sheamus v noble, Sick Powerbomb

jayoo

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/raw/2009/november1-7/12411774

this is just a clip from wwe.com of Sheamus v jamie noble. Pure squash match, but the powerbomb at the end of the match outside the ring (skip to the end) is just brutal. To be honest sheamus had already destroyed noble with some impressive moves, a move that his powerbomb wasnt needed, to risky, cool to watch though :pac::pac::pac:

chopperbyrne

Be very surprised if Noble wasn't actually hurt after that. Stiff does not even begin to describe that.

bigeasyeah

I used to watch Sheamus on the Wrestling Channel.Its great he now on RAW.I think he s a great monster and his matches in ECW were perfect for showing off his strength.
I like to see how he would get on in a match with a bigger name.

Penn

Could anyone else hear some guy laughing incredibly hard throughout the end of that?

But yeah, that looked fairly brutal alright

flahavaj

The difference in Seamus the 2009 WWE guy and Seamus the IWW guy of 2002/3 is nothing short of spectacular. Back then he was absolutely terrible in just about every way possible. Fast forward 7 years and hes a pretty competent worker whos getting himself a very nice little push on the flagship show of the biggest company in thw world.

As for the powerbomb, gotta love that puro level stiffness.

Maith thu a Sheamuis.

*tripsi*

I heart sheamus!

DoireNod

Jaysus! That looked sore. Sheamus looks like a beast!

DM_7

Thats how you introduce a Guy to the RAW audience.

Fair play to Noble. I know he isn't on tv that much anymore but he buried himself there. Even when he let palumbo kick him around the place at least Jamie had a few wins against Palumbo to make himself look credible.

The WWE did a great job there. They used the time well, Sheamus' actions were in stark contrast to the "Fun" tone of the rest of the show.
The fact they kept coming back to what happened during the show made it feel more important.

The Camera angle used for the power bomb was really smart and helped it look brutal.

WWE are learning how to introduce guys, McIntyre looks a serious nutcase on smackdown, Yoshi Tatsu looks like a babyface with potential. Add that to the way they have introduced Bourne, Swagger and Kofi in the last two years WWE deserve more credit.

It goes to show if WWE recruit the rights guys to FCW and book them right when they call them up WWE will create some stars for the future.

Now all they need to do is get the Hart Dynasty on a roll.

paddyirishman85

paddyirishman85 wrote:

Could anyone else hear some guy laughing incredibly hard throughout the end of that?

Yeah he was saying "Hit 'em again big red!"
I thought it was classic.
Fair play to WWE, I think he would do well from a programme with Masters.
I thought when i saw Sheamus was on Raw "Not another waste."
But this has changed my opinion totally. He turned out to be the biggest heel on the night.

Diabhal Beag

Noble took it like a pro in fairness. Underused in the WWE. Love the push Seamus is getting now. Between himself and Drew Galloway IWW is well represented.

Rjd2

I assume its Primo next on the squash list for Big Red.

DM_7

Rjd2 wrote: »

I assume its Primo next on the squash list for Big Red.

How about carlito. I think Swagger buried Primo already.

flahavaj

Big Red.

Thats gonna DEFINITELY gonna stick.

flahavaj

DM-ICE wrote: »

How about carlito. I think Swagger buried Primo already.

If there was any justice it'd be Carlito. Waste of space.

Rjd2

DM-ICE wrote: »

How about carlito. I think Swagger buried Primo already.

Is Carlito not a heel right now? Primo jobs to EVERYONE sadly these days. :eek::( Santino is another likely victim.

DM_7

flahavaj wrote: »

If there was any justice it'd be Carlito. Waste of space.

True. The guy wasted some great chances. He got the US title on his debut, followed it by getting the IC title in his raw debut and got to "get it on" with trish and torrie on screen, competed in an elimination chamber match for the title. How could anyone mess up those oppertunities?

Go on Sheamus powerbomb him next.

cena

that looked so bad, big red looks like an animal. also way isn't noble on tv much anymore. i liked him a few years back.

Rjd2

cena wrote: »

l. also way isn't noble on tv much anymore. i liked him a few years back.

He is a road agent these days so at least he is getting some good money and he is meant to be pally with HBK and Hunter so he has a pretty secure job unlike other jobbers.

cena

glad to hear his doing good. what was the girl he use to try and impress by telling her was going to win this match and then loss.

DM_7

cena wrote: »

glad to hear his doing good. what was the girl he use to try and impress by telling her was going to win this match and then loss.

Layla?

flahavaj

DM-ICE wrote: »

True. The guy wasted some great chances. He got the US title on his debut, followed it by getting the IC title in his raw debut and got to "get it on" with trish and torrie on screen, competed in an elimination chamber match for the title. How could anyone mess up those oppertunities?

Go on Sheamus powerbomb him next.

Drop the f*cker on his head Big Red bah.

Tricity Bendix

DM-ICE wrote: »

Thats how you introduce a Guy to the RAW audience.

Reminded me of how they introduced Brock Lesnar.

Deleted User wrote: »

Fair play to WWE, I think he would do well from a programme with Masters.

No one has ever done well out of a programme with Masters.

G-Money

That Drew McIntyre guy sort of bores me, but not as much as Primo. I think the Primo v Carlito feud is one of the most un-interesting things I've ever seen on Raw.

SilverFox261

After seeing that powerbomb and the way they kept refering to it throughout the show It really looks like WWE want to give Sheamus a big push.

I heard somewhere that Sheamus is training on the road with HHH which might have contributed to his move from ECW to RAW. I was thinking that if HHH does get a heel turn towards the time of Wrestlemania, can anyone see Sheamus being paired up with HHH as the next Batista like figure?

Mr.Nice Guy

I didn't think the powerbomb was that bad tbh. I actually thought one of the kicks he gave to Noble looked worse. Anyway Noble put him over well.

Penn

Yeah fair play to Noble, he sold it like Ricky Roma

Looking forward to see who Sheamus starts with next

geeky

Fair play to Noble - whatever way you feel about him as a worker, he sold without any hesitation. The screaming in pain after SOS' backbreaker really brought heat.

Given that Noble is pally with trips, does anyone see the hand of the King of Kings behind this push?

flahavaj

It was the great camera angle that made the powerbomb look far more brutal tha it was. Those ringmats would be much easier to get powerbombed on than the ring canvas.

Rawm2008

Those ringmats would be much easier to get powerbombed on than the ring canvas.

I scream BULL****, the matts are an inch thick over concrete with NO GIVE, the ring prob has 2-3 inches of high dense foam add that with GIVE, any one to come out with that comment is extremly retarded, to any one whos done judo or wrestling has trained on floor matts, anything above a normal back bump kills and 9/10 instanly winds ya, taken that beast of a power bomb woulda killed, he wasnt selling it he was just ****ed!!!! the best sell in life is when the pain is real and that was ****ing murder.

DM_7

SilverFox261 wrote: »

After seeing that powerbomb and the way they kept refering to it throughout the show It really looks like WWE want to give Sheamus a big push.

I heard somewhere that Sheamus is training on the road with HHH which might have contributed to his move from ECW to RAW. I was thinking that if HHH does get a heel turn towards the time of Wrestlemania, can anyone see Sheamus being paired up with HHH as the next Batista like figure?

He is supposed to be traininh with HHH alright. But by the sounds of it his attitude is a big part of why wwe like him. HHH said Sheamus turns up at shows he isn't even scheduled to be at and he spends most of his time wanting to learn and work.

A guy Like Carlito who we mentioned here already could do with showing the same attitude.

Rawm2008 wrote: »

I scream BULL****, the matts are an inch thick over concrete with NO GIVE, the ring prob has 2-3 inches of high dense foam add that with GIVE, any one to come out with that comment is extremly retarded, to any one whos done judo or wrestling has trained on floor matts, anything above a normal back bump kills and 9/10 instanly winds ya, taken that beast of a power bomb woulda killed, he wasnt selling it he was just ****ed!!!! the best sell in life is when the pain is real and that was ****ing murder.

Have you seen the thickness of the ringside mats wwe use? They don'y look like those crappy ones in a PE hall. They always looked to be far more than 1 inch thick like you suggest.

michael.etc...

Rawm2008 wrote: »

I scream BULL****, the matts are an inch thick over concrete with NO GIVE, the ring prob has 2-3 inches of high dense foam add that with GIVE, any one to come out with that comment is extremly retarded, to any one whos done judo or wrestling has trained on floor matts, anything above a normal back bump kills and 9/10 instanly winds ya, taken that beast of a power bomb woulda killed, he wasnt selling it he was just ****ed!!!! the best sell in life is when the pain is real and that was ****ing murder.

You call someone else "retarded", and you come out with crap like that?

I do MMA and get slammed on a one inch thick mat,( a lot) and it winds you for a second but nothing else, The way Noble landed was perfect for a safe landing. He landed flat on his back, Increasing the surface area= Less Pressure=Less pain.
I would like to have a pro-wrestlers opinion though, Anybody?

Mr. Guappa

Rawm2008 wrote: »

I scream BULL****, the matts are an inch thick over concrete with NO GIVE, the ring prob has 2-3 inches of high dense foam add that with GIVE, any one to come out with that comment is extremly retarded, to any one whos done judo or wrestling has trained on fkoor matts, anything above a normal back bump kills and 9/10 instanly winds ya, taken that beast of a power bomb woulda killed, he wasnt selling it he was just ****ed!!!! the best sell in life is when the pain is real and that was ****ing murder.

In this day and age, every minute of tv time that WWE puts out is extremely controlled. Yes, it looked liked that powerbomb absolutely destroyed Noble, and that was the idea, that camera was not in that position by accident. WWE would not put anyone in a situation where there was a big chance of a serious injury. I'm sure Noble felt it, no doubt, but it was a carefully controlled angle... Do you really think they said "lets leave this rookie go out there and powerbomb the hell out of Noble on a 1 inch mat and hope everything turns out ok?"

flahavaj

Rawm2008 wrote: »

I scream BULL****, the matts are an inch thick over concrete with NO GIVE, the ring prob has 2-3 inches of high dense foam add that with GIVE, any one to come out with that comment is extremly retarded, to any one whos done judo or wrestling has trained on floor matts, anything above a normal back bump kills and 9/10 instanly winds ya, taken that beast of a power bomb woulda killed, he wasnt selling it he was just ****ed!!!! the best sell in life is when the pain is real and that was ****ing murder.

This isn't some backyard indy we're talking about where the wrestlers take whatever risk they want to get themselves over, this is WWE, the biggest company in the world. Theres no hope in hell they'd let someone take a bump like that in a mid card TV angle unless they thought it was totally safe.

Then again I'll bow to your superior knowledge on this one. Judging by your assertion that theres probably some "high dense foam" under the ring, you obviously have a far greater insight into such things than I have.:rolleyes:

Your knowledge of such matters is superceded only by your kindergarten level spelling and command of English my dear boy. You're in no position to call anyone retarded when sub-literate drivel such as this is the best you can muster. Stick to the the crayons there son, maybe in a few years we'll let you have the magic markers, but only if you promise not to try and eat them or draw all over your face.

Red Sleeping Beauty

Any word on Noble's situation? Did the powerbomb injury him or anything? Can he still walk?

flahavaj

Alan Rouge wrote: »

Any word on Noble's situation? Did the powerbomb injury him or anything? Can he still walk?

I think he fractured a disc which fragmented into his spinal column.:pac:

He'l never walk again apparently.
Trainwreck thread.

Tricity Bendix

flahavaj wrote: »

I think he fractured a disc which fragmented into his spinal column.:pac:

He'll probaby need surgery five times in his left knee.

Gerry81

flahavaj wrote: »

Then again I'll bow to your superior knowledge on this one. Judging by your assertion that theres probably some "high dense foam" under the ring, you obviously have a far greater insight into such things than I have.:rolleyes:

There actually is high density foam beneath the canvas. Rings are made from a steel frame with steel beams going across. above the steel beams are sheets of thin steel, the thin sheets create most of the noise you hear when a wrestler hits the mat. Above the steel sheets are wooden planks and above these is a thick layer of foam, followed by the canvas.

flahavaj

Gerry81 wrote: »

There actually is high density foam beneath the canvas. Rings are made from a steel frame with steel beams going across. above the steel beams are sheets of thin steel, the thin sheets create most of the noise you hear when a wrestler hits the mat. Above the steel sheets are wooden planks and above these is a thick layer of foam, followed by the canvas.

Whether there is or not isn't really the point. I was taking issue with our friend saying with absolute CERTAINTY that taking the bump on mats was worse trhan in the ring and then giving his reason for saying so as "there's probably foam under it."

3hn2givr7mx1sc

I actually couldn't watch the replays because it looked so bad, I'm starting to get a little squeamish with things like that.:o

slicus ricus

flahavaj wrote: »

Whether there is or not isn't really the point. I was taking issue with our friend saying with absolute CERTAINTY that taking the bump on mats was worse trhan in the ring and then giving his reason for saying so as "there's probably foam under it."

Taking the bump on the mats is definately far worse than in the ring. Just stating the fact here, not trying to rub anyone up the wrong way.

The ring does have foam mats on top of the wood (the layer under the canvess) and also has a spring underneath, all of which helps to break your fall, particularly if the bump is in the centre of the ring. A wrestling ring is specifically designed to provide a lot of give. WWE rings are supposedly far better padded than the rings you would see at indy shows, which makes sense considering the WWE guys wrestle 3-4 times a week.

The mats on the other hand are placed on concrete, which has no give at all. The mats themselves are similar to the mats you would see in amateur wrestling, which are a fair bit better than judo mats. While it would hurt more than in the ring, it's still quite safe. The worst Noble would have gotten (assuming he doesn't mess up his bump) was a good winding.

I must say though, the powerbomb looked great. The camera angle was perfect and Big Red made it look like he ploughed Noble into the ground. Noble sold it perfectly as well.

flahavaj

slicus ricus wrote: »

Taking the bump on the mats is definately far worse than in the ring. Just stating the fact here, not trying to rub anyone up the wrong way.
.

Do you think so? I'd honestly have said taking the bump on ring mats would hev been easier.Especially the thick ultra safe mats that WWE use, far thicker than normal gym mats you'd see at an indy show. Either way as you said, taking the bump on the mats would at worse have left him a bit winded, no risk of long term damage.

As for rubbing people up the wrong way, I've no bother with someone disageeing with me bai, its a discussion forum after all. I just get p*ssed off when they call me a retard.:pac:

Gambra

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/articles/12155082/nobleupdate

After a brutal and punishing match with the Celtic Warrior, Sheamus, last Monday night on Raw, and a severe post-match beating at the hands of the Irish powerhouse, WWE.com spoke with Noble who was still recuperating in the hospital as a result of his injuries.
...
Noble told WWE.com that the neck and shoulder injures he suffered Monday night puts his future in WWE in question.

"When Sheamus powerbombed me on the floor, he compressed my neck and shoulders real bad. It always seems to be my neck. I'm laying here and I still have headaches and the back of my skull is sore," Noble revealed.

"Luckily, the doctors tell me I'm going to recover again. But I'm laying here thinkin' about how great my life is with my wife and my son. I'm thinkin' how many more times am I gonna be lucky enough to walk out of the hospital on my own. I'm thinkin' it might be time to hang up my tights and boots."

flahavaj

Whatever you do, PLEASE don't try this at home.

Red Sleeping Beauty

slicus ricus wrote: »

Taking the bump on the mats is definately far worse than in the ring. Just stating the fact here, not trying to rub anyone up the wrong way.

The ring does have foam mats on top of the wood (the layer under the canvess) and also has a spring underneath, all of which helps to break your fall, particularly if the bump is in the centre of the ring. A wrestling ring is specifically designed to provide a lot of give. WWE rings are supposedly far better padded than the rings you would see at indy shows, which makes sense considering the WWE guys wrestle 3-4 times a week.

The mats on the other hand are placed on concrete, which has no give at all. The mats themselves are similar to the mats you would see in amateur wrestling, which are a fair bit better than judo mats. While it would hurt more than in the ring, it's still quite safe. The worst Noble would have gotten (assuming he doesn't mess up his bump) was a good winding.

I must say though, the powerbomb looked great. The camera angle was perfect and Big Red made it look like he ploughed Noble into the ground. Noble sold it perfectly as well.

WWF's ring was apparently one of the hardest in the business up until the Foley/Taker Hell in a Cell match. Foley said that after that they loosened up the ring a bit but up until then it was very hard to land on. There's an old tape of him having a chat with the Hardyz and chatting about it.

They used to have them old spongey kinda mats until they changed to the ones they hvae now. Can't say I've fallen on either of them but the ones they use now look like they'd be less soft than the 90's ones.

flahavaj wrote: »

Whatever you do, PLEASE don't try this at home.

I quite liked the video promos they did before they did the "Don't try this at home" stuff. Remember the Attitude promos from around 1997? There was a great one with some of the old guys like Classy Freddy Blassie and Gorilla Monsoon talking about how they "never walked the top rope..." or "never did a moonsault". I think they were kinda precursors to the warnings that came around 2000.

Bounty Hunter

Has noble actually retired?

WWE.com says he has, although it does seem to be just the article that had already been posted here saying he had considerd it after the attack by Sheamus with the added title Jamie noble has retired.

obviously that suggests that yes he has but if so im surprised more hasnt been made of it, infact if its true it deserves a thread of its own. I'd assume he is just done in ring and will go on as a road agent.