ye are so wrong

Vampireskiss

But it doesnt matter , I know there is a God and an afterlife , I can not prove it but ye should not worry because you don't need faith to get there ,you just need to be a good person

MagicMarker

How do you know?

thethedev

Sound

Vampireskiss

MagicMarker wrote: »

How do you know?

I just do

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

so it's not the christian heaven then?

Dinner

Thor is going to be so pissed when you meet him.

Vampireskiss

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

so it's not the christian heaven then?

obviously not

Vampireskiss

Dinner wrote: »

Thor is going to be so pissed when you meet him.

why

MagicMarker

Vampireskiss wrote: »

I just do

How?

ShooterSF

This is the most informative thread I have read in A&A in some time.




(Even still, can we keep it open for a little while pretty please mods with a cherry on top?)

PeakOutput

Vampireskiss wrote: »

I just do

how though?

Herbal Deity

Why the thread? You're not going to convince anyone with "I just know".

NothingMan

Turns out that was all I needed to hear, Sign me back up to the Church!

Vampireskiss

MagicMarker wrote: »

How?

How you ask? well how do you quantify the most important aspects of life, I mean with regards relationships do you know scientifically if your friend ,girl friend,boy friend ,mother ,father,grand father ,grand mother,wife,husband,child,Loves your or not or do you just feel they do?

NothingMan

Vampireskiss wrote: »

How you ask? well how do you quantify the most important aspects of life, I mean with regards relationships do you know scientifically if your friend ,girl friend,boy friend ,mother ,father,grand father ,grand mother,wife,husband,child,Loves your or not or do you just feel they do?

They tell me, or show it through physical acts like making love and dinner!

ShooterSF

NothingMan wrote: »

Vampireskiss wrote: »

How you ask? well how do you quantify the most important aspects of life, I mean with regards relationships do you know scientifically if your friend ,girl friend,boy friend ,mother ,father,grand father ,grand mother,wife,husband,child,Loves your or not or do you just feel they do?

They tell me, or show it through physical acts like making love and dinner!

I hope that's not the entire list of them

Dont be at yourself

What kind of god? How many? What kind of afterlife? How come you can get there by being a good person - is this based on intuition, hope, an old book, a vision?

MagicMarker

Vampireskiss wrote: »

How you ask? well how do you quantify the most important aspects of life, I mean with regards relationships do you know scientifically if your friend ,girl friend,boy friend ,mother ,father,grand father ,grand mother,wife,husband,child,Loves your or not or do you just feel they do?

They told me.

Did God tell you he exists?

Vampireskiss

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

What kind of god? How many? What kind of afterlife? How come you can get there by being a good person - is this based on intuition, hope, an old book, a vision?

A loving god

1 god

too amazing to decribe

a vision

Dudess

Vampireskiss wrote: »

I know there is a God and an afterlife

Wanting something to be the case is not the same as knowing it's the case.

Herbal Deity

Vampireskiss wrote: »

How you ask? well how do you quantify the most important aspects of life, I mean with regards relationships do you know scientifically if your friend ,girl friend,boy friend ,mother ,father,grand father ,grand mother,wife,husband,child,Loves your or not or do you just feel they do?

You could if you monitored endorphin levels in the brains of your loved ones when exposed to you, I suppose.

Most people rely on intuition and trust, however.

What this has to do with God, I don't know.

MagicMarker

Vampireskiss wrote: »

A loving god

1 god

too amazing to decribe

a vision

A loving God to all indeed, except to women, homosexuals and non believers.

Vampireskiss

MagicMarker wrote: »

A loving God to all indeed, except to women, homosexuals and non believers.

No those beliefs were created by man

Dont be at yourself

A loving god

Is he an old man, with a white beard? Does he want to be worshipped? Is he vengeful? Does he answer people's prayers?

too amazing to decribe

Can't you try? Clouds? 40 virgins? Jim Morrison? Sulpher, brimstone, pitchforks?

a vision

What was the vision of?

MagicMarker

Vampireskiss wrote: »

No those beliefs were created by man

But God created all!?

PeakOutput

i also just know there is no god

guess i win too

Dudess

You don't really have huge grounds for telling people here they're "all so wrong"... when you don't know really.

Vampireskiss

MagicMarker wrote: »

But God created all!?

God created all, but everyone has been created withe free will

Vampireskiss

Dudess wrote: »

You don't really have huge grounds for telling people here they're "all so wrong"... when you don't know really.

Why, the Athiests on this forum do it all the time

Dinner

Vampireskiss wrote: »

why

Because you're down here worshipping your 'loving' god and meanwhile Thor and friends are sitting up in Valhalla getting restless because you're not worshipping them.

I know this because he told me.

tricky D

Vampireskiss wrote: »

1 god

1 god or 3, you ppl never seem to make up your mind.

or maybe it's 2 gods, the nasty bastard in the first half of the story and the nicer one in the second.

Vampireskiss

tricky D wrote: »

1 god or 3, you ppl never seem to make up your mind.

or maybe it's 2 gods, the nasty bastard in the first half of the story and the nicer one in the second.

1

MagicMarker

Vampireskiss wrote: »

God created all, but everyone has been created withe free will

So what's with the ten commandments?

Vampireskiss

MagicMarker wrote: »

So what's with the ten commandments?

you mean why the ten commandments?

tricky D

Vampireskiss wrote: »

1

Must have bipolar thing going on then so.

MagicMarker

Vampireskiss wrote: »

you mean why the ten commandments?

Well you say god created us all with free will, yet we're not allowed worship anyone or anything but him.

That doesn't sound like free will to me.

Dades

Thanks for the heads up, Vampireskiss.

/forum

Zillah

Are you aware that there are literally millions of people around the world who have based their beliefs on a vision they had, and that they all think you are wrong and that they are the special one. Are you also aware that it has already been proven that the brain can produce false visions?

You are all wrong, and none of you are special. You are one more gullible homosapien who has been duped by his own poorly designed brain. With no scepticism to shield you, no logic to guide you, no evidence to be the bedrock on which you stand, you are floating in a cloud of lunacy and falsehoods.

You, like millions like you, have nothing to offer us.

5uspect

Well that clears that up then. There just is a God cos you said so.
Wow, the things you learn on the Internet.

Vampireskiss

Zillah wrote: »

Are you aware that there are literally millions of people around the world who have based their beliefs on a vision they had, and that they all think you are wrong and that they are the special one. Are you also aware that it has already been proven that the brain can produce false visions?

You are all wrong, and none of you are special. You are one more gullible homosapien who has been duped by his own poorly designed brain. With no scepticism to shield you, no logic to guide you, no evidence to be the bedrock on which you stand, you are floating in a cloud of lunacy and falsehoods.

You, like millions like you, have nothing to offer us.

I feel sorry for you

Dont be at yourself

Not as sorry as I feel for you!

Zillah

Vampireskiss wrote: »

I feel sorry for you

Curious.

Why did you not respond to any of the issues I raised in my post? Is it that you actually cannot respond to them with any intellectual worth? Is it that deep down you know your ridiculous vision is nonesense and you are afraid to actually engage in discussion on it?

dlofnep

My parents firmly believe in God. Both are very devout Catholics. I respect their beliefs and believe that they are genuine. I try not to chastise people who believe in God, because I once did too (albeit, when I was about 13). People generally find their own way in life. If the idea of a God keeps them comfortable, then good for them.

Who knows? We will all find out when we die what the real deal is.

Zillah

dlofnep wrote: »

We will all find out when we die what the real deal is.

No we won't

Conveniently, you won't mind either, for the very same reason.

eoin5

Most believers here have concocted rationalisations in order to justify their belief. You just believe, at least youre honest, its no virtue in itself though.

dlofnep

Zillah wrote: »

No we won't

Conveniently, you won't mind either, for the very same reason.

I don't pretend to know.

Daftendirekt

Whew! Thanks for sharing OP.

Thank God I stumbled into A+A this evening!

fisgon

Why are we wasting valuable logic, braincells, time, effort, electricity, attention, thought and energy on someone who, when asked to say why they believe there is a god, comes up with the equivalent of the answer, 'that's the why'.? Enough with this non-thread and this non-argument, and enough with a poster who names him/herself after a minion of satan while claiming to be a follower of the one true god while simultaneously patronising everyone on this forum. Enough!

Anita Blow

Is he a noodley god?

Zillah

fisgon wrote: »

Why are we wasting valuable logic, braincells, time, effort, electricity, attention, thought and energy on someone who, when asked to say why they believe there is a god, comes up with the equivalent of the answer, 'that's the why'.?

It amuses us.

lugha

fisgon wrote: »

Why are we wasting valuable logic, braincells, time, effort, electricity, attention, thought and energy on someone who, when asked to say why they believe there is a god, comes up with the equivalent of the answer, 'that's the why'.?

That's the why! :P
Although it's a good question. The kind of pitch the OP makes always seems to give lots of us an itch somewhere that we just have to scratch. So we question and probe and prod her (?) stance even though we know it is unlikely that she will pounce with a killer argument that will stop us in our tracks.