the Crowe brothers

Fuinseog

why are the Crowes the people everyone loves to hate? is it down to their political affiliation?
personally i think Micheal crowe is one of the shrewdest politicans in our city.

mikom

Because two Crowes together are a murder waiting to happen.

Fuinseog

I see, i am not too familiar with their policies, but I suspect their conservatism is the cause of their unpopularity, at least with younger people.

KevR

Can think of a few politicians I hate a lot more...

dec25532

This is taken from another forum

"Interesting to note that the tables have turned on Councillor MIchael Crowe with regard to his "holier than thou" attitude when he recently attacked Councillor BIlly Cameron's expenses claim. I recall that he stated in local media that Cameron's bahaviour was bringing negative press to all councillors. However, note the latest - Mail on Sunday,3rd November, page 10 & 11 "The Councillors who claim to be two places at the one time". Our "ethical standard settting" Couincillor Crowe features.....he has been feathering his nest, while all the time throwing s...t at Cameroon. Seems Crowe claimed €410 for going to Mayo, returning at 6pm but has the amazing ability to have set out for Clare at 2pm on the same day, claiming €551. His excuse is hilarous-check it out!"

Des Hynes

No real policies of note, will fly anyway for popularity..power hungry..

McTigs

dec25532 wrote: »

His excuse is hilarous-check it out!"

Link?

i can't stand Crowe, i've never come across anybody so painfully self righteous. He's always in the paper "Calling for" this and "Condeming" that and generally soapboxing about anything that might gain him some reason to be around. Having said that he'll probably rise up through the ranks of FF and make a very good living out of it.

Webbs

Fuinseog wrote: »

why are the Crowes the people everyone loves to hate? is it down to their political affiliation?
personally i think Micheal crowe is one of the shrewdest politicans in our city.

I would say that yes it possibly is down to their political affiliation as if you want to side with a political party that has a long history of incredible corruption, cronyism etc than you have to accept you are going to be tarred with the same brush regardless of your abilities as a politician.
I personally think that Micheal is just a bandwagon jumper who has no real care for his constituents and just wants to tub thump on causes he thinks will get him votes.

snubbleste

I agree with Webbs

Something does not add up to me,
maybe the Crowes will demand transparency and openness in areas of conflict with the City Council ie. do they have inside knowledge on social housing and buy up investment properties, do the clampers not clamp their cars on Bohermore etc.


Also Michael Crowe hates trees.

Rylan

He used to train me in rowing for the Bish and to be honest I found him to be dead sound. That was 15/16yrs ago mind.

galvianlord

he's definitely positioning himself to take frank fahey's seat....

fahey's power base in the city has been wiped out by the Crowe's gains....they are firmly in the O'Cuiv camp....

I would think Michael J Crowe will be in the Dail before long....who knew there were so many votes in Bohermore...

nerophis

It's a funny thing how low Fianna Fail have gone in public opinion- a very funny thing. A lot of the dislike for Mike Crowe seems to stem from one being FF and two being in the paper every second week saying this or that (that nobody else cares about) is a disgrace. I would guess despite family tradition he chose FF, after originally being independent, because it would traditionally be the easiest route to the bigger stage and secondly he's in the paper every week to make sure everyone knows who he is. For a guy not in the game too long he's got a lot of name recognition in the city. He's being a politician- hate him for that if you like.

Like it or not having a potential government TD in the city is to the gain of most residents here. Frank Fahey or Eamonn O (the only time I've time I've seen him in town was looking like some forgotten scarecrow in shop street during the Lisbon referendum) have done as little as possible for the city and looking at some of the problems here it might be better if one or both of them slung their hook. Noel Grealish- what's he ever done except dither about what party to follow?

What's good for Galway City is almost without exception good for the County. The contrary doesn't run true.

Fair play to Mike or Ollie Crowe if they make it to the next level- Galway City is forgotten as it stands politically.

Fuinseog

Des Hynes wrote: »

No real policies of note, will fly anyway for popularity..power hungry..

what politican isn't? he is eager to make his mark. he is young enoughas well. a lot of the city fathers are getting on.
is he hardworking?
i rememeber when crowe was independent. he had the novel idea of putting in writing pads in the door. the pads had his picture on them, so he is one of the most easy to recognise politicans in galway.

do you think he has avieved anything or is he just spouting out what he thinks the electorate want to hear like Enda kenny?

Fuinseog

McTigs wrote: »

Link?

i can't stand Crowe, i've never come across anybody so painfully self righteous. He's always in the paper "Calling for" this and "Condeming" that and generally soapboxing about anything that might gain him some reason to be around. .

isn't that what most politicans do?

Fuinseog

Also Michael Crowe hates trees.[/quote]

so he's not a tree hugger. the place could do with a bit more greenery. what was his stance on the polluted water?

Des Hynes

Fuinseog wrote: »

what politican isn't? he is eager to make his mark. he is young enoughas well. a lot of the city fathers are getting on.
is he hardworking?
i rememeber when crowe was independent. he had the novel idea of putting in writing pads in the door. the pads had his picture on them, so he is one of the most easy to recognise politicans in galway.

do you think he has avieved anything or is he just spouting out what he thinks the electorate want to hear like Enda kenny?

Michael D for one.

No policies that I know of , also at the last local elections had removed Fianna Fail from his posters as they weren't flavour of the month.

McTigs

Fuinseog wrote: »

what was his stance on the polluted water?

If i remember correctly, his response on the Galway Bay fm during the water crises was to have a cheap shot at Niall O'Brolchan

"and where's our supposed green mayor while all this is going on?" or something to that effect

In fairness, say what you like about Niall, it was hardly his fault

Owldshtok

Fuinseog wrote: »

why are the Crowes the people everyone loves to hate? is it down to their political affiliation?
personally i think Micheal crowe is one of the shrewdest politicans in our city.

Wheather it's the Crowe brothers or the Connolly sisters it can't be good to have two members of the same immediate family being city councillors at the same time,thereby giving their immediate constituency/area unfair influence.I wonder if any of these voted against their brother or sister on any of the crucial issues affecting Galway? or if they are likely to

Fuinseog

Des Hynes wrote: »

Michael D for one.

No policies that I know of , also at the last local elections had removed Fianna Fail from his posters as they weren't flavour of the month.

you don't hear Michael D. banging on about much these days. he has had his day and probably wants to retire in peace. The crowes however are about making a name for themselves.

Fuinseog

McTigs wrote: »

If i remember correctly, his response on the Galway Bay fm during the water crises was to have a cheap shot at Niall O'Brolchan

"and where's our supposed green mayor while all this is going on?" or something to that effect

In fairness, say what you like about Niall, it was hardly his fault

true,the problem had existed for years and was only being spoken about by 'treehuggers'. but what did our Dubliner mayor do? if I remember correctly there wasn't a peep out of him.

Madame Razz

McTigs wrote: »

Link?

i can't stand Crowe, i've never come across anybody so painfully self righteous. He's always in the paper "Calling for" this and "Condeming" that and generally soapboxing about anything that might gain him some reason to be around. Having said that he'll probably rise up through the ranks of FF and make a very good living out of it.

To be fair you could say exactly the same about Padraig 'Outraged' Conneely who seems to spend most of his day on a soapbox with a camera to capture the moment. I'd love to know how many photographers that man has on speed-dial:rolleyes:

kraggy

Being sound is not what a politician needs to be. That's what has this country up the creek at this moment in time.

If Michael Crowe ever gets elected in the General Election, this country deserves all the misery it gets.

McTigs

Fuinseog wrote: »

you don't hear Michael D. banging on about much these days. he has had his day and probably wants to retire in peace. The crowes however are about making a name for themselves.

Micheal D never "banged on".

Micheal D is one one of the very few honorable politicians this city or indeed the country has seen in recent decades. An intelligent man and a man of integrity who wasn't afraid to speak up and have the courage of his convictions when it came to matters of genuine importance be it the proposed development of Ceant Station or irelands assistance in the war in afganistan.

If we can look forward to him being replaced by Micheal "i'm sick of trees" Crowe it's pretty sorry state of affairs to be perfectly honest.

Des Hynes

McTigs wrote: »

Micheal D never "banged on".

Micheal D is one one of the very few honorable politicians this city or indeed the country has seen in recent decades. An intelligent man and a man of integrity who wasn't afraid to speak up and have the courage of his convictions when it came to matters of genuine importance be it the proposed development of Ceant Station or irelands assistance in the war in afganistan.

If we can look forward to him being replaced by Micheal "i'm sick of trees" Crowe it's pretty sorry state of affairs to be perfectly honest.

Amen, Micheal D is a legend, cheap shots are below the belt.

Bosco boy

They remind me of the "Grimes brothers" (Twins), not a lot of talent, loads of neck and plenty backing. They could go all the way!!!! Just what the country needs!!!

Fuinseog

kraggy wrote: »

Being sound is not what a politician needs to be. That's what has this country up the creek at this moment in time.

If Michael Crowe ever gets elected in the General Election, this country deserves all the misery it gets.

michael is a hardworker and original, personally I would vote for him unless someone here can provide a credible arguement to the contrary.

Fuinseog

Des Hynes wrote: »

Amen, Micheal D is a legend, cheap shots are below the belt.

I wouldn't say I am making cheap shots about michael D. he has had his day. a new generation is emerging. i seriously doubt he would want to stand again for election.

snubbleste

Fuinseog wrote: »

I wouldn't say I am making cheap shots about michael D. he has had his day. a new generation is emerging. i seriously doubt he would want to stand again for election.

Eh, he has publicly stated that he will be standing again for the Dáil

mike kelly

Don't be surprised if Ollie makes it as a TD before Mike. Ollie is much more approachable and is very well liked by many.

Fuinseog

mike kelly wrote: »

Don't be surprised if Ollie makes it as a TD before Mike. Ollie is much more approachable and is very well liked by many.

i haven't seen Ollie in over 30 years. i knew him when he was in the mercy. he was a bit of a chancer back then, but liked by all.

McTigs

Fuinseog wrote: »

i haven't seen Ollie in over 30 years. i knew him when he was in the mercy. he was a bit of a chancer back then, but liked by all.

well standard fianna fail fare right there so

a new generation of cute hoors coming through, who said the country was ****ed?

Mr.Mago

The Crowes were elected fair and square and thats as simple as that. Fahey and his people didnt want Mike and Ollie to be elected but they were. They worked on their with their own people without any help from the Fianna Fail party it just showed when the results of the local elections came out. The Crowes are great representation of Galway City Centre and the Eastside (Renmore,Ballybane,Terryland,Doughiska etc) of the City as well. The people who voted for Mike and Ollie are no clowns and the local elections will showed this. Hopefully Mike or Ollie will soon be in Dail Eireann..

ErnieBert

Mr.Mago wrote: »

The Crowes were elected fair and square and thats as simple as that. Fahey and his people didnt want Mike and Ollie to be elected but they were. They worked on their with their own people without any help from the Fianna Fail party it just showed when the results of the local elections came out. The Crowes are great representation of Galway City Centre and the Eastside (Renmore,Ballybane,Terryland,Doughiska etc) of the City as well. The people who voted for Mike and Ollie are no clowns and the local elections will showed this. Hopefully Mike or Ollie will soon be in Dail Eireann..

John + Edward = Jedward

therefore

Mike + Ollie = Mollie

McTigs

Mr.Mago wrote: »

The people who voted for Mike and Ollie are no clowns ..

Anyone who votes Fianna Fail is a clown if you ask me

If the party were no help and the old school didn't want them elected, why did they run for them?

Webbs

mike kelly wrote: »

Don't be surprised if Ollie makes it as a TD before Mike. Ollie is much more approachable and is very well liked by many.

This is what is wrong with a huge part of Irish politics in that its the 'hes a nice fella' or 'he's one of the lads' sure lets vote him in (copyright a certain B Ahern)

I couldnt give a monkeys about whether the person is nice or not, what I want is for them to stand for something other than their own self interests, to be honorable in their position that we vote them in and take a long term view on Ireland not what can I do just to get my self voted back in.

There is far too much voting people in because they are from a certain family (because their grandfather was a good politician or some such nonsense), its political croneyism at its worst and until the Irish public decide to vote on issues and policies and not on personalities then there will always be corrupt self serving people in charge of this country (phew rant over)

snubbleste

Mr.Mago wrote: »

The Crowes were elected fair and square and thats as simple as that.

Are you Ollie or Mike?

McTigs

Webbs wrote: »

This is what is wrong with a huge part of Irish politics in that its the 'hes a nice fella' or 'he's one of the lads' sure lets vote him in (copyright a certain B Ahern)

I couldnt give a monkeys about whether the person is nice or not, what I want is for them to stand for something other than their own self interests, to be honorable in their position that we vote them in and take a long term view on Ireland not what can I do just to get my self voted back in.

There is far too much voting people in because they are from a certain family (because their grandfather was a good politician or some such nonsense), its political croneyism at its worst and until the Irish public decide to vote on issues and policies and not on personalities then there will always be corrupt self serving people in charge of this country (phew rant over)

Voters in this country are utterly stupid for the most part. Nobody sees the bigger picture, nobody votes for the intelligent candidate who might do something about steering the country in a progressive direction.... people will depressingly always vote for the "chancer" who sorted out potholes on the road outside their house or sorted planning permission for the brother in law.

That is the way and that will always be the way and that is why there will always be a Fianna Fail

mikom

Mr.Mago wrote: »

The Crowes were elected fair and square and thats as simple as that. They worked on their with their own people without any help from the Fianna Fail party it just showed when the results of the local elections came out. The Crowes are great representation of Galway City Centre and the Eastside (Renmore,Ballybane,Terryland,Doughiska etc) of the City as well. The people who voted for Mike and Ollie are no clowns and the local elections will showed this. Hopefully Mike or Ollie will soon be in Dail Eireann..

*Looks at username*

Ah I see now why you believe this.
Mr. Magoo of the cartoon fame is a guy who gets into a series of sticky situations as a result of his nearsightedness, or myopia, compounded by his stubborn refusal to admit the problem.
Makes sense.

axiom32

The Crowes were elected fair and square and thats as simple as that.

bull****, i have it on good authority that a few votes for ollie weren't as fair and square as u like to think, one guy managed to vote three times and was paid 300euro plus free drink on results night.

pity there wasn't a decent investigative journalist in this down who ya cud tell the facts too. We all hear these stories and do **** all with them and ill prob get a sanction for the above but i can't name names to back it up. Sure it may come out eventually as if ive heard it then others have too.
As stated above these people think its a old boys club and sure wasn't he the cute whore for doin it is the attitude they have which allows them to **** us over everytime. Bring the lights up as far as bohermore or is it just leading the way to crowes bar, self serving bastard.

ErnieBert

axiom32 wrote: »

The Crowes were elected fair and square and thats as simple as that.

bull****, i have it on good authority that a few votes for ollie weren't as fair and square as u like to think, one guy managed to vote three times and was paid 300euro plus free drink on results night.

pity there wasn't a decent investigative journalist in this down who ya cud tell the facts too. We all hear these stories and do **** all with them and ill prob get a sanction for the above but i can't name names to back it up. Sure it may come out eventually as if ive heard it then others have too.
As stated above these people think its a old boys club and sure wasn't he the cute whore for doin it is the attitude they have which allows them to **** us over everytime. Bring the lights up as far as bohermore or is it just leading the way to crowes bar, self serving bastard.

I really find this hard to believe. If it is true, and you can prove it, then you should sell the story to a tabloid. If you don't want the 10k that the likes of the Sun would pay you, then give it to charity.

mike kelly

axiom32 wrote: »

The Crowes were elected fair and square and thats as simple as that.

bull****, i have it on good authority that a few votes for ollie weren't as fair and square as u like to think, one guy managed to vote three times and was paid 300euro plus free drink on results night.

pity there wasn't a decent investigative journalist in this down who ya cud tell the facts too. We all hear these stories and do **** all with them and ill prob get a sanction for the above but i can't name names to back it up. Sure it may come out eventually as if ive heard it then others have too.
As stated above these people think its a old boys club and sure wasn't he the cute whore for doin it is the attitude they have which allows them to **** us over everytime. Bring the lights up as far as bohermore or is it just leading the way to crowes bar, self serving bastard.

300 euro for 2 illegal votes? Ollie only gave me a sixpack of stale Guinness.

mike kelly

McTigs wrote: »

Voters in this country are utterly stupid for the most part. Nobody sees the bigger picture, nobody votes for the intelligent candidate who might do something about steering the country in a progressive direction.... people will depressingly always vote for the "chancer" who sorted out potholes on the road outside their house or sorted planning permission for the brother in law.

That is the way and that will always be the way and that is why there will always be a Fianna Fail

So people who vote for Jackie Healey Rae are stupid? People should vote for candidates who look out for their local interests. Galway city needs representatives who are from the city and will put city interests first. I can't understand how any city person can vote for a redneck like Frank Fahey.

Webbs

mike kelly wrote: »

So people who vote for Jackie Healey Rae are stupid? People should vote for candidates who look out for their local interests. Galway city needs representatives who are from the city and will put city interests first. I can't understand how any city person can vote for a redneck like Frank Fahey.

Of course people can vote for who they want, though it will be interesting at the next election to see how Healey Raes' son gets on and whether the Irish voting system of 'my old fella was good so I'm bound to be as well' will carry on.

You obviously want a politician who will do what he can for the local area but this should not be a the expense of national issues, there are local council elections etc that should help with local issues.
If people had voted for politicians who actually knew what they were doing and not just good at repairing the pot hole in you road then maybe this country wouldnt be in the mess its in.
You cannot look at politics as a NIMBY you have to look at the wider issues

mike kelly

Webbs wrote: »

Of course people can vote for who they want, though it will be interesting at the next election to see how Healey Raes' son gets on and whether the Irish voting system of 'my old fella was good so I'm bound to be as well' will carry on.

You obviously want a politician who will do what he can for the local area but this should not be a the expense of national issues, there are local council elections etc that should help with local issues.
If people had voted for politicians who actually knew what they were doing and not just good at repairing the pot hole in you road then maybe this country wouldnt be in the mess its in.
You cannot look at politics as a NIMBY you have to look at the wider issues

All politics is local - Tip O'Neill

Webbs

mike kelly wrote: »

All politics is local - Tip O'Neill

Oh what wouldnt I give to have someone with half the political skill of O'Neill in the Dail, no one in the FF party is fit to tie the laces of someone like him.

I cant see the following eulogy applying to a fianna Fail TD or one of the Crowes can you!

President Bill Clinton said: "Tip O'Neill was the nation's most prominent, powerful and loyal champion of working people... He loved politics and government because he saw that politics and government could make a difference in people's lives. And he loved people most of all."

mike kelly

What's the odds on Ollie being in the next Dail?

kellyreilly

Mollie..:D

mike kelly

Mollie is a great name for them...hopefully it will catch on

McTigs

mike kelly wrote: »

Mollie is a great name for them...hopefully it will catch on

I hope so too.

I will certainly do everything i can do to popularise it, i'm not one to shirk my responsibilities.

mike kelly

McTigs wrote: »

I hope so too.

I will certainly do everything i can do to popularise it, i'm not one to shirk my responsibilities.

What do you plan to do?

McTigs

drop into conversation as often as possible.... a man of my popularity in many social circles should see this ingrained within a few weeks.

leave it with me