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Graphics card Swapover
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20-10-2009 11:47am#1
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+1. Why nVidia specifically? The 8800GT (and 9800GT, and GTS240...) are in a bad position with the HD4830 (where its still stocked) usually coming in cheaper and slightly better and the HD4850 and HD4770 coming in at roughly the same price or a couple of € more and giving much greater performance? Where you can find it cheaply (there's big variations in price) the HD4770 is an especially apt choice owing to its low power consumption. Hell, even a HD4670 will do at 1280*1024 and below and be an epic improvement over your current card!
How much RAM do you have installed in there anyway? That looks like a cheaper X1650 which has DDR2 memory, which really doesn't help things! To make matters worse its a parasitic card, with the ability to supplement its own half-GB of slow-ass memory with 1.5GB of even slower system memory! The X1650 is better off with 256MB of fast GDDR3 than 512MB of slow-ass DDR2. Stealing 1.5GB of system RAM that would be far better off serving Windows and your applications is just nuts! :eek:
Put it like this: Allowing your X1650 to steal added system RAM is making things a lot worse, not better! And the only way to "make it better" is to increase the clock speed of the GPU or the memory already on the card. I'd rather buy a better card as even a hefty OC isn't going to give you the performance of a stock-clocked €60 new card :P0 -
+1. Why nVidia specifically? The 8800GT (and 9800GT, and GTS240...) are in a bad position with the HD4830 (where its still stocked) usually coming in cheaper and slightly better and the HD4850 and HD4770 coming in at roughly the same price or a couple of € more and giving much greater performance? Where you can find it cheaply (there's big variations in price) the HD4770 is an especially apt choice owing to its low power consumption. Hell, even a HD4670 will do at 1280*1024 and below and be an epic improvement over your current card!
How much RAM do you have installed in there anyway? That looks like a cheaper X1650 which has DDR2 memory, which really doesn't help things! To make matters worse its a parasitic card, with the ability to supplement its own half-GB of slow-ass memory with 1.5GB of even slower system memory! The X1650 is better off with 256MB of fast GDDR3 than 512MB of slow-ass DDR2. Stealing 1.5GB of system RAM that would be far better off serving Windows and your applications is just nuts! :eek:
Put it like this: Allowing your X1650 to steal added system RAM is making things a lot worse, not better! And the only way to "make it better" is to increase the clock speed of the GPU or the memory already on the card. I'd rather buy a better card as even a hefty OC isn't going to give you the performance of a stock-clocked €60 new card :P
Hi Solitaire,
Well as I say I am not very knowledgeable when it comes to this type of thing to be honest.
I guess I have jumped to Nvidia, because my first card was Nvidia and I liked it a lot. That said the 1650 is ok but far from great, I did look at the HD4770 I think it is and it looks very good for the price, but my opinion of ATI is tainted due to fact of what I am using at the moment.
The 4770 did look good though.
I would be not be playing hardcore games, maybe Flight Sim 2004 (Don't Like FSX) Really I just want to get a flawless Flight Sim with a few addons.
My monitor is HPw1907v with a res of 1440*900
I have 4GB of RAM0 -
Hi
I have been looking at the HD4770 and for the price, it seems the appropriate choice.
However when I browse around I find things like the
PowerColor Radeon HD 4770 512MB GDDR5
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Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 512MB GDDR5
and
ASUS Radeon HD 4770 512MB GDDR5
What is the story? Are they the same or different in some way?0 -
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The graphics card will make the biggest difference to gaming but will always be bottlenecked by chip/motherboard/ram etc on slower machines.
What chip do you have now?
Your Google-Fu fails :P
Its an a6085 so I'm guessing an E6700, minimum. So a 65nm 2.66GHz C2D. Not a bad start and highly unlikely to bottleneck a HD4770
On the other hand the mobo is a PoS OEM 945G. Old, old chipset and the OP has one of the best CPUs available for it already on it. The day they finally need a CPU upgrade, they're looking at changing the mobo, PSU and God knows what else as well
But that won't bottleneck a HD4770 either :P0 -
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