just how much I’m going to need it.
    ***
    Bank Holiday Monday begins with the painful realisation that my little Features project will imminently be becoming brutally real. Just after 7:30 in the morning, I’m pacing in a cloud of tobacco smoke in the back garden, desperately trying to remember why on earth I’m doing this.
    Like many stories with unhappy endings; this one began with what seemed like a tremendously good idea. It was the end of August, and planning for Volume XVI of The University Observer was well underway when our incoming Deputy Editor had a brainwave for one of our Semester one issues.
    “How about,” he said, looking at me over his desk, “we register you to run the Dublin Marathon in October?”
    I had to hand it to him – it wasn’t a bad suggestion. I effortlessly make the shortlist for one of the least athletic and competitive people in the Observer office. The outcome of tasking me with an activity that required a significant amount of stamina and commitment couldn’t fail to be interesting. Besides, the last Monday in October seemed a lifetime away on a sunny summer day with the leaves still on the trees. What could I say but yes?
    Now, however, things were about to get unpleasant, fast. By 8:30am, I’ve slunk in to the very rear of the race formation on Fitzwilliam Street, surreptitiously glancing at the competition ranked around me.
    The intervening evening hasn’t made things look any better.
    The steps of the Georgian facades lining the start of the route are cracking under knots of spandex and lycra-clad runners stretching, twitching and breathing in and out in preparation for the off. Here and there, the mass of the crowd temporarily parts to allow some sweat-banded zealot to go through one last warm-up, bouncing through the throng like a bad mime artist.
    Judging by the array of expensive looking running shoes and singlets on display, the collective stock of Dublin’s sporting goods emporiums must have shot up in the last week. I’m not quite looking the part here. I’ve adorned myself with a faded yellow hoodie and a pair of equally sorry-looking tracksuit bottoms; accessorised by a scuffed pair of Dunnes trainers which I’m depressingly confident won’t be up to par when it comes to arch support. My race number is clumsily sellotaped across my chest. There really is nothing like dressing for the occasion.
    Ah, well. At least I have my training to fall back on.
    And I have been training hard. Walking all the way from the Newman Building to the Student Centre. From the Student Centre back to the James Joyce Library. Once or twice, I’ve even hoofed it the entire distance from the Belfield flyover to the Arts Café. This is just going to be a slightly lengthier version of the above… isn’t it?
    I try to ignore the strains of the Garda Band practising for playing the race off, and attempt to concentrate on getting ready to go. I’ve long since settled on my own particular marathon strategy: it’ll be walking, from start to finish. As recently as a day or so ago, I’d flirted with the idea of running the first mile or so, purely for appearance’s sake. The aghast responses I’ve been receiving from friends and family have persuaded me to face facts and acknowledge that even that is probably beyond me. Even a chancer has to recognise reality occasionally.
    Eventually, after a lifetime of anxiously checking and re-checking the time on my phone. and deliberating on whether or not one last smoke will result in me being summarily lynched by the human whippets around me, we’re off.
    I’m slightly disappointed. I was expecting something dramatic here, like a race marshal striding in to the middle of the road and ceremoniously firing a starting pistol toward the grey October sky. Instead, the mass just begins to surge forward as one solid body.
    By Nassau Street, things are going well. I’m striding along, not much faster than if I was out for a spot of early Christmas shopping. The MP3 player I’d filched from my sister’s bedroom is blaring a pungent mixture of Abba and Rihanna in to my ears. This is actually quite alright.
    Famous last words.
    As part of the only modicum of research or preparation I’d bothered with prior to the event, I’d chuckled over and over again to myself at the YouTube video of Paula Radcliffe getting caught short during the London Marathon in 2005. How quickly the smug do fall.
    The fractional amount of practical information I’d managed to soak up had left me with a fear of becoming dehydrated during the event. What’s the solution for an enterprising young writer? Why, simply knock back enough mineral water to fill a camel’s hump prior to starting. Job done.
    Except it isn’t. It’s anything but. As my straggling portion of the procession winds its way past the neon-lit front of the Sinn Féin bookshop on Parnell Square, I’m starting to feel it. By the time we’re passing down the North Circular Road, things are becoming dire. I start to shoot glances at inviting looking front gardens and alleys as I chug past. Solving things a la Radcliffe is beginning to look more and more appealing.
    IMG_6402-b-200x300.jpgI don’t think I’ve ever been so happy to see the squat plastic frame of a portable toilet in my life. Suitably refreshed, I slump to the pavement and fish into my tracksuit pocket for my sweat-stained pack of cigarettes. This is tough stuff, and this first water station only represents the three mile mark.
    I clamber back to my feet and keep on going through the wrought-iron gates of the Phoenix Park.
    Something highly unexpected starts to happen as I continue on over the side roads and avenues of the park. Despite my best efforts at weary cynicism, I’m actually beginning to get in to the spirit of the thing. My phone is shrilling every half mile or so with calls from girlfriend and friends.
    At first, the inquiries are solidly anxious and curious. “You actually got up? You really are doing it?”
    As the miles count off, pain-stakingly slowly, the contact takes a more encouraging tone.
    “Well done – keep going.”
    From nowhere, the hazy idea I originally had of giving it my best shot for a couple of miles or so and then bowing out is being replaced by a desire to grit my teeth and actually finish the thing. Determination? Drive? This is new and very much unexplored territory.
    As I lope out of the Phoenix Park and on to the Chapelizod Road, I take the opportunity of another water stop to halt myself for a moment and lean against a stone wall to light a cigarette. I’m exhaling and mentally weighing up the mere twenty or so miles still left when an unmistakeable American accent hails me from behind.
    “Blow it all over me!”
    My mind is still frantically working on all the different comic directions this can be taken in when the chirpy, pink tracksuited owner of the voice appears at my shoulder.
    “I’m a smoker,” she explains, nodding her head at the smouldering coffin nail between my fingers. “I need my fix.”
    I decide to prevent the situation becoming any more bizarre by simply proffering a Lucky Strike and my lighter.
    As she takes a grateful first drag, my interlocutor introduces herself as Kim O’Connor, an insurance worker from Kansas. O’Connor – and another half-dozen or so members of her family – are in Ireland for an extended break. The previous few days have seen them tick off tourist staples like the Guinness Storehouse and the Book of Kells; now they’re running a marathon to conclude their time in the capital.
    I’m tempted to ask where the urge to spoil an otherwise delightful holiday came from, but I decide to keep my mouth shut. Shuffling along beside O’Connor as our wheezy portion of the cavalcade clears Chapelizod and moves along toward Crumlin, she elaborates on what has her out pounding Dublin pavements on a brisk October Monday. She’s there to raise as much money as possible for leukaemia research, “and have a good time here while I’m at it.”
    Admirable stuff. I’m not quite sure my moral fibre is quite so Kevlar-like, though. For all my newfound sense of spirit, I’m beginning to feel it now.
    The halfway point arrives mid-phone call update to the same Deputy Editor that started all this in the first place. It’s after half-twelve, and he’s just out of bed. I can’t resist a slight tone of weary smugness, though in his defence he’s been awake until four that morning putting the final touches to that fortnight’s issue.
    I progress on past Crumlin Children’s Hospital, doing an Oscar-worthy impression of a particularly lethargic pensioner. That’s a rather futile metaphor, though, because here and there along the route I’ve actually seen several pensioners, and they’re not doing half bad. In fact, some of them are out-pacing me.
    My feet are sorer and sorer now. I haven’t dared look at any of the water station pitstops, but beneath the protective covering of St Bernard’s best rubber and the double layer of socks on each, I’m beginning to get the distinct idea that I may be doing a considerable amount of damage to them.
    A refrain starts repeating itself over and over again in my head. “I’m not even paid for this. I’m not even paid for this. I’m not even paid…”
    The stretch from Terenure to Milltown melds into a bizarre blur of the gates of fee-paying secondary schools. I mark my progress by limping painfully past the entrance to Terenure College, Rathdown, Alexandra College, and on again. It’s well past two in the afternoon now, and I can’t resist mocking myself with the certain knowledge that the winner of the marathon is most likely at home with their feet up by this stage.
    I try to distract myself from the thoughts of my own athletic inadequacy by craning my neck to assess the company I’m keeping here at the tail end – not that that offers much to soothe my strained ego.
    I seem to be the notable exception in a group of middle-aged women marching along in determined lockstep. Here and there, intriguing snippets of pre-menopausal conversation prick my nosy ears.
    “She seems to be studying each night, and the exams do seem to be going OK for her. But, you know, you just can’t force them to study, they have to do it for themselves.”
    I’d almost struggle forward to concur with Fidelma’s sage advice, if I wasn’t so tired.
    As we hit Clonskeagh, another subtle change in proceedings asserts itself. This is home ground now, and it cheers me up somewhat. The first sight of the grammatically-trying “University College Dublin Dublin” crest on a gate is a curious source of inspiration. I begin to straighten my back a little bit and square my shoulders on the approach to the N11.
    This, at last, is the home stretch, but as it progresses, it’s also proving one of the hardest yet. I’ve long since lost count of the number of complimentary 250ml bottles of water I’ve choked down as I go, and my face is a glistening, scarlet patchwork of perspiration.
    Eventually, I find myself moving with painful slowness past the front of the RDS. Queuing for registration almost exactly a day ago seems only the vaguest of memories now.
    When the finish line on Merrion Square arrives, I’m too exhausted to even muster a grin. I mutter a greeting to the Observer photographer who’s trekked out on his Monday evening to cover my moment of triumph; and then slouch forward to the finishing official, handing back my race bib and barely even registering the medal that’s pressed into my hand. I struggle to collect my thoughts. I’m not sure, but it almost appears that I’ve completed a marathon. In a mere seven hours and forty-one minutes.
    For the moment, all I can properly focus on is the last cigarette that I’ve been saving and savouring for past three miles, and the hot meal that I can only hope is waiting at home for me.
    It’s only later, when I’m sprawled in bed well before nine o’clock, post-dinner and lengthy shower, that I can give it some proper consideration. I’m flicking through the souvenir programme that I received as part of my registration pack that long day ago. It’s full of page after page of glossy platitudes about “the world’s friendliest marathon”, and glowing endorsements of the tremendous sense of self-worth that can seemingly only be gained by hauling yourself through forty-two kilometres of marathon course.
    Yesterday, I would have dismissed it all with a dubious snort. Now, though, it doesn’t seem quite so foreign. I don’t think I’ll be in any particular hurry to strap my runners on again, but perhaps – just perhaps – the athletic types might have been right on this one.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭thirstywork


    tunney wrote: »
    Not going there again either but lets be consistent.

    Training as best you can.
    Maybe this lad couldn't fit in training due to the excessive partying and drinking and wasn't willing to make the sacrafices to do the training. Subsitute work,family whatever for partying and drinking..........

    He finished a marathon. By the general consensus on boards that in itself is an achievement and is comparable to anyone else finishing a marathon regardless of whether they did a 2:45 or a 4:30 no?

    Tunney is spot on here,so mnay people coming on here saying to finish a marathon was an achievment.this guy is taking the p#ss.
    Im sure all his mates think he is a hero now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭Brianderunner


    My friend did the same last year, finished it in 4'02 off zero training. He was a smoker too, he asked our flatmate for a fag over the last mile so he could finish the race smoking a fag just to prove a point, he didnt have any on him thankfully. As regards the article i feel it will only generate positive publicity for the race, nobodys saying its as much of an achievement as any of us on here for finishing in 3-4 hrs but good luck to him, imagine walking for nearly 8 hrs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Lex Luther


    great fun reading all this .......some people having planted their flag and stated that "finishing a marathon is a great achievement no matter what" are now being forced by an unpleasant but inexorable logic, to try to take a (fairly odd) position that what this student did was an achievement - when clearly it was not.
    class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Give me a H
    Give me a Y
    Give me a P
    Give me a O
    Give me a C
    Give me a R
    Give me a I
    Give me a T
    Give me a E
    Give me a S

    What have got? A/R/T :)

    In all threads over the last few years the handful of people who suggested that merely finishing a marathon was not an achievement was flamed and insulted.

    I was one of these people however my opinion has moderating slightly and I'm now of the opinion if the person is happy then thats excellent and all that matters.

    Now people are backtracking and saying "well this persons marathon doesn't count as an achievement person of "X, Y and Z".

    Its all or nothing people. People are looking at this person and saying "well they didn't prepare properly". To these people I say well what is a sub 2:10 marathon running going to think of YOUR preparation. People are saying "well he didn't respect the distance". Well what if someone faster that you was to look at your approach to training and diet - odds are they would, if forced, say the same about you. People are saying "well it was just a long walk for him", again some people would view 6 minute kms as almost walking .

    Consistency people - if you want your achievements universally respected then you must do the same for others.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Lex Luther wrote: »
    great fun reading all this .......some people having planted their flag and stated that "finishing a marathon is a great achievement no matter what" are now being forced by an unpleasant but inexorable logic, to try to take a (fairly odd) position that what this student did what an achievement - when clearly it was not.
    class.

    His achievement was to write an article for a student rag and restrain himself from telling the person who signed him up for the marathon to f off.

    Walking a long way is still an achievement though, but only in the event called "walking a long way".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    robinph wrote: »
    His achievement was to write an article for a student rag and restrain himself from telling the person who signed him up for the marathon to f off.

    Walking a long way is still an achievement though, but only in the event called "walking a long way".

    And the difference to him walking and one of the posters on the "is a slow marathon an achievement" thread who did the marathon in 7:15?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    tunney wrote: »
    And the difference to him walking and one of the posters on the "is a slow marathon an achievement" thread who did the marathon in 7:15?

    Not a whole lot, except they would probably have taken 9 hours or not finished at all if they followed his approach. If you must, then that is their achievement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    robinph wrote: »
    Not a whole lot, except they would probably have taken 9 hours or not finished at all if they followed his approach. If you must, then that is their achievement.

    So what time limit are *you* proposed that over which a marathon ceases to be an achievement?
    5 hours? 4 hours? 3 hours? 2:30?

    All this back pedalling is amazing to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    When did people start with this "achievement" lark?
    I've yet to meet someone who has only done one marathon and left it at that claiming that they have achieved something and leave the runners forever consigned to the wardrobe.
    This lad is only part of a wind up to prove a point, what did he prove? **** all.

    An achievement is winning or challenging to win/breaking a record/setting a standard within a peer group (age/sex/nation)/being part of a team in competition.
    Everyone else is just a participant with their own aims/agenda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    When did people start with this "achievement" lark?
    I've yet to meet someone who has only done one marathon and left it at that claiming that they have achieved something and leave the runners forever consigned to the wardrobe.
    This lad is only part of a wind up to prove a point, what did he prove? **** all.

    An achievement is winning or challenging to win/breaking a record/setting a standard within a peer group (age/sex/nation)/being part of a team in competition.
    Everyone else is just a participant with their own aims/agenda.

    And you called me condescending?
    At least I am consistent.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    tunney wrote: »
    So what time limit are *you* proposed that over which a marathon ceases to be an achievement?
    5 hours? 4 hours? 3 hours? 2:30?

    All this back pedalling is amazing to watch.

    I'm not actually saying that what any of them did was not an achievement. What the student did was stay on his feet for X hours, smoke a few fags and write an article for the student paper without getting bored. Biggest achievement though was probably his getting out of bed in the morning on the right day.

    Didn't read the other thread fully, but anyone doing the marathon in 7:15 if that is what was in the other thread achieved their training, set some targets for actually doing the marathon, maybe a time or just to get around, and then they did that.

    If your walking though, your still walking.

    The bloke who does London Marathon in a time of about a week in a diving suit is still walking, but his achievement is to have been daft enough to get up every day, put on a heavy diving suit and presumably have organised a team of people to follow him around and help him out over his three miles he covers each day. It's still walking though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    tunney wrote: »
    And you called me condescending?
    At least I am consistent.

    You've lost me now, in what was I condescending?
    The way you come across is why bother taking part if you can have X,Y,Z training/prep done and can't perform to X,Y,Z level.
    Everyone is different and has their own reasons for taking part, I suppose this social experiment can be included, although it's still a wind up.

    I feel that people don't need to drive home this sense of achievement surronding the marathon as it doesn't happen with other sporting events/distances.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    I feel that people don't need to drive home this sense of achievement surronding the marathon as it doesn't happen with other sporting events/distances.
    Yes there is, every sport has it's goals and targets that people are trying to achieve at every level. Running is unique though in that the most amateur of participants can also take part in the same event as the worlds best who happen to break a world record on that day. This means that you can end up trying to compare the achievements of the person coming in first with the person in last as there is the clear difference between them having done the same route on the same day in the same conditions. Nobody try's to make comparisons between the goings on in a world cup football match and the goings on in a Sunday pub league match, well they do, but everyone know they are talking ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    When did people start with this "achievement" lark?
    I've yet to meet someone who has only done one marathon and left it at that claiming that they have achieved something and leave the runners forever consigned to the wardrobe.

    You never read any running magazines than. Runners World and the likes are full of articles claiming that finishing a marathon is a life-changing achievement, and how you will never be the same person again after crossing your first finish line.

    P.S. I know one guy who finished one triathlon, doesn't even know the distance, hasn't done a single thing in either sport in the years since then and still keeps going on how he is a triathlete.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭HardyEustace



    P.S. I know one guy who finished one triathlon, doesn't even know the distance, hasn't done a single thing in either sport in the years since then and still keeps going on how he is a triathlete.

    In fairness you get people like that in every walk of life no matter what the situation. My whole family does a bit of a mental eye-roll, every time we hear one of my cousins refer to her "college" years. Eh, three months in a private post leaving cert courses that you dropped out of because you were such a p*ss-head does not equate to getting a degree in college, which is what she is hoping to convey! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭griffin100


    IMG_6402-b-200x300.jpg

    Is his finishers medal different in any way to anyone elses?

    According to DCM results a Peter Molloy finished in 7:41.20.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    OK, ignore the writing style and the wee bit of poetic licence. For no other reason than to get a feature article he got up (in itslef an achievment for a student, IIRC ;)) got down to the start line and started. He admits he was planning on bailing after a few miles but he stuck at it, helped by encouragment over the phone. For someone who does little or no excercise to actually stay active for 7:41 and slog through the pain and temptation of "no-one would blame me if I dropped out now" thoughts is an achievment, on some level. I doubt I could have done it in college and the idea of walking for over 7 1/2 hours isn't something I would want to do in a hurry.

    You may not like his attitude but what he did was not easy. But he stuck it out and that deserves as much recognition as anyone else who stuck it out when the going got tough. He has the medal, he's earned his bragging rights.

    The dividing line between him and some of the others on teh "slow" thread is about maximizing potential. He winged it and in no way shape or form did his finishing time reflect the time he is probably capable of. Other people bust thier guts for months and still can't crack 4:30 or 5 or whatever and I wouldn't put him and someone who is honestly trying thier best into teh same category at all (and to be fair I doubt he would either)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    The dividing line between him and some of the others on teh "slow" thread is about maximizing potential. He winged it and in no way shape or form did his finishing time reflect the time he is probably capable of. Other people bust thier guts for months and still can't crack 4:30 or 5 or whatever and I wouldn't put him and someone who is honestly trying thier best into teh same category at all (and to be fair I doubt he would either)

    Is there a dividing line?

    Can someone run 5:00 and and have "maximized potential"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭ronanmac


    tunney wrote: »
    Is there a dividing line?

    Can someone run 5:00 and and have "maximized potential"?

    I don't think there is a dividing line simply because people's physical condition, life pressures, aims and targets are all very different. By virtue of the fact that people and their situation are different from each other, their targets and subsequent fulfillment or otherwise of those targets vary.

    For example, all I wanted to do for my first marathon was to finish it, which I did in 4.39. This year, I wanted to finish under 4 hours, which I did, in 3.55. Both events were achievements for me personally, but I stress the word "personally." I know full well that a 3.55 marathon would be a disaster for many people, and, hopefully, will be for me in the future :D

    What is a good time and what is a bad time is defined by results at the business end of any race. Further back the pack, it's defined by the targets you set for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭MarieC


    ronanmac wrote: »
    This year, I wanted to finish under 4 hours, which I did, in 3.55. Both events were achievements for me personally, but I stress the word "personally." I know full well that a 3.55 marathon would be a disaster for many people, and, hopefully, will be for me in the future
    QUOTE]

    You used the word achievement, that could be seen as controversial on this thread :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭MarieC


    ronanmac wrote: »
    This year, I wanted to finish under 4 hours, which I did, in 3.55. Both events were achievements for me personally, but I stress the word "personally." I know full well that a 3.55 marathon would be a disaster for many people, and, hopefully, will be for me in the future

    You used the word achievement, that could be seen as controversial on this thread :rolleyes:


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