At least eight people have been shot in an Orlando, Florida

MagicMarker

..... and again!!

Breaking on CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/orlando.shootings/index.html

Orlando, Florida (CNN) -- At least seven people with serious gunshot wounds were brought out of an Orlando, Florida, office building Friday, a spokeswoman with the city fire department said.
A gunman was at large after firefighters and police responded to the report of a shooting at a high-rise building, said John Tormos of the Orlando Fire Department.

A spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Office, which is helping the city police department, said investigators are looking for a man wearing a blue Polo shirt, gray vest and blue jeans.
"We're in a search mode for the gunman," said Jim Solomons, a spokesman for the sheriff's office.
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CNN affiliate WESH said the shooting occurred at the Gateway Center -- a 16-story building near Lake Ivanhoe and Interstate 4.
The interstate was closed in both directions near the office building, according to the Florida Department of Transportation Web site.

Stercus Accidit

Ah but it happens in europe just as frequently I'm sure.

metaoblivia

My mother works in the building next to the one where the shooting happened. Her building has been locked down, and when I called the background was very chaotic. My brother's also a firefighter for the city of Orlando, so there will be some interesting family chats in the days to come!

wudangclan

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Ah but it happens in europe just as frequently I'm sure.

'fraid not.
if we could have better access to guns however...

brummytom

Ahh for fuck sake.

I don't care what anyone says about it happening 'just as much in Europe'. You can't deny every time this happens in America it's a pretty strong argument against them 'bearing arms'.

mike65

Canadians are armed to the hilt (by European standards) as well and yet how often do such events occure there?

Stercus Accidit

wudangclan wrote: »

'fraid not.
if we could have better access to guns however...

brummytom wrote: »

Ahh for fuck sake.

I don't care what anyone says about it happening 'just as much in Europe'. You can't deny every time this happens in America it's a pretty strong argument against them 'bearing arms'.

I probably should have used one of these :rolleyes:

RMD

mike65 wrote: »

Canadians are armed to the hilt (by European standards) as well and yet how often do such events occure there?

Not 100% sure on this, but I'm pretty postive the Swiss have gun possesion statistics similar to the Americans yet the gun crime there isn't even a dot on Americas.

wudangclan

:rolleyes:

Borneo Fnctn

What are those Americans playing at?

mikom

RMD wrote: »

Not 100% sure on this, but I'm pretty postive the Swiss have gun possesion statistics similar to the Americans yet the gun crime there isn't even a dot on Americas.

Too busy making cuckoo clocks and qualifying for soccer tournaments at our expense to have time for shooting sprees.

Fratton Fred

mike65 wrote: »

Canadians are armed to the hilt (by European standards) as well and yet how often do such events occure there?

Yeah, but the Canadians are just too boring and nice to want to do this sort of thing, besides, half of them are French and know how to run away quickly at the sound of gunfire.

MagicMarker

A little perspective is needed also...

Canadian Population - 33,000,000
American Population - 300,000,000

But yes I do agree this never happens in Canada!

metaoblivia

I'm told by my friends who were on lockdown that they found the guy and the lockdown has been lifted. Apparently he was at home. Either way, big relief for me.

utick

1 dead 5 injured cops captured suspect in mothers apartment

Sofaspud

RMD wrote: »

Not 100% sure on this, but I'm pretty postive the Swiss have gun possesion statistics similar to the Americans

Then why do the army use those little knives?

Swiss army guns would be so much cooler!

Mr. Presentable

mikom wrote: »

Too busy making cuckoo clocks and qualifying for soccer tournaments at our expense to have time for shooting sprees.

Cuckoo clocks are from The Black Forest in Germany.

Overheal

MagicMarker wrote: »

..... and again!!

Ok.

I bet nobody has been shooting anybody else anywhere else.


I really don't get what point you're trying to make here. CNN covering domestic gun violence? *shock*

Do I need to google limerick shooting again? Cos I will.

Mr. Presentable

Canada is only 8th on the list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership

Mr. Presentable

And 6th on the list of deaths

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

mikom

mikom wrote: »

Too busy making cuckoo clocks and qualifying for soccer tournaments at our expense to have time for shooting sprees.

nipplenuts wrote: »

Cuckoo clocks are from The Black Forest in Germany.

I was referencing "The Third Man".

Mr. Presentable

mikom wrote: »

I was referencing "The Third Man".

Which is set in Austria.................

utick

nipplenuts wrote: »

And 6th on the list of deaths

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

what i gather from that list is n. ireland is the world leader in firearms homicides by a long shot. maybe we should ask nicely to stop using guns for homicides

Guy:Incognito

metaoblivia wrote: »

, so there will be some interesting family chats in the days to come!

Especially if it turns out your brother is the shooter.:)

jackpalance wrote: »

What are those Americans playing at?

Army.

metaoblivia

Stekelly wrote: »

Especially if it turns out your brother is the shooter.:)

Why would my brother be the shooter? The shooter was a former disgruntled employee of the office, not an employee of government services. My brother was on scene doing his job as an emergency responder...

VinnyTGM

America is really and trully fcuked.

Jumpy

Whats an Orlando?

Overheal

VinnyTGM wrote: »

America is really and trully fcuked.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62881122&postcount=43


Though I dont blame you for missing that thread. Funny how such topics are dropped like a brick once someone comes in to widely discredit inane comments, such as the above by VinnyTGM.

TheZohanS

VinnyTGM wrote: »

America is really and trully fcuked.

Tone it down.

Cunny-Funt

Overheal wrote: »

Ok.

I bet nobody has been shooting anybody else anywhere else.


I really don't get what point you're trying to make here. CNN covering domestic gun violence? *shock*

Do I need to Google limerick shooting again? Cos I will.

If every shooting that happens in the US had a thread here boards would need its own forum for it, we're talking about nut jobs going on shooting sprees. Not gangland shootings.

Yeah it happens in other countries, but if I was a betting man I'd bet that the next 1st world country to pull one of these things again would be the US.

Its just the way Americans are. Theres a reason the GTA games are based in the US, GTA Sweden would be pretty boring.

Spore

nipplenuts wrote: »

Which is set in Austria.................

[Zither]Owned![/Zither]

Overheal

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

we're talking about nut jobs going on shooting sprees.

No if we were talking about that, this would be in the Psychology or Expand your Horizons forum and we'd actually be tackling the question. Instead a news article has been tacked up for posters to draw mustaches onto.

Killing sprees are not tied to one incident or one country. Why should we revolve the issue around one incident in one place?

If you wish to really discuss that matter start a new Thread and I'd gladly join you.

SEPT 23 1989

i would say its the heat

Overheal

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

i would say its the heat

Well I wouldnt deny the Humidity down in Florida is unbearable to the point of crazy sometimes id like to think its something more substantial than that. Florida is a hot spot (-pun) for gun violence. And hatecrime for that matter. I sincerely doubt its any one factor though im sure the top 3 are Education, Economy and Gun Control. But then guns arent always a factor. I've been 2 friend/family connections apart from a guy who got himself and his cat beat to death by his landlord - using a claw hammer. Write that down in the top 50 of Worst Ways to Go.

rossie1977

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

i would say its the heat

the heat?? it was 26c in orlando today, thats the same as tenerife

when i was in orlando last year in april twice the temperatures went into the mid teens and cloudy (twas great because nobody was riding the water rides in universal, no queues )

Overheal

rossie1977 wrote: »

the heat?? it was 78.8 in orlando today, thats the same as tenerife

when i was in orlando last year in april twice the temperatures went into the 60s and cloudy (twas great because nobody was riding the water rides in universal, no queues )

FYP.

You see, you're going in April. And November. Try August and get back to me.

TheZohanS

Overheal wrote: »

FYP.

You see, you're going in April. And November. Try August and get back to me.

78.8? I don't speak spanish!

rossie1977

Overheal wrote: »

FYP.

You see, you're going in April. And November. Try August and get back to me.

been there in july too, i don't find orlando too bad heat wise, its a city like vegas equipped to deal with heat with airconditioning in even the crappiest motels and those water sprayers everywhere and of course pools, now 100 degrees+ in somewhere like san francisco or paris (where i was on the hottest day in both cities history june 2000 and august 2003) is a freaking nightmare

mikom

mikom wrote: »

Too busy making cuckoo clocks and qualifying for soccer tournaments at our expense to have time for shooting sprees.

nipplenuts wrote: »

Cuckoo clocks are from The Black Forest in Germany.

mikom wrote: »

I was referencing "The Third Man".

nipplenuts wrote: »

Which is set in Austria.................

Here, I'll get rid of that for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv1QDlWbS8g

Come back next week for part two..... where we discuss the movie Leprechaun containing a mythical Irish character, but is set in the USA.
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poisonated

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

Theres a reason the GTA games are based in the US, .

There is GTA London.

Orlando is a really nice place.I think one thing that is really sad about this is that Orlando is supposed to be a kids paradise and then this happens.I hope it wasn't near Disney world and that no kids saw it happen.

Overheal

rossie1977 wrote: »

been there in july too, i don't find orlando too bad heat wise, its a city like vegas equipped to deal with heat with airconditioning in even the crappiest motels and those water sprayers everywhere and of course pools, now 100 degrees+ in somewhere like san francisco or paris (where i was on the hottest day in both cities history june 2000 and august 2003) is a freaking nightmare

Yeah but away from Splash Mountain and The Hulk did you actually walk very long down a city street?

bigeasyeah

Overheal wrote: »

Yeah but away from Splash Mountain and The Hulk did you actually walk very long down a city street?

I did during a summer there-it was fine.The only thing I murdered was a cold bottle of beer.

Overheal

Alright then,

Guns
Knives
Claw Hammers
Education
Weather
Funny Hats
Border Control
Walt Disney


Next!

Manic Moran

MagicMarker wrote: »

A little perspective is needed also...

Canadian Population - 33,000,000
American Population - 300,000,000

But yes I do agree this never happens in Canada!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawson_College_shooting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_University_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OC_Transpo#April_6_1999:_Deadly_rampage

Swiss army guns would be so much cooler!

Like this?

http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/images/redneck_swiss_army_gun.jpg

Actually, I own a SIG rifle. Very nice firearm.

NTM

Overheal

Dont forget http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre

Actually reading some of these articles is really depressing me. Im done here.

Manic Moran

Overheal wrote: »

Dont forget http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre

Actually reading some of these articles is really depressing me. Im done here.

Not Canada.

Overheal

Manic Moran wrote: »

Not Canada.

oh I thought we were doing the European thing again. wrong thread.

Captain Furball

MagicMarker wrote: »

..... and again!!

Breaking on CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/orlando.shootings/index.html

Orlando, Florida (CNN) -- At least seven people with serious gunshot wounds were brought out of an Orlando, Florida, office building Friday, a spokeswoman with the city fire department said.
A gunman was at large after firefighters and police responded to the report of a shooting at a high-rise building, said John Tormos of the Orlando Fire Department.

A spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Office, which is helping the city police department, said investigators are looking for a man wearing a blue Polo shirt, gray vest and blue jeans.
"We're in a search mode for the gunman," said Jim Solomons, a spokesman for the sheriff's office.
Are you there? Send your stories, photos and videos

CNN affiliate WESH said the shooting occurred at the Gateway Center -- a 16-story building near Lake Ivanhoe and Interstate 4.
The interstate was closed in both directions near the office building, according to the Florida Department of Transportation Web site.

How many carbon credits is that?

Cunny-Funt

poisonated wrote: »

There is GTA London.

Which was forgettable.

& lol @ the americans trawling through the internet trying to find shootings in Europe as if it some how the alters the fact that this is a massive massive problem in America. I mean this is the 2nd one THIS WEEK in the US, "Zomg look, one happened in Scotland 13 years, so its okay...we're not any worse then anyone else... now excuse me while I go play with my guns."

Manic Moran

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

& lol @ the americans trawling through the internet trying to find shootings in Europe as if it some how the alters the fact that this is a massive massive problem in America. I mean this is the 2nd one THIS WEEK in the US, "Zomg look, one happened in Scotland 13 years, so its okay...we're not any worse then anyone else... now excuse me while I go play with my guns."

With the one exception of Dunblane (countered by the one exception of Colombine), all my examples were post-2000. For the record, I didn't need to trawl the Internet for the incidents, I tend to keep abreast of such things. If you are unaware of such incidents in Europe, that's your problem. Everyone's heard of Virginia Tech. How many people have heard of Erfurt? It's not a new problem, it goes back years at least to the start of modern media in the 1960s. Again, I think it's a perception issue. The name 'Charles Whitman' is one which rings bells amongst many people, even if they don't know why. But we've all seen footage from U-Texas, Austin 1966 on the History Channel of people scrambling for cover out of line of fire of the bell tower. Nobody was around to film Seifert (and yes, even I had to look up his name) when he used his flamethrower to kill eight children, one teacher, and stabbed a second to death in a Cologne elementary school in 1964. Probably a large reason almost nobody's heard of the incident even though, in modern terms, both are about the same age and, frankly, I think the German one was far more brutal.

You may be correct that the US has a problem of people who snap and kill at random. If so, it is a problem which is shared by Europe, Canada, and probably a bunch of other countries we never hear about.

Now, excuse me, while I go play with my guns. At least I acknowledge the issue.

NTM

Nodin

This was one guy, subsequently caught.......Barely a peep of reportage in Europe by comparison....

Six members of a single family were found stabbed to death in a partially burned-out apartment in Rishon Lezion on Saturday morning, in a multiple homicide that has left the country reeling from the scope and brutality of the murders.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255694827197&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull

Bad people do bad things, usually with whats to hand....blaming the tool is a bit of a dead end.