Coming soon - 50 million up in smoke! LOL

Biggins

Somewhere soon a furnace will be burning 50 millions worth of cigs.
Having found them on a raid to cut out their smuggling them in - it it not a good idea to sell them off rather than burn them?
Just wondering on others thoughts. Should we burn them (as we usually do) in a furnace somewhere or sell them and help fund the crime-fighters - you know, turn the monetary value of the stock of the criminals against them?

Background story: http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1027/cigarettes.html

120m cigarettes seized in Louth

Tuesday, 27 October 2009 15:48
Up to €50m worth of cigarettes have been seized in Greenore port in Co Louth from a cargo ship that originated in the Philippines.
A major customs operation is currently under way in the port and at other locations nearby.
Revenue officials seized cargo from the vessel MV Anne Scan during an operation known as 'Samhna'.

Officers kept the vessel under surveillance, as they suspected that a large consignment of contraband cigarettes was concealed within the cargo.
The ship arrived yesterday morning with a cargo said to be animal feed.
When the cargo was discharged, gardaí and customs officials seized the cigarettes and searched the ship.
Revenue officials believe the haul contains more than 120m cigarettes with a retail value of about €50m.
Several people have been arrested at various locations for questioning.
Garda Commissioner, Fachtna Murphy said: 'This is a significant strike against organised crime. The success of the operation illustrates the results and benefits that flow from close interagency cooperation.'
More 150 officers from agencies on both sides of the border participated in the operation.

biko

Garda Christmas party sorted so, just need to seize some whiskey now

Jumpy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBjRDcGMCnM

drunkmonkey

Stick a duty paid sticker on the back of them and sell them legally and fire the guys charged with burning smokes, there another fine waste on the public payroll...

Kintarō Hattori

No simply because alot of these cigarettes often have potentially dangerous chemicals added to them. Can you imagine the lawsuits from someone who became ill/died after smoking them. :eek:

prendy

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

No simply because alot of these cigarettes often have potentially dangerous chemicals added to them. Can you imagine the lawsuits from someone who became ill/died after smoking them. :eek:

they might get cancer?

WindSock

Sell them bck to the country of origin at half price. Should be done with all illegal drugs seized. We'd make a fortune back.

SV

prendy wrote: »

they might get cancer?

Maybe they don't plan on contracting cancer..

Mr. Presentable

WindSock wrote: »

Sell them bck to the country of origin at half price. Should be done with all illegal drugs seized. We'd make a fortune back.

Now that's a good idea!

Senna

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

No simply because alot of these cigarettes often have potentially dangerous chemicals added to them.

Agreed, there probably those dodgy ones you get abroad, they normally have a pepper taste to them.
But if they could be traced to a ligament factory, they should be sold back to them.

Biggins

prendy wrote: »

they might get cancer?

Sell them to Fianna Fail then?
They seem to be untouchable and health-proof as a corrupt org'!

...or the Greens?
"Here's your damn leaf's back!"

Prof.Badass

All those carcinogens just being released into the air?

Well not in my backyard. Wait till joe hears about this :mad:.

*raises fist and wobbles bingo wing.

My name is URL

I'm guessing that if seizures like that were sold on to the public by the state it would cause a bit of an uproar tbh

The Government profiting from crime.. God forbid!

wudangclan

still,€50 million of smokes,not to be sniffed at...

Prof.Badass

Senna wrote: »

Agreed, there probably those dodgy ones you get abroad, they normally have a pepper taste to them.
But if they could be traced to a ligament factory, they should be sold back to them.

teehee.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Fachtna Murphy said: 'This is a significant strike against organised crime.

A bit ironic considering they're protecting the government's own extortion racket.

electrogrimey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTTiSp03Pyc

adamski8

are they worth €50m with or without taxes? if with taxes then i guess its not much of a saving keeping and selling them

G_R

My name is URL wrote: »

The Government profiting from crime.. God forbid!

ever hear of the Proceeds of Crime Act

allthedoyles

120m cigarettes is around 600,000 cartons ( of 200 ) . Probably bought for around a euro each in the Philipines = € 600,000

Market value here = € 600,000 x € 80 per carton = € 48m


correct me if I am wrong

My name is URL

dannym08 wrote: »

ever hear of the Proceeds of Crime Act

Yeah, but there's a difference between using the proceeds of crimes already committed against the state and committing the crimes themselves in order to get the proceeds

jumpguy

Depends - if the cigarettes were legitimately made within the EU to EU standards that'd be fine. If the cigarettes are some dodgy yokes made in some dodgy country where the health regulations are as good as Europe's in the Middle Ages then it's best to dispose of them tbh.

Terry

allthedoyles wrote: »

120m cigarettes is around 600,000 cartons ( of 200 ) . Probably bought for around a euro each in the Philipines = € 600,000

Market value here = € 600,000 x € 80 per carton = € 48m


correct me if I am wrong

€84.50 on average.

/pedantic.

shindig-jp

Anne Scan is now underway for Dublin
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?zoom=10&mmsi=304256000&centerx=-6.13488&centery=54.03344

laugh

shindig-jp wrote: »

Anne Scan is now underway for Dublin
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?zoom=10&mmsi=304256000&centerx=-6.13488&centery=54.03344

Looks a handy thing for a pirate.

So where is that ship full of iphones?; click.

allthedoyles

Well speeaking of iPhones , etc ,

there was a guy today on the N11 approaching truck drivers offering iPods at discounted prices