The Belfast "Peace Wall"

robbie_998

yes yes yes the Berlin wall came tumbling down !

Things were a bit sticky afterwards but things worked out after all.

could this not be done in Northern Ireland ?

It just really seems to be between Catholics and protestant. But when muslims and Arabic's and all the rest are up there it seems to be fine.

anybody else here for peace ?

My name is URL

The Polish can build a wall for us to tear down

yay integration

partyatmygaff

I highly doubt its about catholics and protestants nowadays. Its turned more into an us vs the brits type of thing.

Morlar

The hoff needs to go to belfast and do his magic.

Fizman

Well OP first you're gonna have to propose a particular wall to knock in the north. Get back to us when you've chosen one ok thanks bye.

PirateShampoo

But if we didnt have the British to blame for all our problems, then who would we blame?




Cork people?

smoggy11

This is why:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/01/northern-ireland-riots-hugh-orde

The image Belfast presents to tourists etc. Is very different to the reality. Bit like Dublin really too.

super_furry

Aren't they all pals up there now? Gerry has sleepovers at Ian's house, they watch scary films, eat rice-crispy buns and talk about boys they like.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Do you mean the peace walls?

No way, far too much tension and sectarian intimidation all over the 6 counties from both sides for that to happen just yet

WeWillBeReborn

Why is the Berlin Wall in Ireland?

DoireNod

After Hours or not, close thread. Please?

mikom

Morlar wrote: »

The hoff needs to go to belfast and do his magic.

Either that or Captain planet

jumpguy

Lets look at why the Berlin Wall came down: The USSR basically was collapsing. The social, even physical difference is still there today, although less so than in the 90's. They gave up their territory

For the same to happen in the North, either England or Ireland would just have to give up their territory in Ireland. Hmmm...I wonder what the chances are of Ireland giving it's territory to England, or vice versa?

Daroxtar

DoireNod wrote: »

After Hours or not, close thread. Please?

Yes indeed. All talk of peace is to be shut down and silenced. Down with that sort of thing!!!
You do live in the city named after Lord Londonderry, right?
:rolleyes:

stovelid

Integration is a long-term, gradual, generational process and there is no quick fix.

Slapping a big wall between two communities would validate - and prolong - segregation.

Plus the prods would no doubt land all the plum bricklaying contracts. The cheek of themuns.

super_furry

jumpguy wrote: »

For the same to happen in the North, either England or Ireland would just have to give up their territory in Ireland. Hmmm...I wonder what the chances are of Ireland giving it's territory to England, or vice versa?

I think it's more a case of 'crap, we don't want it, will you take it back please?' 'Ehhh no thanks.'

enniscorthy

hi yes that should be ok see u there regards brian

DoireNod

Daroxtar wrote: »

Yes indeed. All talk of peace is to be shut down and silenced. Down with that sort of thing!!!
You do live in the city named after Lord Londonderry, right?
:rolleyes:

This thread is a ridiculous thread, that's the reason I joked that it should be closed. People are seriously working toward peace in the North and threads like this don't add to it in any way, in my opinion. Half the time, people start arguing over the Brits and the 'RA. It never ends nicely and descends into madness. Since this thread has started with madness, I don't see a bright future for it and I can almost guarantee either stupidity or insensitivity (or both) will appear throughout.

'Lord Londonderry'? No, just no. You sound like you don't have much of a clue about the North or Derry with this kind of nonsense.

TheZohanS

DoireNod wrote: »

'Lord Londonderry'? No, just no.

Daire, which in modern Irish is spelt Doire, and translates as ‘Oak-grove’. The name derives from the settlement's earliest references, Daire Calgaich (‘oakwood of Calgach’).

smoggy11

But by being so sensitive about the issue you dont help things.

You have to be able to joke and talk about these things openly and by asking that a thread discussing the issue be closed you only make the situation seem worse than it is.

Or worse still, you make it seem that we folks from the North don't have a sense of humor about these things!

jumpguy

super_furry wrote: »

I think it's more a case of 'crap, we don't want it, will you take it back please?' 'Ehhh no thanks.'

Although I'm sure the coffers in the UK would cry in delight if we took it back, there'd be serious social consequences. I don't think we want it either.

Fratton Fred

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

the 6 counties

Dublin, Meath, Wicklow, Carlow, Wexford and Louth?

I thought they just built the wall to give them more space for their murals. i thought maybe they had run out of end of terrace houses or something.

stovelid

We've reached the usual critical juncture of all NI threads where the well-balanced and humorous people start to exit the thread pronto.

We should call it shite flight.

Zebra3

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Do you mean the peace walls?

:D:D

Peace walls, yeah right....

ShooterSF

"Reagan Smash!"

DoireNod

smoggy11 wrote: »

But by being so sensitive about the issue you dont help things.

You have to be able to joke and talk about these things openly and by asking that a thread discussing the issue be closed you only make the situation seem worse than it is.

Or worse still, you make it seem that we folks from the North don't have a sense of humor about these things!

Well, I don't like to gloss over serious issues, if you'll excuse me. I also never claim to be speaking for the whole of the North, so whatever inference is made, it is not my problem.

Like I said, I know this is AH, but the issue is ongoing and such a suggestion as that in the OP is just absurd and surely can't warrant a thread of its own?

I'm no mod, so it doesn't really matter what I say, but that's my opinion on these kinds of threads.

genericguy

let's just build a fookin wall around NI, it's of no concern to us because it's a different country. build a wall and let them moan all they like at each other while we relax and forget about it and have some cake. same with palestine and israel, same with africa. their problem, let them solve it.

My name is URL

DoireNod wrote: »

Well, I don't like to gloss over serious issues, if you'll excuse me. I also never claim to be speaking for the whole of the North, so whatever inference is made, it is not my problem.

Like I said, I know this is AH, but the issue is ongoing and such a suggestion as that in the OP is just absurd and surely can't warrant a thread of its own?

I'm no mod, so it doesn't really matter what I say, but that's my opinion on these kinds of threads.

I assumed the OP meant 'wall' in a metaphorical way, the barriers in the way of peace and all that

I don't think he wants to build a wall

ShooterSF

My name is URL wrote: »

I assumed the OP meant 'wall' in a metaphorical way, the barriers in the way of peace and all that

I don't think he wants to build a wall

Pfft at least a real wall would create jobs

TheZohanS

OP I am closing this thread.

If you would like some serious answers you can post in Humanities.