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stopped by gardai, no driving licence

  • 27-10-2009 1:43pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭


    coming back sunday night from dublin to limerick I was stopped for speeding (driving just below 140kph on motorway) by an unmarked garda car.
    they asked for a driving licence and a insurance certificate, I didnt have any of those

    I was told by the garda that I need to produce those within ten days to my local garda station, and if I do I will avoid the penalty (they let me go with a warning)

    my questions:
    1) how they will know I did that, as its my local station
    2) why do they need the cert of insurance? I have asked if I need it with me when Im driving and been told that I dont. why they are asking for it? is the disc not enough?

    cheers,
    fl4pj4ck


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭irisheddie85


    them asking for you to produce goes on the garda computer system. If you dont produce they will know as it will be on the computer.
    You dont have to bring your cert with you but it is standard to have to show it to prove you are actually insured on the policy as your name isn't on the disk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 117 ✭✭zoemax


    I was told by the garda that I need to produce those within ten days to my local garda station, and if I do I will avoid the penalty (they let me go with a warning)

    Thats what you think. I had a similar comment from a Garda when I got caught for driving whilst on the mobile.......a few weeks later got a fixed penalty notice in the post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭fl4pj4ck


    yeah, thats my thinking as well, but will keep fingers crossed for couple months :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    You are supposed to carry your licence so he can fine you for that whether you produce it or not later. In relation to insurance, you are not required to carry the cert in the car but you must produce the cert when asked as that is the only way to prove you are actually on the policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Wait for credit card licenses some time in the future... swipe, automatic points and insurance co is notified!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    Op.. out of curiousity

    do you have both??? insurance that covers you and a Driving licence??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭fl4pj4ck


    yes, I do have both, and it was my car I was driving (nctd and texed as well)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Produce them and you'll be fine then. I hope they let you off with the speeding issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    zoemax wrote: »
    Thats what you think. I had a similar comment from a Garda when I got caught for driving whilst on the mobile.......a few weeks later got a fixed penalty notice in the post.

    Yeah, same here. Guard let me away with doing 80km in a 70km just off the Swords road there and got summons to appear in Balbriggan.

    I went along on the day and got talking to a guard outside and mentioned it to him and he told me to go up to him and just tell him. So I did and he din't remember it so just told him everything I remembered like he told me they had just come out that day and told it was the first day at that spot and so on.

    I was just trying to jog his memory but don't think I did. Anyway, he just said 'okay, go on -I'll sort it' and that was that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭rebel.ranter


    fl4pj4ck wrote: »
    .... and texed as well...

    texed...he he

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    OP if he let you off with a warning then you are more than likely OK if you produce your details. Failure to produce will lead to a summons & you'll be facing the speeding charge & a "failure to produce" type of charge*.


    (* I'm sure one of our resident men in blue will give proper names to the charges)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Nico22 wrote: »
    Yeah, same here. Guard let me away with doing 80km in a 70km just off the Swords road there and got summons to appear in Balbriggan.

    I went along on the day and got talking to a guard outside and mentioned it to him and he told me to go up to him and just tell him. So I did and he din't remember it so just told him everything I remembered like he told me they had just come out that day and told it was the first day at that spot and so on.

    I was just trying to jog his memory but don't think I did. Anyway, he just said 'okay, go on -I'll sort it' and that was that.

    There is no such legal concept as a 70km/h limit, you'd have had an extremely easy trip through court if that isn't a typo!

    OP - presumably you nominated your 'local' station to the Guard that stopped you? They check with said station if it doesn't end up in Pulse (I have no idea if they go and enter it all in, seeing as when I had to produce insurance it was just noted in a paper duty log).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    They usually ask you to nominate your local station. The Garda will have entered his end into PULSE at his station and it will wait now until you produce your bits and bobs at your station.

    Go in with the paperwork and keep your fingers crossed that he'll drop the thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    MYOB wrote: »
    There is no such legal concept as a 70km/h limit, you'd have had an extremely easy trip through court if that isn't a typo!

    Well, I went down without arranging a solicitor so whatever they would have said I would have pleaded guilty to. If the Guard hadn't of given me the benift of the doubt then I would have just took it on the chin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Nico22 wrote: »
    Well, I went down without arranging a solicitor so whatever they would have said I would have pleaded guilty to. If the Guard hadn't of given me the benift of the doubt then I would have just took it on the chin.

    Well, if it happens to you again, only 30, 50, 60, 80, 100 and 120 are 'real' speed limits. There's even a few rogue 70km/h speed limit signs around, but they're neither legal signs nor a valid limit!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    MYOB wrote: »
    Well, if it happens to you again, only 30, 50, 60, 80, 100 and 120 are 'real' speed limits. There's even a few rogue 70km/h speed limit signs around, but they're neither legal signs nor a valid limit!

    I shall keep that in mind MYOB.

    Be it on you head though, if some cold night you get a phone call from me, complaining that I'm in a Garda station, after been arrested for giving lip about 70km limit not actually being a legal concept :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭fl4pj4ck


    MYOB wrote: »
    ... (I have no idea if they go and enter it all in, seeing as when I had to produce insurance it was just noted in a paper duty log).

    same here, this is the reason I was asking, it looked to me as she wrote down the whole conversation

    I just find it very funny that guards has to spend ages on:
    1) writing all the conversation details down
    2) putting them onto the pulse
    3) going back in ten days or so to check if I provided the insurance details or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭congo_90


    steve06 wrote: »
    Wait for credit card licenses some time in the future... swipe, automatic points and insurance co is notified!

    Well makes life easier rather than having to ring up insurance co :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,091 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    fl4pj4ck wrote: »
    same here, this is the reason I was asking, it looked to me as she wrote down the whole conversation...
    I'd say what she was writing was your details (name, address, car reg, station you nominated) and her own notes about any possible offence.

    Not your ornery onager



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