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A loan company charging 2356% APR!!!

  • 20-10-2009 3:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭


    Just seen this advertised on the tv and went onto their web site http://www.quickquid.co.uk/fee-schedule.html
    I know this is in england but does anyone know, if these companies are in Ireland. and if so has anyone used a company like them?

    They even give people money to refer their friends.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I don't understand APR.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭ANXIOUS


    WindSock wrote: »
    I don't understand APR.

    It stands for annual percentage rating i find it hard to explain but here is a good website http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/money-and-tax/personal-finance/loans-and-credit/APR


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I hope for their suckers' customers' sake, that they've shifted the decimal point 2 spaces to the left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭ANXIOUS


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    I hope for their suckers' customers' sake, that they've shifted the decimal point 2 spaces to the left.

    Thats why i went onto the site, i thought that they forgot to put the decimal in. Everything on the site is geared for the borrower to get stuck in a rut.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    seems reasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    I don't know what a tracker mortgage is..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭ANXIOUS


    I don't know what a tracker mortgage is..

    Cue "daddy whats a euro"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    I don't know what a tracker mortgage is..
    Old joke is old


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    ANXIOUS wrote: »
    Cue "daddy whats a euro"

    AWwww, I dunnnnohhh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭ANXIOUS


    WindSock wrote: »
    AWwww, I dunnnnohhh

    Finance really isnt your thing windsock :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    This is the most interesting thread that's ever been on boards.







    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    You pay them back 2 days later though so how much are you paying in real terms?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭Dartz


    If you take a loan at that rate, you deserve what happens to you. How in the hell is anybody supposed to pay that off, unless they're paying it within a week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Is this a legitimate company? Or is it one of those 'We'll break your legs' types of companies pretending to be legitimate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    im going to apply for a chicken.

    I wonder how they will calculate APR on that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭rainbowdrop


    ANXIOUS wrote: »
    Just seen this advertised on the tv and went onto their web site http://www.quickquid.co.uk/fee-schedule.html
    I know this is in england but does anyone know, if these companies are in Ireland. and if so has anyone used a company like them?

    They even give people money to refer their friends.

    Yep!! Saw that ad yesterday and assumed they'd left a decimal point out..... That surely CAN'T be right, can it?:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    snyper wrote: »
    im going to apply for a chicken.

    I wonder how they will calculate APR on that?
    6 eggs a day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭kenon


    Its for small loans over a short period of time.

    5/6 a side football

    Coolmine Sports Centre - Wednesdays - 8pm

    PM me for a game

    Thread



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    In fairness to the company, it's designed for people who are a bit short towards the end of the month before pay day and it gets paid back after a couple of days. If they were charging standard interest rates it would only be about a euro interest and it wouldn't be worth their while doing it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    My maths might be wrong, but i work it out as; Borrow €1000 for one week and pay back €1450.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    In one example on the site you get 200 quid, pay back 50 on your next payday and 250 the following payday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Dartz wrote: »
    If you take a loan at that rate, you deserve what happens to you. How in the hell is anybody supposed to pay that off, unless they're paying it within a week?
    Borrow to play the Lotto might work................:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    (first post in AH, be gentle!)
    Yep!! Saw that ad yesterday and assumed they'd left a decimal point out..... That surely CAN'T be right, can it?
    I'm afraid the 4-digit APR is correct. In the example they give on the listed page (borrow £200 on May 3rd , pay £50 at next pay day (I've assumed it to be May 30th) and then pay £250 on June 30th), the daily interest rate turns out to be approximately .78%. To calculate an APR (the annual percentage rate), you have to multiply 1.0078 by itself 365 times, which (according to my trusty calculator) is 16.95, or expressed as a percent, 1695%.

    That's about 100 times more expensive than a credit card, and 200 times more than a personal loan. I thought there were laws against this kind of excessive interest. Perhaps by calling it a "finance charge" they circumvent usury laws.

    Boring maths bit here (read at your own peril)
    if i is the *daily* interest rate, then for the situation above:
    200 = 50/(1+i)^27 + 250/(1+i)^58.
    Solving for i (I used Excel's goal seek), you get i = 0.007784631652209.
    As above, (1+i)^365 = 16.9520373993902, or 1695%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Burkey0


    Zack Morris up to his usual tricks again I see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭rainbowdrop


    Yakuza wrote: »
    (first post in AH, be gentle!)

    I'm afraid the 4-digit APR is correct. In the example they give on the listed page (borrow £200 on May 3rd , pay £50 at next pay day (I've assumed it to be May 30th) and then pay £250 on June 30th), the daily interest rate turns out to be approximately .78%. To calculate an APR (the annual percentage rate), you have to multiply 1.0078 by itself 365 times, which (according to my trusty calculator) is 16.95, or expressed as a percent, 1695%.

    That's about 100 times more expensive than a credit card, and 200 times more than a personal loan. I thought there were laws against this kind of excessive interest. Perhaps by calling it a "finance charge" they circumvent usury laws.

    Boring maths bit here (read at your own peril)
    if i is the *daily* interest rate, then for the situation above:
    200 = 50/(1+i)^27 + 250/(1+i)^58.
    Solving for i (I used Excel's goal seek), you get i = 0.007784631652209.
    As above, (1+i)^365 = 16.9520373993902, or 1695%

    Visualising you pushing your specs back up your nose while you were typing that a la Mad Professor!! lol

    Wish I had you with me when I was sitting my business calculations exam last June. Could have really used your help, you sound like a very intelligent wo(man)....

    :D


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