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First Rugby game in Lansdowne Road

  • 28-10-2009 11:03am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    According to scrum.com, this is going ahead:

    The Irish Rugby Football Union (IRFU) has announced that the first game to be played at Dublin's new Aviva Stadium, the replacement for Lansdowne Road, will be between a combined Leinster/Ulster team and a Munster/Connacht selection on August 7, 2010

    Anyone heard anything confirmed from any other sources? the fact that there's a date makes it a bit more official.

    edit:bleh, actually had the thread title as "first game in Aviva" - changed now, but I still feel dirty.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭damselnat


    Just heard it on RTE




  • Sounds pretty interesting, and its definitely Lansdowne Road, Aviva can give them as much money as they want, but it'll always be Lansdowne!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    It's not always going to be landsdowne road.. to be honest I just told two people about this, I said in Aviva stadium and they knew what I meant..

    Whether we like it or not, it's going to change eventually..

    edit: on topic, this sounds interesting. Like to see how the teams are selected


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭remus808


    1. Healy
    2. Best
    3. Botha
    4. Cullen
    5. Hines
    6. Henry
    7. O'Brien
    8. Heaslip

    9. Boss
    10. Sexton
    11. Fitzgerald
    12. Wallace
    13. BOD
    14. Nagasua
    15. Kearney


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    Why is Henry at 6 instead of Ferris!?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Injury prediction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    August 7th seems a long wait for a stadium that is supposed to be finnished in April.

    What about the AIB League Final or even Magners League Final?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    August 7th seems a long wait for a stadium that is supposed to be finnished in April.

    What about the AIB League Final or even Magners League Final?

    I love your confidence! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    in fairness if its starting lineups then leinster/ulster will win by a mile...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭andrewdcs


    twinytwo wrote: »
    in fairness if its starting lineups then leinster/ulster will win by a mile...

    They'd surely put a quota in place to make it inclusive, 8 of one and seven of another. What 7 Connacht players would you swap into the Munster team? Would be great fun though, Baa Baas style lung buster.


    They should have an inter-pro sevens "tourney" before hand.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    i wonder how much the tickets will be?
    2 scrtch teams who will be very much still in pre season mode with im guessing few of the big names in the squads.
    its a game obviously to raise a few quid but 20 or 30 should all thats asked for a ticket

    (if you cant guess im a little peeved at the price of some of the tickets to rugby games!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Ah I wouldn't say it'll be a case of Leinster / Ulster hammering them..

    It'll be an exebition match, they'll keep the teams even enough, probably wont have the strongest Leinster / Ulster selection on the pitch at any one time...

    Would be interesting, but kind of disapointed it's not a fully competetive match such as a Magners match or something...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭GymJim


    Looking a bit uneven isn't it. Have based Munster/Connacht on basis they're likely to have to have at least 5 Connacht lads in the squad.

    Could be all change by this time next year (perhaps inclusion of Felix Jones, Brugnaut, Ronan among others).

    Munster/Connacht


    Warwick
    Howlett
    Mafi/de Villiers
    Earls
    Carr
    ROG
    TOL
    Muldoon
    Wallace
    Leamy
    POC
    DOC
    Hayes
    Flannery
    Wilkinson

    Subs

    Cronin
    Horan/Brugnaut
    Browne
    Ofisa
    Stringer
    Keatley
    Duffy/Dowling

    Leinster/Ulster

    Kearney
    Nagusa
    BOD
    Cave
    Fitz
    Sexton
    Boss
    Heaslip
    Pollock/Faloon/Jennings
    Ferris
    Hines
    CaldwellBotha
    R.Best
    Healy
    SubsJ.Fogarty
    Court/Ross
    Toner
    Pollock/Faloon/Jennings/Henry/SOB
    Reddan
    iHumph
    Darcy/Wallace/Nacewa


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,128 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    Ah I wouldn't say it'll be a case of Leinster / Ulster hammering them..

    It'll be an exebition match, they'll keep the teams even enough, probably wont have the strongest Leinster / Ulster selection on the pitch at any one time...

    Would be interesting, but kind of disapointed it's not a fully competetive match such as a Magners match or something...

    It has to be a pre-season match to stop them dirty soccer folks having the first game in the new stadium.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    Would be interesting, but kind of disapointed it's not a fully competetive match such as a Magners match or something...

    Munster v all blacks? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    No, a competetive match :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    haha, I understand now, sorry!

    But I do think that it will be an excellent spectacle. Very happy that the 4 provinces are being included.

    Wonder how they'll work out the selection, coaching etc.

    More importantly.....

    Lulster V Monnaught or Conster?












    Sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭nipps


    andrewdcs wrote: »
    They'd surely put a quota in place to make it inclusive, 8 of one and seven of another. What 7 Connacht players would you swap into the Munster team? Would be great fun though, Baa Baas style lung buster.

    i agree, it would only be fair to have 8 players from one team and 7 from the other palying. it wouldn't be as good if for example: there were 12 munster player playing with 3 connaught players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭chupacabra


    Seems a good a thread as any to post these...

    Lansdowne Road stadium construction update:
    1.jpg
    2.jpg
    3.JPG
    4.JPG
    5.JPG
    6.JPG
    7.jpg

    For anyone interested new photos are uploaded to the media gallery every month around the 20th on http://lrsdc.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric



    Lulster V Monnaught or Conster?

    How bout Lolster? Nice pics of the stadium there, it will be magnificent when finished. I suppose the inclusion of all the provinces is a nice touch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Whenever I see pictures of this magnificent new stadium, I just think why ....... why only 50,000?

    Never mind all the stuff about planning permission and "its in a residential area" bullcrap!
    That capacity is shamefull.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭2040


    Whenever I see pictures of this magnificent new stadium, I just think why ....... why only 50,000?

    Never mind all the stuff about planning permission and "its in a residential area" bullcrap!
    That capacity is shamefull.

    That's what i think everytime i hear about it too. Players from all the six nations and beyond love playing in Croke Park because of the immensity of it all and everything else. When Aviva/Landsdowne is built will that be the end of Rugby in Croke Park...forever?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    GymJim wrote: »
    Looking a bit uneven isn't it. Have based Munster/Connacht on basis they're likely to have to have at least 5 Connacht lads in the squad.

    Could be all change by this time next year (perhaps inclusion of Felix Jones, Brugnaut, Ronan among others).

    Munster/Connacht

    Warwick
    Howlett
    Mafi/de Villiers
    Earls
    Carr
    ROG
    TOL
    Muldoon
    Wallace
    Leamy
    POC
    DOC
    Hayes
    Flannery
    Wilkinson

    Subs

    Cronin
    Horan/Brugnaut
    Browne
    Ofisa
    Stringer
    Keatley
    Duffy/Dowling

    Leinster/Ulster

    Kearney
    Nagusa
    BOD
    Cave
    Fitz
    Sexton
    Boss
    Heaslip
    Pollock/Faloon/Jennings
    Ferris
    Hines
    Caldwell/Botha
    R.Best
    Healy

    Subs

    J.Fogarty
    Court/Ross
    Toner
    Pollock/Faloon/Jennings/Henry/SOB
    Reddan
    iHumph
    Darcy/Wallace/Nacewa

    Haha, you know what. That's not bad.
    If ROG's form continues like this i wouldn't write off Keatley, Jones for Duffy too. But that's a pretty solid Monnacht squad.

    The Lulster team, ridiculously hard to call! You haven't mentioned Daneilli, Trimble, Kyriacou, Horgan etc. (Im not threading on u, im just pointing it out). Wallace would be ahead of Cave for that inside centre back spot though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 943 ✭✭✭OldJay


    Whenever I see pictures of this magnificent new stadium, I just think why ....... why only 50,000?

    Never mind all the stuff about planning permission and "its in a residential area" bullcrap!
    That capacity is shamefull.
    Well, you see thats not "bullcrap". That is exactly "why only 50,000".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭toomevara


    Justind wrote: »
    Well, you see thats not "bullcrap". That is exactly "why only 50,000".

    Well said. It is a great, great shame for Irish and international rugby that unfortunately these issues couldn't be overcome. The Aviva looks like its going to be a wonderful stadium in terms of design and aesthetic, but unfortunately the 50k capacity will always be a massive, massive shortcoming...no doubt we'll all be staring whistfully towards Croker on every international game day thinking of what could have been....really,really unfortunate, especially when juxtaposed beside stadia like Twickers, Stade de France and Cardiff....Even the 67,000 capacity Murrayfield dwarfs it....I fear that we'll always regard it as a missed opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    toomevara wrote: »
    Well said. It is a great, great shame for Irish and international rugby that unfortunately these issues couldn't be overcome. The Aviva looks like its going to be a wonderful stadium in terms of design and aesthetic, but unfortunately the 50k capacity will always be a massive, massive shortcoming...no doubt we'll all be staring whistfully towards Croker on every international game day thinking of what could have been....really,really unfortunate, especially when juxtaposed beside stadia like Twickers, Stade de France and Cardiff....Even the 67,000 capacity Murrayfield dwarfs it....I fear that we'll always regard it as a missed opportunity.

    Totally agree. Should they not try to play at least one of the autumn internationals and one of 6N games at Croke Park in future?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Totally agree. Should they not try to play at least one of the autumn internationals and one of 6N games at Croke Park in future?

    1) The GAA might not let any more games be played there

    2) as far as I know they contractually have to play the games in the Aviva stadium


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    [QUOTE='[Jackass]

    Would be interesting, but kind of disapointed it's not a fully competetive match such as a Magners match or something...[/QUOTE]

    The main reason the first game in the stadium wont be a 'big' game is because they will be using the game as a test to make sure everything 'works' in the stadium in terms of medical facilities, stewarding etc. It was the same in Wembley the first game there was an u21 international


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 943 ✭✭✭OldJay


    Totally agree. Should they not try to play at least one of the autumn internationals and one of 6N games at Croke Park in future?

    This has all been explained before . . .

    No, there will be no more games in Croke Park.
    The amount of revenue generated in staging an event such as a rugby union match is NOT a simple matter of Attendance minus Costs equals Profits.

    Sponsorship and endorsement income agreements are based on the games being held at the new stadium as explained by Philip Browne before.

    Croke Park is not a Municipal stadium. It never has been. It is a hire-venue to anyone outside the GAA. Sub-contracting mid to long-term advertising, fixtures & fittings, staffing, insurance, corporate hospitality, endorsements all costs money to make money.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    The main reason the first game in the stadium wont be a 'big' game is because they will be using the game as a test to make sure everything 'works' in the stadium in terms of medical facilities, stewarding etc. It was the same in Wembley the first game there was an u21 international

    I believe they also had a reduced capacity for that game so I'm wouldn't be surprised if the same thing is done in Aviva .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Ceartgoleor


    Did anyone read the article in the Independent today about the ticket prices for this weekends Bledisloe Cup test in Japan between Australia and NZ? Cheapest tickets start circa €150 rising up to €540+. Journalist writing the piece predicts the IRB are looking to implement this policy in advance of the 2019 WC out there, and claims international ticket prices will continue to rise globally.

    Posting it here because that will be the big draw back of the 50,000 capacity; the scramble for tickets will be frantic and the ticket prices (on the black market) will probably go through the roof for the first few years. Hope they implement one of those ID style ticketing systems to ensure rugby people get the tickets instead of paying €200 to some tout


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    As said, IRFU chairman was asked about this before....under no circumstances will any Irish games be held outside of Lansdowne Road.

    They have contracts with sponsors, catering companies, bar facilities, corporate box holders etc. etc., that have all paid to ensure that Lansdowne is used.

    I'd imagine provincial games are outside of that contract, so possibly we could see Connacht / Ulster / Munster / Leinster in Croke Park, but that's it.

    Not sure if the IRFU would even want that though, or if the GAA would allow it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Did anyone read the article in the Independent today about the ticket prices for this weekends Bledisloe Cup test in Japan between Australia and NZ? Cheapest tickets start circa €150 rising up to €540+. Journalist writing the piece predicts the IRB are looking to implement this policy in advance of the 2019 WC out there, and claims international ticket prices will continue to rise globally.

    Posting it here because that will be the big draw back of the 50,000 capacity; the scramble for tickets will be frantic and the ticket prices (on the black market) will probably go through the roof for the first few years. Hope they implement one of those ID style ticketing systems to ensure rugby people get the tickets instead of paying €200 to some tout

    That is just nuts, i would never pay a price like that, thats crazy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 943 ✭✭✭OldJay


    Did anyone read the article in the Independent today about the ticket prices for this weekends Bledisloe Cup test in Japan between Australia and NZ? Cheapest tickets start circa €150 rising up to €540+

    . . . on a scalping web site :rolleyes:

    In reality, their prices are as follows:-

    Schoolkids - 3000 yen (approx. €22) - Unreserved
    Category 4 - 7000 yen (approx. €50) - Unreserved
    Category 3 - 12000 yen (approx. €86)
    Category 2 - 16000 yen (approx. €118)
    Category 1 - 20000 yen (approx €148)

    There's also a premium ticket which is a corporate price. That would be the "rising up to" price you mention, I would say.

    This took about two minutes to look up. Shame whatever journo who wrote the piece didn't bother or I could have saved myself two minutes.


  • Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Justind wrote: »
    Shame whatever journo who wrote the piece didn't bother or I could have saved myself two minutes.


    It was in the independent. All makes sense now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Justind wrote: »
    . . . on a scalping web site :rolleyes:

    In reality, their prices are as follows:-

    Schoolkids - 3000 yen (approx. €22) - Unreserved
    Category 4 - 7000 yen (approx. €50) - Unreserved
    Category 3 - 12000 yen (approx. €86)
    Category 2 - 16000 yen (approx. €118)
    Category 1 - 20000 yen (approx €148)

    There's also a premium ticket which is a corporate price. That would be the "rising up to" price you mention, I would say.

    This took about two minutes to look up. Shame whatever journo who wrote the piece didn't bother or I could have saved myself two minutes.
    Good Work.
    It was in the independent. All makes sense now
    Says it all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭daosulli


    chupacabra wrote: »
    Seems a good a thread as any to post these...

    Lansdowne Road stadium construction update:

    6.JPG
    [

    For anyone interested new photos are uploaded to the media gallery every month around the 20th on http://lrsdc.ie

    Thanks for the pics, it is just me or WTF is on the roof obstructing the view of the ppl in the top tier, have they made a complete cock up???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 943 ✭✭✭OldJay


    daosulli wrote: »
    it is just me or WTF is on the roof obstructing the view of the ppl in the top tier, have they made a complete cock up???

    No. The view is fine from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Justind wrote: »
    No. The view is fine from there.
    Not unless the pitch is the same level as they are - remember, they'll be looking down to see the place :P#

    edit: not aimed at Justin, misquoted.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,128 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Crash wrote: »
    Not unless the pitch is the same level as they are - remember, they'll be looking down to see the place :P#

    edit: not aimed at Justin, misquoted.

    Wouldn't it have made more sense to change the quotation in the edit rather than using your editing opportunity to point out your mistake?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Nah, its more fun to edit your post now to say "Wow Crash, you're so insightful, I think I have a touch of manlove for you."

    Ahem...back on topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Ah jeez, how come we get stuck with Munster? No chance of winning the game now... suppose we might take 2 or 3 of their squad to make up a team... :P:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭GO'S


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Ah jeez, how come we get stuck with Munster? No chance of winning the game now... suppose we might take 2 or 3 of their squad to make up a team... :P:D

    harsh comment...most HCs in the country so ye should be lucky :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Rob Mc


    Keatley for monnacht!!....I'm gonna start printing t-shirts , lol:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭GO'S


    wonder what the jerseys will be like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭GO'S


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by delta_bravo
    The main reason the first game in the stadium wont be a 'big' game is because they will be using the game as a test to make sure everything 'works' in the stadium in terms of medical facilities, stewarding etc. It was the same in Wembley the first game there was an u21 international

    they also did that for thomond park.munster 20s match and only let in like 2000 people


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