Should striking public sector workers have their pay withdrawn?

Mairead1975

Hi

The government has suggested that should the public sector workers go on strike, they will not be paid for the days they spend on the picket line.

Do you think this is bully tactics by the government or do you think it's how things would work in a struggling private sector business???

Would like to hear peoples thoughts

Thanks
Mairead

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Mairead1975 wrote: »

Hi

The government has suggested that should the public sector workers go on strike, they will not be paid for the days they spend on the picket line.

Do you think this is bully tactics by the government or do you think it's how things would work in a struggling private sector business???

Would like to hear peoples thoughts

Thanks
Mairead

You expect them to be paid while on strike?

Tom Dunne

Working in a Real World Job(TM), they have this crazy thing going that if I don't do my job, they don't pay me.

Oh, and if I continually fail to perform my duties, they also have this notion of firing me.

Crazy stuff, really.

leeroybrown

I certainly wouldn't expect them to be paid if they chose to strike in the current economic climate. It'll be funny to see the Unions refusing to put their hand in the strike fund yet again despite covering employee pay being one of it's core purposes. I reckon most Unions have squandered half their strike fund during the 'good times' and lost the other half in the stock markets.

gandalf

If you aren't working then you shouldn't be paid.

The_Conductor

If public sector workers strike- they don't get paid.
The suggestion that this is somehow a punishment couldn't be further from the truth- they have never been paid when they go on strike. In the civil service- the strike by the CPSU last year, resulted in 2 days pay being withdrawn from striking members- and managers were approached by personnel for details of staff who were not present on the notified strike days (which included some PSEU members). In all cases- pay was withdrawn for those days unless the staff member was on certified sick leave, or previously sanctioned annual leave.

If public sector workers strike- they don't get paid- period. Nothing new there. The thing thats strange is the song and dance the Irish Independent and some other media outlets are making about pay being witheld from striking workers- its a non-story- but they are selling it as something entirely different to the public at large......

leeroybrown

It's not so much a non-story, rather another volley of spin to prepare the public for the budget.

The_Conductor

leeroybrown wrote: »

It's not so much a non-story, rather another volley of spin to prepare the public for the budget.

The public really are being fed a crock of scheisse by the government and the media. Its amazing that they are being allowed get away with it. Of course it suits the government to pillory the public sector- as it detracts from the massive incompetence they have displayed on a grand scale (and continue to do so). The public believe the civil servants are culpable for the mess the country are in- when their actual remit is simply to implement government policy, full stop.

I know several civil servants who would actively welcome the IMF coming in and taking over from the government- at least we wouldn't have backflips every few hours- policies would be devised and followed through on.

Has anyone seen Noel Dempsey get a roasting from FF backbenchers over incredibly intelligent proposals to reduce the blood-alcohol limit to 50Mg/l (from its current 80Mg level).

Parochial politics and gombeenism has ruined this country- and continues to do so.

Nody

Sorry for anyone hoping for IMF to sort out the issues but that will simply not happen. What IMF will do is they will sit the politicans down, tell them the reality of things and tell them that they need to cut expenses by X %. This is where most things goees unhinged as the politicans refuse to accept the reality and take the deal.

It is then up to the politicans to implement the budget cuts required it to get access to the money or not but IMF don't run the place. All they say is your budget needs to be reduced by X%, we recommend doing it by doing this but if they decide to cut differntly it don't really matter a whole lot to the IMF as long as it brings the country back more or less.

doolox

The trouble with Ireland is that it is not as densely populated as other European countries with 50mg limits, hence a lot of otherwise sane people chance having one or two drinks and then drive home afterwords.
There is a world of difference between driving home from a pub in Dublin or other cities wit highspeed dualcarriage ways and motorways full of traffic, and driving down a contry boreen in the middle of nowhere.
Unfortunately the law cannot be written to account for the difference in risk and must have a uniform limit.

Public transport needs to be improved in rural areas as well as the new limit being imposed to stop drink driving.

The_Conductor

doolox wrote: »

The trouble with Ireland is that it is not as densely populated as other European countries with 50mg limits, hence a lot of otherwise sane people chance having one or two drinks and then drive home afterwords.
There is a world of difference between driving home from a pub in Dublin or other cities wit highspeed dualcarriage ways and motorways full of traffic, and driving down a contry boreen in the middle of nowhere.
Unfortunately the law cannot be written to account for the difference in risk and must have a uniform limit.

Public transport needs to be improved in rural areas as well as the new limit being imposed to stop drink driving.

You have dual carriageways in the middle of nowhere in Kerry- I for one don't think your argument that Dublin is some sort of a speedzone has any merits- its equally applicable in many parts of the country.

MysticalRain

We have dual carriageways in Kerry? I'd like to see them

I really don't see why this is "news". Probably just more political spin from the same newspaper that told us the property bubble was never going to end. Sometimes I despair for Irish journalism.