GAMSAT UK results in the Morning!

liberal

Nervous!!! :eek:

TinTin09

In the same boat, not expecting any miracles tbh I would be happy with 45+ given the amount of preparation I put in and since I only treated it as a practice run for march. Anyone else want to make predictions about their results tomorrow??

liberal

im going to say between 55 and 65 eeekkk

vinylqueen

haha deliberately left all my seminar work for tomorrow til now to do so i'd be distracted but clearly that strategy hasn't worked! so nervous.

said from the beginning that i was doing it as a trial run and meant it but think i've almost certainly disgraced myself esp in sII and III. keep having dreams with numbers floating around... 12 being the worst so far so anything above that then should be a pleasant surprise!

liberal

wow, have to admitt ive had a few dreams aswell :rolleyes:

best of luck y'all, im going to try get some sleep......

GradMed

Best of luck everyone.

p.s try to get some sleep:)

blackbetty69

what do you need the gamsat for? i did the ukcat.. is gamsat for mature students or what?

MedGal

It's needed for graduate entry medicine to Irish med schools, some UK and Australian too.

liberal

i got 60, which is a **** result cause it means ill have 2 so it again to be sure to be sure

MicraBoy

Well done liberal. I got 61 so in the same boat. Although I think this gives us real confidence for the Irish one!

TinTin09

I got 55:D

jenga-jen

I got 61 so I'm definitely taking it again, just to be sure!

liberal

where ya all hoping 2 go?

MicraBoy

I'm Dublin based so have a pref for RCSI, then UCD.

liberal

TinTin09 wrote: »

I got 55:D

ur not far off there tintin, my friend did the same last year, kinda went in as a tester, he got 54 in ireland last time, he did it with me in the uk this year havnt heard from him yet

TinTin09

Well fingers crossed for march, I got

S1 60
S2 62
S3 48
Overall 55


Well at least from doing the GAMSAT UK I have a good advantage for March, I know the areas I need to work on.

ProfessorBatman

Got 58 last march and 60 this time around, so yes, I'll be doing it again in March. I know the numbers were up for the 2009 course so I'll be interested to see what the numbers are like in March. If the numbers go down well then the points should go down or stay the same.

MicraBoy

ProfessorBatman wrote: »

Got 58 last march and 60 this time around, so yes, I'll be doing it again in March. I know the numbers were up for the 2009 course so I'll be interested to see what the numbers are like in March. If the numbers go down well then the points should go down or stay the same.

The RCSI is holding a second open day in January for Grad Med due to the level of interest. I doubt the numbers are going to go down next year, although more people doing it doesn't necessarily mean better candidates and higher points.

liberal

ProfessorBatman wrote: »

Got 58 last march and 60 this time around, so yes, I'll be doing it again in March. I know the numbers were up for the 2009 course so I'll be interested to see what the numbers are like in March. If the numbers go down well then the points should go down or stay the same.

58 would of got UL?

TinTin09

hey liberal, how did your friend get on who got 54 in march?

liberal

TinTin09 wrote: »

hey liberal, how did your friend get on who got 54 in march?

59 he's happy enough

imported_guy

there was someone in these forums who came up with an explaination (a very logical one) on why numbers will be going down in the next few years

- galway GEM programme, and maybe trinity
- more GEM places around the country in places like UCC, UCD, UL etc
- less people applying for GAMSAT because not alot of people know about graduate entry medicine yet, and cant be bothered doing it all again (as compared to people wanting to do it from LC)
- alot of people who wanted to do it and were waiting for years, would already have goten in, so there will be less competition in the next few years, and after that things will get leveled, as GAMSAT and graduate entry gets more interest/exposiure

neurodegenerate

Reasons as to why points are unlikely to come down:

• Galway GEM does not look likely to be introduced, and Trinity have no intention of introducing GEM
• Class sizes have not been increased - they were meant to but they still haven't been so you can't bank on them increasing
• Anyone interested in doing medicine would be aware of the gamsat. This is its third year so that arguement has worn away, if anything people are more aware of it than ever
• There are still all the people who didn't get it at LC, went to college and are currently finishing up who want to do medicine. And there are those who have graduated and just haven't gotten a good gamsat score yet
• But the most important factor to be considered is the economy. With cutbacks left right and centre, increasing postgrad medical places certainly is not a priority. With the unemployment figures likely to increase, there is a massive pool of people considering their options. A medical degree practically guarantees a secure future. We saw already an increase in points this year, and I have no doubt they will continue to do so. Don't get me wrong, I would love them to go down!!!

imported_guy wrote: »

there was someone in these forums who came up with an explaination (a very logical one) on why numbers will be going down in the next few years

- galway GEM programme, and maybe trinity
- more GEM places around the country in places like UCC, UCD, UL etc
- less people applying for GAMSAT because not alot of people know about graduate entry medicine yet, and cant be bothered doing it all again (as compared to people wanting to do it from LC)
- alot of people who wanted to do it and were waiting for years, would already have goten in, so there will be less competition in the next few years, and after that things will get leveled, as GAMSAT and graduate entry gets more interest/exposiure

MicraBoy

neurodegenerate wrote: »

Reasons as to why points are unlikely to come down:

• Galway GEM does not look likely to be introduced, and Trinity have no intention of introducing GEM
• Class sizes have not been increased - they were meant to but they still haven't been so you can't bank on them increasing
• Anyone interested in doing medicine would be aware of the gamsat. This is its third year so that arguement has worn away, if anything people are more aware of it than ever
• There are still all the people who didn't get it at LC, went to college and are currently finishing up who want to do medicine. And there are those who have graduated and just haven't gotten a good gamsat score yet
• But the most important factor to be considered is the economy. With cutbacks left right and centre, increasing postgrad medical places certainly is not a priority. With the unemployment figures likely to increase, there is a massive pool of people considering their options. A medical degree practically guarantees a secure future. We saw already an increase in points this year, and I have no doubt they will continue to do so. Don't get me wrong, I would love them to go down!!!

I'd tend to agree with neurodegenerate on this. The only thing I'd point out is that UCD are planning to increase the number of places to 55 in 2010. That is on the cards unless something goes wrong funding wise (always a possibility in the current climate).

neurodegenerate

MicraBoy wrote: »

I'd tend to agree with neurodegenerate on this. The only thing I'd point out is that UCD are planning to increase the number of places to 55 in 2010. That is on the cards unless something goes wrong funding wise (always a possibility in the current climate).

Would love if UCD increased the places! But UCD have an employment freeze at the moment, so I wouldn't be betting that they will increase places. I think it's unlikely. Ps well done on your 61! That's really fantastic. I got 59 and delighted with it! Wasn't expecting it at all, I thought I did pretty badly. Hopefully will be enough for... anywhere!!!:D

imported_guy

neurodegenerate wrote: »

Reasons as to why points are unlikely to come down:

• Galway GEM does not look likely to be introduced, and Trinity have no intention of introducing GEM
• Class sizes have not been increased - they were meant to but they still haven't been so you can't bank on them increasing
• Anyone interested in doing medicine would be aware of the gamsat. This is its third year so that arguement has worn away, if anything people are more aware of it than ever
• There are still all the people who didn't get it at LC, went to college and are currently finishing up who want to do medicine. And there are those who have graduated and just haven't gotten a good gamsat score yet
• But the most important factor to be considered is the economy. With cutbacks left right and centre, increasing postgrad medical places certainly is not a priority. With the unemployment figures likely to increase, there is a massive pool of people considering their options. A medical degree practically guarantees a secure future. We saw already an increase in points this year, and I have no doubt they will continue to do so. Don't get me wrong, I would love them to go down!!!

i didnt come up with it i just couldnt find where i read it, and he was saying 3 to 5 years, not right now, he said right now they probably will stay the same rather than go up or down, but there will be a fall in the next few years before there is a rise in applicants, which is pretty logical if people who were waiting to do medicine already get in, and there arent that many who want to do it, people who will go on to do it is someone who has had interest in medicine for a long time


galway is confirmed for 2010 btw

But the most important factor to be considered is the economy. With cutbacks left right and centre, increasing postgrad medical places certainly is not a priority. With the unemployment figures likely to increase, there is a massive pool of people considering their options. A medical degree practically guarantees a secure future. We saw already an increase in points this year, and I have no doubt they will continue to do so. Don't get me wrong, I would love them to go down!!!

alot of people will be put off by the fee, considiering the 12k/year + expenses (and they wont have a job anymore), it is a 4 year course, and a year of internship, a loan will be the only option for the fee etc (unless your super rich), and they will be consdiering things like "if i dont make it i still have to pay the loan"

so when thinking about GEM, a person has to be 100% motivated to doing medicine, and 110% dedicated




there will always be arguments for/against points going up and down just like there are in the LC, i just thought that explantion fitted the most

MicraBoy

imported_guy wrote:

galway is confirmed for 2010 btw

Don't think that's true unforunately

imported_guy

MicraBoy wrote: »

Don't think that's true unforunately

http://www.nuigalway.ie/medicine/

Our College is currently expanding the undergraduate medical intake, implementing an exciting new curriculum, and we hope to offer graduate entry courses in medicine from 2010.

MicraBoy

imported_guy wrote: »

http://www.nuigalway.ie/medicine/

Yeah but the latest is that it is not happening - from what I'm reading on the newmediamedicine.com forums.

Probably best to keep our eyes peeled on the NUIG website for updates.

ProfessorBatman

liberal wrote: »

58 would of got UL?

Yup. I only put down the Dublin courses last year, for various reasons. I'll be applying everywhere this time. 60 should be enough, but I'll do it again in March just to try for a few more points. I'm 28 now, so I'm not waiting another year.

On the point of Galway. That would be great. Firstly because there'd be more places, secondly because I love Galway.

ProfessorBatman

ProfessorBatman wrote: »

. I'm 28 now, so I'm not waiting another year.

Out of interest... what age range are the rest ye?

imported_guy

ProfessorBatman wrote: »

Out of interest... what age range are the rest ye?

i'll be 22 when going in, 30+ is pretty common in america, 40+ isnt unheard of, and sub 20 is unheard of as well, i would say the same trends follow here as well


and on the NUIG note, if it comes around i would expect the points to be lower than UL, and it was supposed to be starting this year but didnt happen, even if it isnt around this year when ever it comes, points will go down


any figures of people applying vs places? somewhere i heard there are 80 places but im hearing contradictions that there are 120/140 places

vinylqueen

i'll be 27 for 2010 entry (although i appear to have replaced 'results fear' with 'no of applicants/curve fear') so who knows! my younger sister is doing RCSI GEP at the moment and seems there's a good range of ages with her which is reassuring.

ucd's increase was confirmed by them on one of the boards a short while ago which should ease things a little and i think it's probably only a matter of time before trinity & NUIG come on stream with GEP too (even though the former says they won't do it, if nothing else it's a good money spinner for them so i'd imagine it will happen eventually). it'll be interesting to see how things look after march.

MicraBoy

I'm gonna be 32 come September 2010.........*reaches for zimmerframe*

TinTin09

I am 22, tbh I dont care if I have to take the GAMSAT a few times to get in.

gordonmedques

am an old man. 32.

ProfessorBatman

vinylqueen wrote: »

ucd's increase was confirmed by them on one of the boards a short while ago

Where'd you find that? That'd be great.

etymon

I am 25... will be 26 next September

neurodegenerate

I will be 23 when I begin! Just got confirmation from NUI Galway that gem won't be going ahead there next year, unlikely for the year after either. Damn!:(

MicraBoy

ProfessorBatman wrote: »

Where'd you find that? That'd be great.

Linky

Prime Mover

mmm... not sure about that.... I think UCD would announce it on their website rather than on a UK based forum at 2.54 AM?

vinylqueen

haha! time to put on our detective hats?!

i just took it at face value. after all they may just have put in the wrong time setting when they signed up, i never check that kind of thing! colleges can be notoriously slow to update sites as well, particularly if somethings been decided which won't affect the majority of applicants til after march. someone pretending to be them seems somewhat unlikely...

MicraBoy

Prime Mover wrote: »

mmm... not sure about that.... I think UCD would announce it on their website rather than on a UK based forum at 2.54 AM?

Well to start the site is New Zealand based so that was the time in NZ.

Secondly it is a very popular forum with people sitting GAMSAT in both the UK and Ireland (in fact the whole world). RCSI announced their open day on it also.

Thirdly the relevent post basically tells you to look at the UCD website for confirmation, but they hope and plan to offer 55 places in 2010.

Prime Mover

I didn't know it was New Zealand based. It used to be called medschoolguide.co.uk years ago. Showing my age now...

It still is bizarre that they would post there without updating their own website.

I guess I have seen so much rubbish written on boards about getting into medicine that if it wasn't on the college site I wouldn't believe it.

MicraBoy

In fairness there is a huge amount of BS on that forum too. That's really more of a heads up I think. I won't take it as confirmed until its in black and white on the UCD GEP homepage. For the moment it's as close to a guarantee of satisfaction as we're gonna get

liberal

I'm 22,

Until I hear it from the horses mouth I'm presuming GEM NUIG 2010 is not happening and that UCD will not expand capacity

liberal

My predtictions for 2010 cut offs, mainly for the laf

RCSI 62
UCD 60
UCC 60
UL 58

imported_guy

RCSI 61
UCD 60
UCC 58
UL 57

final round will be sub 60 for all of them i would say

vinylqueen

hmm... i've been sitting here trying to figure it out with pass maths and scaring myself, but lets presume the applications go up by 150 people to approx 800 (which i think is a conservative estimate). top 20% of that is 160 people (not including UK applicants and people who are using scores from last year). yes, a small number of people won't get 2.1s or be finished college yet etc but if the number of places doesn't go up it would be closer to top 15% get in surely? also a bit unnerved how in the UK i was approx in the 87th percentile whereas going by the irish curve i'd have been 95th percentile last year. that's a big difference and i genuinely don't know now if i need to sit it again in march. we're gonna end up going mad before september!

that said i sincerely hope you're both right and this time next year all this worry seems ridiculous

liberal

vinylqueen wrote: »

hmm... i've been sitting here trying to figure it out with pass maths and scaring myself, but lets presume the applications go up by 150 people to approx 800 (which i think is a conservative estimate). top 20% of that is 160 people (not including UK applicants and people who are using scores from last year). yes, a small number of people won't get 2.1s or be finished college yet etc but if the number of places doesn't go up it would be closer to top 15% get in surely? also a bit unnerved how in the UK i was approx in the 87th percentile whereas going by the irish curve i'd have been 95th percentile last year. that's a big difference and i genuinely don't know now if i need to sit it again in march. we're gonna end up going mad before september!

that said i sincerely hope you're both right and this time next year all this worry seems ridiculous

You got 67 didnt you? Your a shoe-in with that, the highest ever, anywhere is 62

liberal

imported_guy wrote: »

RCSI 61
UCD 60
UCC 58
UL 57

final round will be sub 60 for all of them i would say

did u notice that on CAO website that the points listed along with all other courses is 60 for rcsi but the seperate section for just gem says rcsi was 61