No gun

ScumLord

I think many people will be severely disappointed with the lack of guns during the apocalypse. How does your survival plan hold up if you don't come across a gun, or for those with guns what happens if you get to the local gun shop and find someone's already taken all the ammo you need?

Riamfada

Nothing wrong with a sword.

aaronjumper

Depends can you crack a skull
with a frying pan?
Or any other household object for
that matter?

Micky Dolenz

I hadn't planned on using a gun. Mainly because I can't use one and the need for ammo is a big minus.

aaronjumper

Well outside of an army barracks I wouldnt
know where to get one so probably
just use any old thing i find as a weapon.

SmileyPaul

only one of my plans involves using a gun and thats the one where I just report to my barracks and see whats goin down :P
other wise I'm happy with my blades

Kromdar

lots n lots n lots of cades. and a sharp stick.

ScumLord

SmileyPaul wrote: »

only one of my plans involves using a gun and thats the one where I just report to my barracks and see whats goin down :P
other wise I'm happy with my blades

Risky plan, probably going to be the most fun but almost certain risk of death. However once the Sargent gets killed everyone can throw their training out the window and go Rambo, die in style.

Doctor DooM

Relying on guns will be a biiiig mistake unless you've got a significant stock pile of bullets.

Otherwise guns should be used for truly dire, do-or-mutate situations.

Avoidance and pikes for the win

I for one, Have a gun.... Muhuhahaha....

Father Stone

There are other more inventive ways of getting rid of zombies. Baseball bats, hurleys, fire, shovels.

SmileyPaul

ScumLord wrote: »

Risky plan, probably going to be the most fun but almost certain risk of death. However once the Sargent gets killed everyone can throw their training out the window and go Rambo, die in style.

thats the plan my scummy friend

aaronjumper

Or smileypaul you could be extra nice
and teach us civilians a handy survival
trick or two. Please?
All ive got are frying pans!

SmileyPaul

aaronjumper wrote: »

Or smileypaul you could be extra nice
and teach us civilians a handy survival
trick or two. Please?
All ive got are frying pans!

dont go to the hassle of typing out my whole name, Ill allow you to call me smiley :P

em...... well since I'd only have one rifle and linited ammo after the defense forces fail Ill be keeping them for serious emergencies, but your welcome to get a lesson on camouflage and concealment if you like :P

Phractal

Build a gun. It aint too hard. THere are books on the subject, I have a lot of them. P.A. Luty wrote a few good ones.

Molotovs are easily made. Erythritol Tetranitrate, or even RDX, are easily, and safely, synthisized in bulk from common materials. They may be plasticized via Polyisobutylene, or a collidon of Ethylene Glycol Dinitrate and Nitrocllulose, both easily made materials. Electronic ignitors are simply constructed. Acetone Peroxide, HMTD, or such can be made in hours for creation of blasting caps. A little chemistry and one has enough explosives to drop a building. One then can make the Claymores, grenades, shells and such thast they require to eliminate all the zombies in a fair area.

A propane tank, an incendiary charge, and a timer circuit will clear a building in minutes.

Think of the more explosive method?

Mahatma coat

Phractal wrote: »

Build a gun. It aint too hard. THere are books on the subject, I have a lot of them. P.A. Luty wrote a few good ones.

Molotovs are easily made. Erythritol Tetranitrate, or even RDX, are easily, and safely, synthisized in bulk from common materials. They may be plasticized via Polyisobutylene, or a collidon of Ethylene Glycol Dinitrate and Nitrocllulose, both easily made materials. Electronic ignitors are simply constructed. Acetone Peroxide, HMTD, or such can be made in hours for creation of blasting caps. A little chemistry and one has enough explosives to drop a building. One then can make the Claymores, grenades, shells and such thast they require to eliminate all the zombies in a fair area.

A propane tank, an incendiary charge, and a timer circuit will clear a building in minutes.

Think of the more explosive method?

you sound like a handy sort of fella to know, if you can make the propellant I cn knock up some projectiles

Screw Guns, Range is everything when infection is caused trhrough proximity with Z's

MORTARS FTW


all ye silly gits with swords, do me a favour and kill yersel before you get infected.

Ginja Ninja

but explosives are highly in-effective against zeds.destroying the bran does it[i go on the max brooks/'normal' zeds] which is incredibly difficult with expllosives unless you have some really lucky shrapnel.

Evolute

I for one can quite happily say while I do not have a gun on hand I'm about ten minutes away from getting to a gun shop and 30 to 40 mins away from getting to a gun club.

How ever if the worst comes to the worst im sure that a raid to any D.I.Y store can have some very useful weapons and tools to make weapons.
Nail guns, staple guns, Hell an aircompressor some metal tubing and some type of projectile can be used to mill a zombies face out of it.
Sure even fire extinguisher can take a zombie out.

--Kaiser--

Sock
Snooker Ball
Sorted.

ScumLord

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Sock
Snooker Ball
Sorted.

This is no time for masturbation dammit!

aaronjumper

ScumLord wrote: »

This is no time for masturbation dammit!

:eek::eek::eek:

Theres no time like the present!

NOGMaxpower

Iam a collector of knives and have one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kukri

they kick ass and are great for chopping off heads. there is also a blunt side that is very heavy and would easily cave in a Z's head. its 2.5ft long btw.

just in case I'd have one of these too.....
A lump hammer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_hammer

picture it, bash with the hammer and slash with the Kukri

never runs outa ammo

Also running, escape plan, vehicle...

CyanRain

I'd hide

cyberwolf77

Baseball bat or cut-down pool cue my weapons of choice.

unreggd

Fleece woodies!

Distance is the best weapon

If your goin down the choppy-head samurai word route, you need some goggles to avoid splatter!!

Kromdar

if you really wanted to take the pacifist side, make a ghillie suit out of pine tree air fresheners. they won't know what to do.

MikeyCyrus

Phractal wrote: »

Build a gun. It aint too hard. THere are books on the subject, I have a lot of them. P.A. Luty wrote a few good ones.

Molotovs are easily made. Erythritol Tetranitrate, or even RDX, are easily, and safely, synthisized in bulk from common materials. They may be plasticized via Polyisobutylene, or a collidon of Ethylene Glycol Dinitrate and Nitrocllulose, both easily made materials. Electronic ignitors are simply constructed. Acetone Peroxide, HMTD, or such can be made in hours for creation of blasting caps. A little chemistry and one has enough explosives to drop a building. One then can make the Claymores, grenades, shells and such thast they require to eliminate all the zombies in a fair area.

A propane tank, an incendiary charge, and a timer circuit will clear a building in minutes.

Think of the more explosive method?

If this isnt to hard, i must be mentally retarded...

NOGMaxpower

MikeyCyrus wrote: »

If this isnt to hard, i must be mentally retarded...

Its actually quite easy to make explosives, pipe bombs are dead handy, larger more potent requires a bit more trickery but still quite simple to do.

Evolute

NOGMaxpower wrote: »

Its actually quite easy to make explosives, pipe bombs are dead handy, larger more potent requires a bit more trickery but still quite simple to do.

Hehe that will probably be my downfall not the zombies it will be the fact that I will probably blow myself up making them but atleast I will die doing something fun:P not being zombie chow

ScumLord

unreggd wrote: »

Fleece woodies!

Distance is the best weapon

If your goin down the choppy-head samurai word route, you need some goggles to avoid splatter!!

That's a very good point. Anyone going Zombie hunting should be covered from head to toe to avoid contamination.

Duggy747

Get yourself to a biker shop and and bag yourself biker armour:



No decayed teeth are getting through that!

mcmoustache

There's loads of hurleys around. You can make a bow and arrows if you want. You can mow them down in a car. Burn them with a barrel of gas, a long pipe and a lighter. An axe or a hammer if you're brave. Train a dog to maul them. There's the shovel, which is always popular in the movies. You could lure them into traps. Lace some human brains with poison and leave them lying around. You'll find the brains the houses of old people who will be dying off pretty fast without their meds. Of course, you'll always find a gun in the apocalypse

Mahatma coat

ScumLord wrote: »

That's a very good point. Anyone going Zombie hunting should be covered from head to toe to avoid contamination.

See thats what I've been saying too

thats why I prefer artillery to Swords


if one Mortar dosent do the job then keep firing and firing until the job is done, but try and maintain a half mile between you and the Z's, its also recomended that you have a designated killsite try and funnel them into it and blow them up with strategicaly placed mines


Also on a more salient note

If you find a Gun just lying about, LEAVE IT THERE, it didn't do the previous owner any good

cyberwolf77

RopeDrink wrote: »

If I was to resort to firearms I'd stick with a Shotgun though, ultimately, as much as everyone loves the idea of explosives and ranged weapons, you do realise that using such things is only going to encourage/lure more zombies, right?

Thats the thing with Zeds, you can risk getting up close for a quiet kill and suffer splatter, random accidental bite, being overwhelmed etc

Or heck, start throwing pipe bombs to be 'on the safe side' and realise you've just sent out an invitation to every other zed in the surrounding area to a potential meal.

Stick with the simple stuff - Both is risky but assuming you're well covered and aren't surrounded, you'll want a sturdy, easy to maintain melee weapon not some noisy rabble.

In this house alone I've a Hurley, Cricket Bat, Hand-Axe, Pool Cues, Kitchen Utensils of all types, flammable sprays and all sorts of things you could use... But, well, yeah, give me a Shotgun for the pant-wetting moments of desperation.

Shotgun would be my breakout, escape weapon of choice. Otherwise give me a pneumatic nailgun in a defensible position along with my hockey stick and a bat

NOGMaxpower

eh think of 300 at the hot gates...

regardless of the size of your enemy, if you funnel them into a tight pass they are only as strong as the front row.

Im liking the biker armor Kevlar etc, have this head to toe with a helmet. Then all we need is a 5 foot Shield and 9 foot pikes, move into phalenx formation and disco we'd just mill those ****ers out of it til there's none left. of course behind the phalenx we'd have people armed with guns to take out any surprises at short notice.

- Z's dead.

Phractal

The way I see it, is that when that lovely fuel air device goes off killing ANYTHING in half a mile (one is demonstrated in the film 'outbreak' however the design used is unworkable, I myself worked on designing one recently- will provide references later)
I will be the ****er pushing the button on it. Then going into the Ground Zero to 'mop up' (burn any little bits left over). A zomb cant do much when Its blown in a million bits by my Claymores and Mortars, immobilized due to being shredded/ incinerated:D

NOGMaxpower

Phractal wrote: »

The way I see it, is that when that lovely fuel air device goes off killing ANYTHING in half a mile (one is demonstrated in the film 'outbreak' however the design used is unworkable, I myself worked on designing one recently- will provide references later)
I will be the ****er pushing the button on it. Then going into the Ground Zero to 'mop up' (burn any little bits left over). A zomb cant do much when Its blown in a million bits by my Claymores and Mortars, immobilized due to being shredded/ incinerated:D

this doens't deem the Z's to be put beyond use. They can still infect and they can still host the infection. Imagine the feast rats/birds/wild life would have on charred Z remains. Then see if you can avoid the hordes of wild animals starting the cycle all over again. eventually the virus would reinfect humans and you'd better have another plan to hand.

Mahatma coat

NOGMaxpower wrote: »

this doens't deem the Z's to be put beyond use. They can still infect and they can still host the infection. Imagine the feast rats/birds/wild life would have on charred Z remains. Then see if you can avoid the hordes of wild animals starting the cycle all over again. eventually the virus would reinfect humans and you'd better have another plan to hand.

So the only sensible thing to do is 'Nuke the site from Orbit' :D:D

Kromdar

Mahatma coat wrote: »

So the only sensible thing to do is 'Nuke the site from Orbit' :D:D

its the only way to be sure.

NOGMaxpower

Kromdar wrote: »

its the only way to be sure.

Well no its not far too many variables to deal with. In theory it should work but we can't be sure. please refer to Zombie Science thread...

Since we all know nuclear waste can cause mutations we have no idea what effect this would have on Z's on the out perimeter of the fallout area. It could cause some serious mutations of the virus and thus create a super Z virus.

If you've seen "Night of the living Dead" the put that theory to test and well lets say there was a sequal lol.

It could cause a global infection, the Z virus could be spread into the earths upper atmosphere and into rain clouds. Everyone and anything coming into contact with said rain would be turned.

Good idea but again it would need to be tested 1st in a controlled environment to be 100% sure we're not dooming the entire planet.

Kromdar

NOGMaxpower wrote: »

Since we all know nuclear waste can cause mutations...

someone's been playing too much Fallout. radioactivity kills or disfigures, it doesnt make people stronger, quite the opposite, anyone who's had radiation therapy isnt going to be jumping around singing any time soon.

anyway, we're talking nukes, not waste - vaporisation. and you obviously missed the 'Aliens' movie reference, so never mind...

ScumLord

NOGMaxpower wrote: »

Since we all know nuclear waste can cause mutations we have no idea what effect this would have on Z's on the out perimeter of the fallout area. It could cause some serious mutations of the virus and thus create a super Z virus.

At the most it could cause a mutation in the virus but since nearly all the zombies body is dead there's no chance of causing a mutation in the zombie. AS the cell won't reproduce with the new mutation.

cyberwolf77

So we can safely ignore the joy of radioactive zombies wandering around exposing us to lethal levels of radiation.

ScumLord

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

So we can safely ignore the joy of radioactive zombies wandering around exposing us to lethal levels of radiation.

No, the zombies on the edge of the blastzone would be highly radioactive what exactly would happen to the dead flesh is another matter, I just don't think they can mutate. The virus on the other hand is another matter. It'll either die, maybe taking the zombie with it, be so damaged it can't reproduce or be unaffected. It's hard to know.

cyberwolf77

See, I would be more worried about the ambualtory radioactive fallout trying to get into my fortified shelter.

Kromdar

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

See, I would be more worried about the ambualtory radioactive fallout trying to get into my fortified shelter.

not if your fortress was a fallout shelter; which, being an american, you have a distinct advantage of actually having numerous fallout shelters in your country.

thank god for the 1980's, eh?

the locust

OP - i'd be sure to acquire a lengthy bayonet for my carbine whilst looting before the main swarm broke out. Also I think lengthy spiked knuckle dusters are a good idea

Evolute

If your getting down and dirty with the zombies do them in with wolverine style claws. Now if you can make them fair dues I cant but damn they would be deadly if you where covered in the biker style armor. Also if you had a motorbike helmet you could have big spikes stuck all over it or you could cover it with thin metal sheating and weld the spikes on atleast if your going in your using everything as a weapon besides it looks funny if your loafing zombies and killing them and could be zombiekill of the week:D. Although with that option you may need some kind of mini window wipers lol