Only in Ireland could you get a pic like this...

MarkN · 20-10-2009 7:37pm #1

donmeister · 20-10-2009 7:38pm

And only in America the horse would be on top of the man :pac:

citizen_p · 20-10-2009 7:43pm

the horses house was recently repossesed ... leave him alone

citizen_p · 20-10-2009 7:45pm

oh fishnets on a horse....it must be a whore horse...heard of studs but this :eek:

ballsymchugh · 20-10-2009 7:45pm

i did see a pink funeral go past where i worked in britland last year. but mr collopy's was a bit obscene alright.
as for the guard at the atm.. at least they waited in the queue!!

hightower1 · 20-10-2009 7:48pm

Typical gards, its illegal to have a horse on a footpath in Ireland in fact any place where the public should not encounter a horse as standard (+3 years of riding experience) . The horse could be spooked by anything, car backfire, car crash, kid runs up to pet it.... anything.
The horse could kick , kill or seriously injure a child etc.....but sure hey.... ehhhhyyy its the guards right! they get away with anything they want. The horses hind quarter facing a bleeding doorway none the less where people will walk through.... not hard to imagine yer man there about to get a hoof to the guts.

As much as I hate scumbags I smile when I see them hassling a cop, at least one type of scumbag is hassling another.

Fozzie Bear · 20-10-2009 9:01pm

hightower1 wrote: »

Typical gards, its illegal to have a horse on a footpath in Ireland in fact any place where the public should not encounter a horse as standard (+3 years of riding experience) . The horse could be spooked by anything, car backfire, car crash, kid runs up to pet it.... anything.
The horse could kick , kill or seriously injure a child etc.....but sure hey.... ehhhhyyy its the guards right! they get away with anything they want. The horses hind quarter facing a bleeding doorway none the less where people will walk through.... not hard to imagine yer man there about to get a hoof to the guts.

As much as I hate scumbags I smile when I see them hassling a cop, at least one type of scumbag is hassling another.

Christ. There is so much wrong factually and otherwise wrong with the above statement I can't be ar$ed pointing it out to you. Did a Garda horse happen to kick you in the head? It might explain a lot of the above drivel and hatred....

[Jackass] · 20-10-2009 9:34pm

Jesus, a pikey funeral with a tinker on a pieball horse in fishnet stockings and a coffin in the back of a white hiace...short of a lad being bottled in the corner, it sums it up pretty well I reckon.

This wasn't taken in Limerick by any chance, was it? :pac:

hightower1 · 20-10-2009 9:49pm

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

Christ. There is so much wrong factually and otherwise wrong with the above statement I can't be ar$ed pointing it out to you. Did a Garda horse happen to kick you in the head? It might explain a lot of the above drivel and hatred....

Oh please go ahead and list the factual errors please lol...:rolleyes:

hightower1 · 21-10-2009 1:57pm

hightower1 wrote: »

Oh please go ahead and list the factual errors please lol...:rolleyes:

Yup, long on talk short on actuall answers. In future if your going to claim factual errors please dont make a fool of yourself by having nothing to back it up with, its cringe worthy.

IvySlayer · 21-10-2009 4:09pm

hightower1 wrote: »

Typical gards, its illegal to have a horse on a footpath in Ireland in fact any place where the public should not encounter a horse as standard (+3 years of riding experience) . The horse could be spooked by anything, car backfire, car crash, kid runs up to pet it.... anything.
The horse could kick , kill or seriously injure a child etc.....but sure hey.... ehhhhyyy its the guards right! they get away with anything they want. The horses hind quarter facing a bleeding doorway none the less where people will walk through.... not hard to imagine yer man there about to get a hoof to the guts.

As much as I hate scumbags I smile when I see them hassling a cop, at least one type of scumbag is hassling another.

Horses are trained only to react on command. You really think they'd allow them to ride them in public through Dublin City if they were easily spooked?

As for the rest..can't be bothered.

What does a Garda need with money on duty anyway? Or maybe he was doing some investigating..

Donny5 · 21-10-2009 4:12pm

IvySlayer wrote: »

What does a Garda need with money on duty anyway? Or maybe he was doing some investigating..

To buy horse biscuits?

fryup · 21-10-2009 5:23pm

bernard manning once said that "the irish, always give great material"

liah · 21-10-2009 6:04pm

hightower1 wrote: »

Typical gards, its illegal to have a horse on a footpath in Ireland in fact any place where the public should not encounter a horse as standard (+3 years of riding experience) . The horse could be spooked by anything, car backfire, car crash, kid runs up to pet it.... anything.
The horse could kick , kill or seriously injure a child etc.....but sure hey.... ehhhhyyy its the guards right! they get away with anything they want. The horses hind quarter facing a bleeding doorway none the less where people will walk through.... not hard to imagine yer man there about to get a hoof to the guts.

As much as I hate scumbags I smile when I see them hassling a cop, at least one type of scumbag is hassling another.

I've been riding and working with horses for nearly fourteen or fifteen years (kind of lost track at this point). The majority of those years were working with young/green horses from the ground up.

1) Police horses are trained to be completely bombproof. Have you seen some of the training courses they're put through? Do you not realize that very, very often horses are used against large crowds and riots? These aren't your backyard schoolhorses. These horses have been trained against fire, bombs, gunshots, everything a police horse could encounter. Yes, they are animals, and they can be unpredictable, but the chances of that happening with the amount of experience those animals have is pretty much zero.

2) The horse isn't going to bloody kick a child, it wouldn't be a police horse if it was inclined to do so. Again, these aren't your typical backyard schoolhorses who get narky and toss out a bitter kick if you do up their girth too tight or if another horse comes up their arse.

3) While horses may not be allowed on public footpaths, these horses aren't considered actual horses-- they're technically members of the force and thus are exempt from typical rulings.

All that said, the gard is kind of taking advantage of the situation. Still, I can't envision any danger out of that scenario.

In the future if you're going to claim factual errors please don't make a fool of yourself by having nothing to back it up with, it's cringe worthy.

seanybiker · 21-10-2009 6:09pm

liah wrote: »

In the future if you're going to claim factual errors please don't make a fool of yourself by having nothing to back it up with, it's cringe worthy.

Good on ya. Cant stand people bitching about cops, hoping to get a thanks for it to satisfy their e-ego

hightower1 · 22-10-2009 2:04am

liah wrote: »

I've been riding and working with horses for nearly fourteen or fifteen years (kind of lost track at this point). The majority of those years were working with young/green horses from the ground up.

1) Police horses are trained to be completely bombproof. Have you seen some of the training courses they're put through? Do you not realize that very, very often horses are used against large crowds and riots? These aren't your backyard schoolhorses. These horses have been trained against fire, bombs, gunshots, everything a police horse could encounter. Yes, they are animals, and they can be unpredictable, but the chances of that happening with the amount of experience those animals have is pretty much zero.

2) The horse isn't going to bloody kick a child, it wouldn't be a police horse if it was inclined to do so. Again, these aren't your typical backyard schoolhorses who get narky and toss out a bitter kick if you do up their girth too tight or if another horse comes up their arse.

3) While horses may not be allowed on public footpaths, these horses aren't considered actual horses-- they're technically members of the force and thus are exempt from typical rulings.

All that said, the gard is kind of taking advantage of the situation. Still, I can't envision any danger out of that scenario.

In the future if you're going to claim factual errors please don't make a fool of yourself by having nothing to back it up with, it's cringe worthy.

What a load... one of the main responsibilities of a garda is to ensure that the public is not endangered unduly by another person clearly taking a large powerful animal on to a public footpath at whats obviously a busy time of day is dangerous.

liah wrote: »

The horse isn't going to bloody kick a child, it wouldn't be a police horse if it was inclined to do so

So a horse trained or not is not capable of doing something unexpected no???? By that logic planes are designed never to crash .. oh wait... **** happens. Again see above point about not putting the public in harms way no matter how negligible the risk is its still unnecessary in this case.

liah wrote: »

these horses aren't considered actual horses

Lol lol lol, so a garda car isnt technical considered a car??? wow thats cool, does it mean they can drift on to a foot path to get cash from a pass machine... if its not technically a car that is they wont be breaking any motor traffic laws that is.
Another fine example of common sense having no relation to intelligence.

Bottom line is this is unsafe... its unnecessary and all the training in the world cannot provide 100% that no one would be hurt here.

@seanybiker : did I ask anyone for thanks? Did I even ask a question at all in fact? NO. You assumed that all by yourself based on nothing at all.
Ya know one this that gets me going... people who make assumptions based on what they believe someones intention really is while standing round patting people on the back like they had a clue in the first place just so they can feel part of something. Posting a reply on a public form with an opinion last I checked wasnt a need for approval or thanks especially when none was asked for... you on the other hand congratulating a complete stranger on a counter argument which is fundamentally flawed is clearly a desperate need to feel belonging to a particular view or opinion while simultaneously hiding the fact that you had no points of your own to make.

Cunny-Funt · 22-10-2009 2:59am

I thanked you

Out of PITY:mad:

Agent Smith · 22-10-2009 3:04am

liah wrote: »

3) While horses may not be allowed on public footpaths, these horses aren't considered actual horses-- they're technically members of the force and thus are exempt from typical rulings.

Does that mean they Get to Rush around with their sirens wailing bring food back to the station to? :pac:

liah · 22-10-2009 3:14am

You can't actually be serious...? I'll probably get banned but sure, I'll tackle it. I'll try and make it easier to understand (though my first post lined it out quite clearly in the first place.. oh well.)

hightower1 wrote: »

What a load... one of the main responsibilities of a garda is to ensure that the public is not endangered unduly by another person clearly taking a large powerful animal on to a public footpath at whats obviously a busy time of day is dangerous.

So a horse trained or not is not capable of doing something unexpected no???? By that logic planes are designed never to crash .. oh wait... **** happens. Again see above point about not putting the public in harms way no matter how negligible the risk is its still unnecessary in this case.

Humans can be trained and still react unpredictably (even towards themselves) in any given situation. Does this mean they are officially a danger to society? Everyone makes mistakes. The same applies to horses. The chances of these mistakes happening are reduced to a near absolute zero. This makes it as safe as ANYTHING could possibly be, even mechanical things backfire. You even made the point in your post-- planes crash, but people still use them because, FOR THE MOST PART, they are a safe mode of transport. Nothing is 100% failsafe. Do you see? You managed to contradict yourself and prove my point. Are you drunk?

Lol lol lol, so a garda car isnt technical considered a car??? wow thats cool, does it mean they can drift on to a foot path to get cash from a pass machine... if its not technically a car that is they wont be breaking any motor traffic laws that is.

...Whoosh.
A horse, when it is used for the mounted police, is considered a member of the police force, NOT an object such as a car. It obtains the rights that any other member of staff has, or at least on the same level as police dogs (curious, do you disagree with police dogs being used in airports because OMG, they might hurt the public?) You're not comparing like with like, and to be completely honest, your entire argument is completely flawed and makes absolutely no sense at all.

Another fine example of common sense having no relation to intelligence.

Shouldn't self-deprecate like that.

Bottom line is this is unsafe... its unnecessary and all the training in the world cannot provide 100% that no one would be hurt here.

So, by your logic, no people, dogs, cars, motorcycles, planes, guns, or any other thing the police force consists of can be used (and ESPECIALLY no horses!), because none of these beings or items are 100% safe.

Makes perfect sense... :rolleyes: Why not just lock yourself in a padded room if you're that untrusting of everything?

Also, I'm pretty sure the fact that horses have been used in law enforcement for centuries means that time has proven that it is effective. They wouldn't be used to this day if they weren't. Have you ever even heard of an incident with a police horse? You know, that didn't involve some idiot punching the animal in the face? Because it comes up so rarely that I honestly can't think of a single thing.

Here you are, thinking you know better than the heads of police, police members, and mounted officers themselves with their years of experience, extensive training on analyzing dangerous situations, and centuries worth of trusted use.

Don't argue things you very, very clearly know absolutely sweet fúck all about.

The_B_Man · 22-10-2009 5:58am

lol burned!

Zulu · 22-10-2009 6:31am

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

I thanked you

Out of PITY:mad:

+1 ZZZzzziinngg.
What a classic post. Good man Cunny Funt.
From a "hightower" to a "smacked down".

Zulu · 22-10-2009 6:41am

hightower1 wrote: »

As much as I hate scumbags I smile when I see them hassling a cop, at least one type of scumbag is hassling another.

The height of e-nobbery! :rolleyes:

oxis · 22-10-2009 1:05pm

Brilliant thread!! Haha

helimachoptor · 22-10-2009 1:54pm

liah wrote: »

...Whoosh.
A horse, when it is used for the mounted police, is considered a member of the police force, NOT an object such as a car. It obtains the rights that any other member of staff has, or at least on the same level as police dogs (curious, do you disagree with police dogs being used in airports because OMG, they might hurt the public?) You're not comparing like with like, and to be completely honest, your entire argument is completely flawed and makes absolutely no sense at all.

Basically any animal used in the execution of a members duties is considered a member. So basically a horse, a dog unit etc those animals are considered members of the force.

liah · 22-10-2009 1:58pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Basically any animal used in the execution of a members duties is considered a member. So basically a horse, a dog unit etc those animals are considered members of the force.

Thanks for that, that's what I thought; to be honest I was kind of talking out of my arse on that one because I don't know the Irish law on the topic, only the Canadian one, which states the above. I assumed it to be at least similar here so ran with it. Glad I turned out to have made a fairly good guess. :pac:

DevilsBreath · 22-10-2009 2:30pm

Though this little link might help

Mounted Support Unit

hairyfairy00 · 22-10-2009 3:36pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzYzVMcgWhg

Fozzie Bear · 23-10-2009 8:35am

hightower1 wrote: »

(+3 years of riding experience)....

Hmmmm. Riding a pikey piebald around the halting site does not really count.

hightower1 wrote: »

Yup, long on talk short on actuall answers.

Long on talk?? There was about 5 lines in that reply. As for not answering I have a life outside of debating issues with the likes of you on the web. My apologies for not coming back sooner. Surprisingly you are not the number 1 issue on my mind and keeping me awake at night.

hightower1 wrote: »

In future if your going to claim factual errors please dont make a fool of yourself by having nothing to back it up with, its cringe worthy.

What is cringe worthy is your blind ignorance to the obvious.

Liah's response would have been mine verbatim had I replied. But the predictable thing happened when Liah did point out the bloody obvious. You being what you are came back with another load of horse dung in response.

For me its basically a case of the old saying about never arguing with fools. They will drag you down to their level and then beat with experience. This certainly applies to you.

23-10-2009 10:57am

fuking hell what a crap thread from a promising start. this is like reading youtube comments.

MarkN · 23-10-2009 11:47pm

Lads FFS it was meant to be a funny thread, will you take the horse play elsewhere please.

RonMexico · 24-10-2009 12:05am

hightower1 wrote: »

Yup, long on talk short on actuall answers. In future if your going to claim factual errors please dont make a fool of yourself by having nothing to back it up with, its cringe worthy.

Quoting yourself is far more cringeworthy.

hightower1 · 24-10-2009 3:56pm

lol lol lol what a love in!

I'm laughing my arse off at this ... if anyone seriously thinks there is nothing wrong with that pic yer heads need checked.

lol lol lol lol.

RonMexico · 24-10-2009 6:24pm

What is your major malfunction?

liah · 24-10-2009 6:40pm

hightower1 wrote: »

lol lol lol what a love in!

I'm laughing my arse off at this ... if anyone seriously thinks there is nothing wrong with that pic yer heads need checked.

lol lol lol lol.

Yup, long on talk short on actual answers sense. I like how the only way you can respond is with an immature ton of lols because you can't honestly refute anything I've written because you know you're wrong.

hightower1 · 24-10-2009 7:27pm

Sure babes lol lol lol

To tell you the truth I simply couldn't care less if a complete stranger agrees with my opinions or not .... learn from it .
Strangers arent worth that much of my time especially on a sat night! i dont feel a pressing need to have people agree with my opinions like some kind or rain man for forums tbh. Arguments with strangers are very low down of my list of things to do with my spare time.... perhaps you should take back up that hobby. lol lol lol lol.

DublinWriter · 24-10-2009 7:36pm

I always find it amusing how amazed people are when they see guards doing normal stuff such as using an ATM or a coffee machine in a garage.

Pacing Mule · 25-10-2009 11:24am

hightower1 wrote: »

As much as I hate scumbags I smile when I see them hassling a cop, at least one type of scumbag is hassling another.

So you advocate the hassling of the guards - it makes you smile because they're as bad as the scumbags they are trying to protect you from.

It seems to me from that post you've the same mentallity as those who you smile at.

Cunny-Funt · 25-10-2009 6:02pm

hightower1 wrote: »

Arguments with strangers are very low down of my list of things to do with my spare time..

Don't start them then, although I'm sure you're opinion on this would be different if you were actually able to make a worth while argument instead of being utterly destroyed.
Thus pulling the "lololol I don't care" maneuver. Instead of pulling the "fair enough I stand corrected" one as this is what someone who did not actually care about being wrong would say.

Sea Sharp · 25-10-2009 11:49pm

lol, this thread is like a car-crash. You can't look away.

Only in Ireland could you get a pic like this...

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