Solution to Governments problems

PCPhoto

following on this thread I've had a brainwave....lol

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2055735517

as I've already posted it in the thread ..... I'll summarise here:

Government should calculate the annual cost of Dole money and offer "emmigration money" to unemployed people, but lets not stop there...... I'm sure plenty of criminals could be tempted to avail of "free" money.

and just so I dont get accused of racism - let the following also "qualify" ..... unemployed, asylam seekers, people with high numbers of criminal convictions basically - lets push the problem to other countries.

one condition of the deal is that anyone who accepts the deal is not allowed into Ireland for at least 5years - payment would be maybe 20-30K.

so after all that rambling - how much money would you accept in order to leave the country and not come back for at least 5yrs ?

mink_man

whats money??

AckwelFoley

50 pence of the queens finest sterling and the promise that my fiance cant trace me

Kiith

I'll stay if they just stop taking my ****ing money in levies.

genericguy

the solution o the government's problems would be for them to pay all people over 50 years old a million euro each so they'd retire - then there'd be jobs for the younger people.

one condition of this would be that they'd have to buy a house - jobs for builders, money for the banks through the mortgages.

if young people and builders had jobs, they'd have money, so they'd buy stuff, and shops and industry would thus benefit.

and this would cost less than the bank bail out.

FearDark

If they reduce my dole I wont be able to eat on a Monday or Tuesday anymore so the second they do that, bye bye.

FearDark

genericguy wrote: »

the solution o the government's problems would be for them to pay all people over 50 years old a million euro each so they'd retire - then there'd be jobs for the younger people.

one condition of this would be that they'd have to buy a house - jobs for builders, money for the banks through the mortgages.

if young people and builders had jobs, they'd have money, so they'd buy stuff, and shops and industry would thus benefit.

and this would cost less than the bank bail out.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055688559

PCPhoto

minimum 5yrs of not being allowed into Ireland.

sounds like a win win situation for me ..... government gets lower unemployment and saves money (in the long term) - reduced asylam seekers/criminals and unemployed....and we get out of this depressing country - with a bit of cash to set up a life somewhere else.

thatsa spicy

Did anybody watch David McWilliams 2006 documentary when it was on there a while back? It already looks like ancient history!
This thread really goes to show how bad things have gotten! Suggesting paying people to fcuk off for 5 years till things are better!

murfie

You couldnt pay me to come back to Ireland right now, pains me to say that but its the truth!

PCPhoto

thatsa spicy wrote: »

Did anybody watch David McWilliams 2006 documentary when it was on there a while back? It already looks like ancient history!
This thread really goes to show how bad things have gotten! Suggesting paying people to fcuk off for 5 years till things are better!

not really asking that people come back after 5yrs ...more of yer not allowed back into the country (yer barred !!)

so hopefully after 5yrs yer set up in some other country and have become successful.

bluto63

Already have left, but if they wanna give me a little money for doing it...

SligoBrewer

100k should do the job nicely.

That'd give me enough money to be educated and see Rovers every second week.

PCPhoto

SligoBrewer wrote: »

100k should do the job nicely.

That'd give me enough money to be educated and see Rovers every second week.

erm... you'd be barred from the country so wouldnt be able to see Rovers every second week - unless you set up a live camera before you leave the country :P

or you could set them up at all grounds and watch Rovers home and away.

Ps. am a Cork City fan :P ..... waterlogged pitch last night !! meh !!

El Siglo

This country was shit before the depression recession, I'm leaving as soon as I finish college. Funny thing is, I guarantee we'll go through this again: Currently recession, in 5-10 years -> recovery -> Economic Boom (10 years) -> Bust -> Recession -> Recovery -> Boom etc... nobody learns from their mistakes, especially governments.

skooby

PCPhoto wrote: »

unemployed, asylam seekers, people with high numbers of criminal convictions basically - lets push the problem to other countries.

will other countries take these people. the unemployed will be no problem but the criminal convictions part is a problem. if seeking a visa this will rule them out straight away. so correct me if im wrong but will this limit them to movement in the EU only. if so does this mean they can return as freely as they left.
plus i dont mean to show any form of racism but the asylum seekers should be gone long ago. if we cant look after our own people now why should we be paying for these. i heard there was a protest in sligo today outside a asylum centre because they felt they were treated unfairly. biggest joke ever.

fair play on the thinking outside the box. its time everyone stopped blaming eachother and start coming up with ideas to sort this country out before its too late

El Weirdo

skooby wrote: »

will other countries take these people. the unemployed will be no problem but the criminal convictions part is a problem. if seeking a visa this will rule them out straight away. so correct me if im wrong but will this limit them to movement in the EU only. if so does this mean they can return as freely as they left.
plus i dont mean to show any form of racism but the asylum seekers should be gone long ago. if we cant look after our own people now why should we be paying for these. i heard there was a protest in sligo today outside a asylum centre because they felt they were treated unfairly. biggest joke ever.

fair play on the thinking outside the box. its time everyone stopped blaming eachother and start coming up with ideas to sort this country out before its too late

And yet you do.

RandolphEsq

El Siglo wrote: »

This country was shit before the depression recession, I'm leaving as soon as I finish college. .

+1

Only thing is that I wish I could contribute in some way towards this free college education I am receiving. Maybe in the future there'll be a way to contribute and give something back

ItsAnOmen

Its the same in nearly every country, you need to be of use these days if you want to emigrate, its not just Ireland people. We should be lucky enough to be in a country that pays generous social welfare, imagine what people with no jobs in America feel like...

tolosenc

Already gone...

SligoBrewer

RandolphEsq wrote: »

+1

Only thing is that I wish I could contribute in some way towards this free college education I am receiving. Maybe in the future there'll be a way to contribute and give something back

Pay your tax.

dermo88

The solution to the Governments problems is a military coup. We then dig up Haugheys coffin, and impale it on a spike beside O'Connell bridge.

We then bring Harney, Cowen, Lenihan, O'Donohue and all the other wasters and bring them to Kilmainham Jail.

Tell them...."This is the legacy that the guys who died here gave, and you squandered it"

We then have a Ceaucescu style show trial, and turn them loose in the toughest part of Dublin, where the ones who have been forgotten and disenfranchised by the so called "Celtic Tiger" decide what to do with them. Of course, they will be found guilty, and will be hanged at O'Connell Bridge.

Thats the start. Thats vengeance. We can work on solutions when we get rid of the ones that caused it. They will never be part of the solution. Thats how the Normans, the English and almost every other invader was able to take advantage of Ireland before. The time is coming for guillotines, for revolution, and to teach the establishment enough is enough.

Of course, I am being satirical, and I hope the moderators and others do not take this seriously. Its not worth getting banned

aligator_am

El Siglo wrote: »

This country was shit before the depression recession, I'm leaving as soon as I finish college. Funny thing is, I guarantee we'll go through this again: Currently recession, in 5-10 years -> recovery -> Economic Boom (10 years) -> Bust -> Recession -> Recovery -> Boom etc... nobody learns from their mistakes, especially governments.

LOL, this country was **** during the boom!!! the majority of people with ANY kind of disposable wealth acted like they were transplanted from the yuppie culture of 1980s London!!! Sadly now a lot of people are stuck in situations with no way out, no matter how hard they try, and yes, some people put themselves there, so I can't pin 100% blame on banks etc, but what really bothers me is the apathy of some people, this recession is like cancer that has hit the bones.... IT'S COMING FOR YOU! unless you're at the top of the pyramid.

I personally think the major difference here is that in previous recessions, Irish people could move, en masse to England or mainland Europe, but this time that doesn't seem to be an option, so quite frankly, it looks like we're fooked lol

skooby

El Weirdo wrote: »

And yet you do.

i am not objecting to these people on the grounds of skin colour or their ethnic background. the part that gets me is the fact they contribute nothing to the economy. the total cost of providing accommodation for asylum seekers in the State in 2008 was 91.5 million euro. do you not think this money could have been spent better. i am not aware of any suggestions put forward for the upcoming budget regarding reducing this. instead we want to reduce social welfare, reduce public service wages. id prefer to see my tax money spent on the irish until we get out of this mess.

wudangclan

skooby wrote: »

i am not objecting to these people on the grounds of skin colour or their ethnic background. the part that gets me is the fact they contribute nothing to the economy. the total cost of providing accommodation for asylum seekers in the State in 2008 was 91.5 million euro. do you not think this money could have been spent better. i am not aware of any suggestions put forward for the upcoming budget regarding reducing this. instead we want to reduce social welfare, reduce public service wages. id prefer to see my tax money spent on the irish until we get out of this mess.

It's policies formulated by the American and European governments (by the IMF,World Bank, the C.A.P. ,Iraq war,Afghan WAr etc.) that lead to a lot of these people coming to our shores seeking asylum in the first place so it's fitting that the money that is being stolen from them is used to facilitate their asylum.

Long Onion

Please amend poll, I would only consider leaving in exchange for an Atari Jaguar.

aligator_am

PCPhoto wrote: »

minimum 5yrs of not being allowed into Ireland.

sounds like a win win situation for me ..... government gets lower unemployment and saves money (in the long term) - reduced asylam seekers/criminals and unemployed....and we get out of this depressing country - with a bit of cash to set up a life somewhere else.

I think the only way this could be enforced would be with retinal scanners / fingerprint scanners as you'd have a gang of bleedin' chancers "leaving" Ireland a load of times

Bring on a Europe wide ID card, will be a big step towards stopping all the country hopping benefit colletors.

seamus

I would need a couple of million at least and a well-paid job which gave me the money to come home whenever I wanted.

Though if my family and friends in their entirety moved too, there'd be no need to come home all that often.

Family are more important than money. It's nothing to do with "Mammy".

Hells Belle

sounds great in theory but we are waiting 18 mths for a Australian PR visa and were told in Sept we could be waiting for at least another 3 years for it, so Aus is out unless you are a doc or engineer. Canada takes 4 years for a visa, the US one is a lottery, France, Germany and the UK are in the same boat as us. I for one would take the money and go travelling for a few years and then come back or go to Oz when I get my visa.

Don't see many long term unemployed (not ones on it a year or two) getting off their backs to do this. We have had heartbreak after heartbreak with this emigrating lark and we are both skilled professionals. I think the guy on Matt Cooper had a point - get them out doing community jobs for the dole plus a bit extra for working, stop the dole if they don't do it or do a sh1t job, that should save a few bucks.

El Weirdo

skooby wrote: »

i am not objecting to these people on the grounds of skin colour or their ethnic background. the part that gets me is the fact they contribute nothing to the economy. the total cost of providing accommodation for asylum seekers in the State in 2008 was 91.5 million euro. do you not think this money could have been spent better. i am not aware of any suggestions put forward for the upcoming budget regarding reducing this. instead we want to reduce social welfare, reduce public service wages. id prefer to see my tax money spent on the irish until we get out of this mess.

And this is not racist?