quickie nationality question

The_B_Man

If an australian couple visit france on holiday, while the female is 8 or so months pregnant (holiday booked a year in advance btw), stay for a month, then give birth in france and head back to oz after a few weeks, does the baby get to claim a french passport and live and work in the EU? Or has the kid no entitlement at all?

according to said baby, who is now in her 20s, she can get some form of bastardised french passport that doesnt let her travel or work freely. I thought if she was born there, she would be entitled to EU citizenship.

can anyone clarify this?

cheers.

Rabies

A mini reversal thing from me. But along the same lines.

Two of my mates, she is Irish, he is French. But they both live in NZ. She gave birth here last Nov. Both parents work here and have done for a few years. Neither are NZ residents, like myself they're on sponsored work permits.
The child is not classed as a New Zealander, they needed to apply for a French passport and get a vistor permit for their baby. Not allowed to register the baby as NZ'er.

Fratton Fred

Wasn't there a referendum on this a while back?

AlanSparrowhawk

To the best of my poor knowledge it was only Ireland who had this "every baby born in the country has a right to a passport" and this was only to allow people born in Northern Ireland to receive Irish passports.

You'd have to look at the specific legislation for the French

Mr. CooL ICE

8 month pregnant women are allowed to fly now?

Rabies

20yrs ago.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Who did you get preggers on your trip to oz, ya dirty divil?

The_B_Man

eh, yore ma!

and if i did get someone up the duff out here, i wouldnt be lettin them give birth in france anyway! tallaghtfornia/aussie accent is the way forward! home and away meets fair city. surfin on bondi meets bathtub down the dodder!

u should come over. if ya cant get a job like the rest of them, have a look at this thread on another forum:
Lots of job opportunities in australia

Long Onion

If you were born in a bananna box, are you a bannana?

AnonoBoy

Long Onion wrote: »

If you were born in a bananna box, are you a bannana?

Yes. I am a bannana whatever that is.

Long Onion

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Yes. I am a bannana whatever that is.

It's a yellwo furit

AnonoBoy

Long Onion wrote: »

It's a yellwo furit

Send 'em back to Furit Land where they came from I say.

Cookie_Monster

Regardless, why on earth would you want to be French? Poor kid!

jeckle

The_B_Man wrote: »

If an australian couple visit france on holiday, while the female is 8 or so months pregnant (holiday booked a year in advance btw), stay for a month, then give birth in france and head back to oz after a few weeks, does the baby get to claim a french passport and live and work in the EU? Or has the kid no entitlement at all?

according to said baby, who is now in her 20s, she can get some form of bastardised french passport that doesnt let her travel or work freely. I thought if she was born there, she would be entitled to EU citizenship.

can anyone clarify this?

cheers.

French citizenship for children born in France to foreign parents is subject to residency in France. French law states that a person born in France to foreign parents can only become a French citizen (& get a French passport) if they were a French resident when they were 18 years old and were a French resident during at least 5 years since they were 11 years old.

Only children born in France to at least one French parent are automatically French citizens.

They’d really have to check with the French Embassy, as there are some quirky laws about if you or one of your parents was born in a former French colony, that you may be entitled to claim citizenship, but come with strings attached such as owning a property there & being able to speak fluent French.


http://www.consulfrance-lecap.org/article.php3?id_article=461

Not sure about France, but I know in Spain you have to live in the country for X number of years (I believe until you're 18) to be entitled to a Spanish passport. I know a girl who was born there and lived there until she was 16 and she's not officially Spanish.

ScumLord

You don't need a French passport, if you wear a black and white stripy jumper, wear garlic around your neck and top it off with a Beret you'll pass for French every time. I was the French minister for defence for nearly 3 months just by dressing that way.

AckwelFoley

Its best that the person never admits that they were born in france.

Apparently there is some crazy french lady hates the Irish, so now we all apparently hate the french.

Cookie_Monster

snyper wrote: »

Apparently there is some crazy french lady hates the Irish, so now we all apparently hate the french.

I hated them long before it was cool...

Fratton Fred

ScumLord wrote: »

You don't need a French passport, if you wear a black and white stripy jumper, wear garlic around your neck and top it off with a Beret you'll pass for French every time. I was the French minister for defence for nearly 3 months just by dressing that way.

the second most pointless political position in the world, after the Australian minister for culture

ejmaztec

Fratton Fred wrote: »

the second most pointless political position in the world, after the Australian minister for culture

Isn't that post still occupied by that Australian style-icon, Sir Les Patterson?:pac:

Cookie_Monster

Fratton Fred wrote: »

the second most pointless political position in the world, after the Australian minister for culture

Not so sir, a lot of time and effort goes into planning all those escape routes

enda1

Oh, and there's no such thing as "EU citizenship"!

eoinor

eh, yore ma!

and if i did get someone up the duff out here, i wouldnt be lettin them give birth in france anyway! tallaghtfornia/aussie accent is the way forward! home and away meets fair city. surfin on bondi meets bathtub down the dodder!

u should come over. if ya cant get a job like the rest of them, have a look at this thread on another forum:
Lots of job opportunities in australia Lots of job opportunities in australia

And the Garda didn't even notice!

The_B_Man

lol thats classic! i heard about the garda camprevan going around melbourne alright, but never saw it!

The_B_Man

jeckle wrote: »

French citizenship for children born in France to foreign parents is subject to residency in France. French law states that a person born in France to foreign parents can only become a French citizen (& get a French passport) if they were a French resident when they were 18 years old and were a French resident during at least 5 years since they were 11 years old.

Only children born in France to at least one French parent are automatically French citizens.

They’d really have to check with the French Embassy, as there are some quirky laws about if you or one of your parents was born in a former French colony, that you may be entitled to claim citizenship, but come with strings attached such as owning a property there & being able to speak fluent French.


http://www.consulfrance-lecap.org/article.php3?id_article=461

Interestingly enough, it came up in conversation yesterday that her mother is french! though shes been living in australia for years now.

orourkeda

I'd rather be australian than french.

Daroxtar

Long Onion wrote: »

If you were born in a bananna box, are you a bannana?

Or if a cat has kittens in an oven are they buns?

LiamMc

[quote=[Deleted User];62918591]Not sure about France, but I know in Spain you have to live in the country for X number of years (I believe until you're 18) to be entitled to a Spanish passport. I know a girl who was born there and lived there until she was 16 and she's not officially Spanish.[/quote]

Is she Catalunyan or Asturiasian? Or does she have another first name?

pablomakaveli

The child could always join the French Foreign Legion. Legionnaires are given french citizenship when they complete their service.

The_B_Man

tbh, shes a head wrecker and shes been saying she wants to move to europe. im just tryin to find this stuff out so i can convince her to go sooner rather than later!!

DubMedic

Daroxtar wrote: »

Or if a cat has kittens in an oven are they buns?

No, they'd be toast.
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gnxx

Try kicking a football at her .. if she uses her hand to block the ball she is probably french.

ashyle

People in their 3rd trimester shouldn't be able to fly?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

ashyle wrote: »

People in their 3rd trimester shouldn't be able to fly?

From the original post...

The_B_Man wrote: »

according to said baby, who is now in her 20s, she can get some form of bastardised french passport that doesnt let her travel or work freely. I thought if she was born there, she would be entitled to EU citizenship.

can anyone clarify this?

cheers.

...this would have happened in the eighties. The question now is, how does someone get to be 20 year old baby??

redout

[quote=[Deleted User];62918591]Not sure about France, but I know in Spain you have to live in the country for X number of years (I believe until you're 18) to be entitled to a Spanish passport. I know a girl who was born there and lived there until she was 16 and she's not officially Spanish.[/quote]

I know a family with the kids all born and reared in South America and the Father was Spanish. All the kids got Spanish citizenship yet never lived there. As far as I know all their births were registered with the embassy immediately after and that is all that was required.

pickarooney

ScumLord wrote: »

You don't need a French passport, if you wear a black and white stripy jumper, wear garlic around your neck and top it off with a Beret you'll pass for French every time. I was the French minister for defence for nearly 3 months just by dressing that way.

Good going. Presumably it was during Michèle Alliot-Marie's tenure?