Cravings

Khannie

So.....I'm having mad cravings for natural yoghurt. Is there something in them that I may require in quantity? I'm guessing they're loaded with calcium. I just checked the pack and there's no ingredients list. It does say it's made with semi-skimmed milk. I suppose it's probably just milk + cultures?

I'm currently running a calorie deficit (to the tune of about 1000 calories per day) but I'm supplementing with the following:

1 x multivit
1g of vitamin c
High EPA omega 3 capsule
ZMA at night

Your thoughts on a postcard.

corkcomp

Khannie wrote: »

So.....I'm having mad cravings for natural yoghurt. Is there something in them that I may require in quantity? I'm guessing they're loaded with calcium. I just checked the pack and there's no ingredients list. It does say it's made with semi-skimmed milk. I suppose it's probably just milk + cultures?

I'm currently running a calorie deficit (to the tune of about 1000 calories per day) but I'm supplementing with the following:

1 x multivit
1g of vitamin c
High EPA omega 3 capsule
ZMA at night

Your thoughts on a postcard.

are you sure its not just the type of craving you are likely to get on a large calorie deficit? Natural Yoghurt also has plenty carbs so maybe you are craving those? I doubt you would be deficient in calcium, even when I was running a huge calorie deficit previously and getting most of cals from veg, meat and fish, my blood workout still showed calcium was near the high end of the scale and that was without consuming any dairy ...

Khannie

corkcomp wrote: »

are you sure its not just the type of craving you are likely to get on a large calorie deficit?

No...not sure at all. Good point. My diet is very good at the moment. Mostly veg, fruit and lean meat.

El_Dangeroso

1,000 cal deficit? Sounds like you're just hungry tbh.

Have some natural yoghurt, cravings don't necessarily equate to a deficiency.

We can crave things that we're not deficient in and we can be deficient in things we're not craving..

Oh and put a few berries with it for good measure

Khannie

Temple_Grandin wrote: »

Oh and put a few berries with it for good measure

I do when I'm at home. Om nyom nyom. :pac: I keep wondering if I'll ever grow tired of raspberries.

Mellor

I'm running a pretty big deficit myself, aiming to tak in 1000-1200cals a day. So far so good this week, daily need is about 2500-2800 based on online calcs. So i'm 1000-1500 deficit during the week, but far less, but around maintenance at the weekend.

The funny thing is, I've been craving yogurt too. I found a range that taste the biz and are c.70 cals for a tub. They sold out, so I bougth a yoplait lite range and they are 150-160 a tub, lite my arse

Khannie

Yeah, the 500g tubs in lidls are tasty enough and low in cals (49cals per 100g for the fat free or 59 cals per 100g for the 1.5% fat ones).

1500 calorie deficit sounds very rough. I find if I go beyond 1000 that I get the cold hands thing, which I hate.

rubadub

I wouldn't go past 1000kcal deficit. I have heard 2lb of fat is the limit an average sized person can physcially lose in a week, and 7000kcal per week equates to this (in theory).

I always figured this was too vague and I expect it is really a % of the fat you have. e.g. a big guy could afford to be on a bigger deficit and could healthily lose more than 2lb of fat per week.

Could also effect your immune system, esp. around this time of year.

El_Dangeroso

Definitely don't go beyond a 1,000 cal deficit. I just can't see how it could be healthy.

Check out the original calorie restriction experiment, (back then they called it starvation, but hey that's what marketing is for ), the Minnesota Starvation Experiment, participants were put on anything from a 800-1200 calorie deficit and the results were as follows (from wikipedia):

Among the many conclusions from the study was the confirmation that prolonged semi-starvation produces significant increases in depression, hysteria and hypochondriasis as measured using the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI), a standardized test administered during the experimental period. Indeed, most of the subjects experienced periods of severe emotional distress and depression. There were extreme reactions to the psychological effects during the experiment including self-mutilation (one subject amputated three fingers of his hand with an axe, though the subject was unsure if he had done so intentionally or accidentally).[1] Participants exhibited a preoccupation with food, both during the starvation period and the rehabilitation phase. Sexual interest was drastically reduced and the volunteers showed signs of social withdrawal and isolation. The participants reported a decline in concentration, comprehension and judgment capabilities, although the standardized tests administered showed no actual signs of diminished capacity. There were marked declines in physiological processes indicative of decreases in each subject’s basal metabolic rate (the energy required by the body in a state of rest) and reflected in reduced body temperature, respiration and heart rate. Some of the subjects exhibited edema (swelling) in the extremities, presumably due to the massive quantities of water the participants consumed attempting to fill their stomachs during the starvation period.

corkcomp

agree with previous posts ... dropping 500 - 700 cals per day is plenty .. now, if you are one of those people on supersize vs super skinny taking in 6000cals of crap, then that might be a case for dropping a bit more!

the body can only burn fat at a certain rate, if you go over board then you risk muscle loss I guess ... ive always found it is next to impossible to lift heavy on a major deficit ... I reckon the best solution is not to get into a situation where you need to create a deficit for too long!

Mellor

Thanks for the comments concern but

Khannie wrote: »

1500 calorie deficit sounds very rough. I find if I go beyond 1000 that I get the cold hands thing, which I hate.

I will snack more if I need to, but 1000 deficit the min during the week.

rubadub wrote: »

I wouldn't go past 1000kcal deficit. I have heard 2lb of fat is the limit an average sized person can physcially lose in a week, and 7000kcal per week equates to this (in theory).

Remember I said I'm only running this during the week.
1500 mon-thurs is 6000, 1000 over fri-sun would be a decent guess (I go drinking on a friday and a sunday, hence the lower deficit

This is the same a 1000 a day, in theory, it just helps me average it everyday, instead of 1000 a day, and weekend drops you to less than a 7000 deficit

Could also effect your immune system, esp. around this time of year.

I'm ok on that front, its coming towards summer here, it was 26 degrees on my way to work today

corkcomp wrote: »

the body can only burn fat at a certain rate, if you go over board then you risk muscle loss I guess ... ive always found it is next to impossible to lift heavy on a major deficit ... I reckon the best solution is not to get into a situation where you need to create a deficit for too long!

To be honest, this might shock most of the fitness regs, I would nit losing a bit on muscle.

Originally my plan was to lose fat, maintain muscle, get the weight down to 70-75kg
I was going great, losing .5-1kg a week, then I plateaued. Or I thought I did. Weight stayed the same. However, I still looked leaner, esp in the face, my lifts have gone up alot over a short space of time.
Bench press in 3 months ago was 40kg (first time doign weights)
This week it is 60kg (or at least equal reps, maybe more)

I've likely increased muscle mass. I'd rather I got the figure on the scales down for now. Or else i'll never me lightweight champion of the world

figroll

Hi Folks, I've been getting the same thing with natural yogurt, but i'm not on a huge deficit. So i thought it must just be because its lovely with strawberries! By the way, its Glenisk all the way - but doubt you can get Glenisk in Oz (looking out at rain at the moment - not fair!).

Anyway, on the issue of deficit.. if your on 1000-1500 deficit, then your obviously below your BMR so does your metabolism not slow down etc and make your body cling on to fat stores?

Thanks,
Figroll

BraziliaNZ

figroll wrote: »

Anyway, on the issue of deficit.. if your on 1000-1500 deficit, then your obviously below your BMR so does your metabolism not slow down etc and make your body cling on to fat stores?

I think people get a bit too scientific on this forum sometimes. I have found that if I'm on a calorie deficit and if my stomach is feeling hungry all the time, you lose weight. Simple as. My plan is to introduce protein shakes if my strength gets much weaker as I continue to lose weight.

figroll

Yeah i guess but does that 'weight' come from muscle? I would have thought science or biology is a pretty good way of explaining howyourbodyworks.com!?

Just kidding, i know what you mean though, theory vs practice or whatever.

Thanks,
Figroll

BraziliaNZ

figroll wrote: »

Yeah i guess but does that 'weight' come from muscle? I would have thought science or biology is a pretty good way of explaining howyourbodyworks.com!?

Just kidding, i know what you mean though, theory vs practice or whatever.

Thanks,
Figroll

well i've lost about 6kg recently and I can still lift the same, so I doubt i've lost muscle, I'm eating the same amount of protein but have cut out the other stuff