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Is it an penalty or not?

  • 18-10-2009 6:37pm
    #1
    manutd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭


    If the goalkepper over-carring the ball, by walking up the goal line, is it
    1) A penalty.
    2) A 13 metre free-kick.
    3) Or, if a soccer goalkepper picks up a backback, it is a free kick from that piont on the frield.

    Thanks lads.
    manutd


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  • #2
    onehundred
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭onehundred


    Not sure what you mean by 'walking up the goal line' but if a goalie overcarries then it's a 20m free in hurling (6 allowed in goal) or a 13m free in football (not a penalty). That's my understanding anyway...


  • #3
    Ian_K
    Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Ian_K


    if the ball is over-carried inside the large rectangle it's a 13m free but if the ball is over-carrier inside the small area then it's a penalty as that is deemed a technical foul


  • #4
    macadam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭macadam


    Any foul inside the small square by the GK is a penalty ie over carrying, charging,two hops throw ball etc.


  • #5
    crocs2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭crocs2010


    If the keeper fouls the ball at all...i.e. over carrying..its a penalty to the best of my knowledge!


  • #6
    rexel1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 45 ✭rexel1


    Penalty in football if the ball is fouled inside the small square. 20m free in hurling


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  • #7
    Gingy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Gingy


    rexel1 wrote: »
    Penalty in football if the ball is fouled inside the small square. 20m free in hurling

    That's what I always thought as well.


  • #8
    mrgaa1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭mrgaa1


    any foul in the small square is a penalty - no matter which code.
    In the larger square any technical foul is a free - 13m football, 20m hurling
    An aggressive foul in the large square in both codes is a penalty


  • #9
    cactus jack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭cactus jack


    in the large rectangle any personal foul is a penalty while any technical foul is a free [over carrying, pick up, throwing the ball...]

    in the small rectangle any personal or technical foul is a penalty.

    applies to both codes.

    don't know about the soccer ruling.


  • #10
    rexel1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 45 ✭rexel1


    Sorry Cactus Jack and MrGaa1 but you are wrong. Rules for Hurling and Football ARE DIFFERENT

    FOOTBALL


    2.2 After a foul, play is restarted by a free kick or a
    throw-in where the foul(s) occurred.

    EXCEPTIONS


    (i) In the case of fouls by a defending player
    within the rectangles, the following shall
    apply:
    A penalty kick shall be awarded for an
    Aggressive Foul within the large rectangle
    or any foul within the small rectangle.
    The penalty kick shall be taken from the
    ground at the centre point of the 13m line.
    A free kick from the centre of the 13m line
    shall be awarded for a Technical Foul by a
    defending player within the large rectangle
    but outside the small rectangle

    HURLING
    2.2 After a foul, play is restarted by a free puck or
    a throw-in where the foul(s) occurred.

    Exceptions


    (i) In the case of fouls by defending players
    within the rectangles, the following shall apply:
    A penalty puck shall be awarded for an
    Aggressive Foul within the large rectangle.
    The penalty puck shall be taken from the
    centre point of the 20m line. A free puck
    from the centre of the 20m line shall be
    awarded for a Technical Foul within the
    large rectangle.




  • #11
    cournioni
    Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    manutd wrote: »
    If the goalkepper over-carring the ball, by walking up the goal line, is it
    1) A penalty.
    2) A 13 metre free-kick.
    3) Or, if a soccer goalkepper picks up a backback, it is a free kick from that piont on the frield.

    Thanks lads.
    manutd
    I'm guessing this is in relation to the Gaels vs Galls game at the weekend. What was Elliott at?! I play in goal too and its a unwritten rule for keepers to either get the ball out of the small square by kicking the ball out of it or running out of it with the ball. Never dwell on it and keep the ball shielded at all times.

    Yes it is a penalty if the keeper over carries in the small square.

    It is a thirteen metre free if it is in the large square or anywhere inside the thirteen metre line excluding the small square

    In soccer it is a indirect free kick from where the foul occured if the goalkeeper lifted a pass back from one of his team mates in the penalty area.


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  • #12
    manutd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭manutd


    PORNAPSTER wrote: »
    I'm guessing this is in relation to the Gaels vs Galls game at the weekend. What was Elliott at?! I play in goal too and its a unwritten rule for keepers to either get the ball out of the small square by kicking the ball out of it or running out of it with the ball. Never dwell on it and keep the ball shielded at all times.

    Yes it is a penalty if the keeper over carries in the small square.

    It is a thirteen metre free if it is in the large square or anywhere inside the thirteen metre line excluding the small square

    In soccer it is a indirect free kick from where the foul occured if the goalkeeper lifted a pass back from one of his team mates in the penalty area.
    Ya, but i disagree with you first part, he was surround and just seconds before the penalty was given, Elliot was pushed, from what i seen, into the goal. Referees usally will give a free-kck out. The referees was out about 15 metres when he gave the penalty. Well the Geals discipline was out of this world. 4 red carded in a game which was calm up to the penalty.


  • #13
    ciano12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25 ✭ciano12


    A 13 metre free-kick.


  • #14
    manutd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭manutd


    ciano12 wrote: »
    A 13 metre free-kick.
    No, i known it is a penalty.
    FOOTBALL

    2.2 After a foul, play is restarted by a free kick or a
    throw-in where the foul(s) occurred.

    EXCEPTIONS

    (i) In the case of fouls by a defending player
    within the rectangles, the following shall
    apply:

    A penalty kick shall be awarded for an
    Aggressive Foul within the large rectangle
    or any foul within the small rectangle.
    The penalty kick shall be taken from the
    ground at the centre point of the 13m line.
    A free kick from the centre of the 13m line
    shall be awarded for a Technical Foul by a
    defending player within the large rectangle
    but outside the small rectangle    .

    It's clear there that it is a penalty in the small rectangle box, but a 13 metre free-kick in the large rectangle.


  • #15
    rexel1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 45 ✭rexel1


    ManUtd,

    Where did the foul occur. Was it in the small rectangle?


  • #16
    manutd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭manutd


    rexel1 wrote: »
    ManUtd,

    Where did the foul occur. Was it in the small rectangle?
    rexel1

    Yes, it happed in the small rectangle, the goalkeeper over-cerried the ball.

    Thanks


  • #17
    mrgaa1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭mrgaa1


    rexel1 wrote: »
    Sorry Cactus Jack and MrGaa1 but you are wrong. Rules for Hurling and Football ARE DIFFERENT

    FOOTBALL



    2.2 After a foul, play is restarted by a free kick or a

    throw-in where the foul(s) occurred.


    EXCEPTIONS




    (i) In the case of fouls by a defending player

    within the rectangles, the following shall
    apply:
    A penalty kick shall be awarded for an
    Aggressive Foul within the large rectangle
    or any foul within the small rectangle.
    The penalty kick shall be taken from the
    ground at the centre point of the 13m line.
    A free kick from the centre of the 13m line
    shall be awarded for a Technical Foul by a
    defending player within the large rectangle
    but outside the small rectangle

    HURLING
    2.2 After a foul, play is restarted by a free puck or

    a throw-in where the foul(s) occurred.


    Exceptions




    (i) In the case of fouls by defending players

    within the rectangles, the following shall apply:
    A penalty puck shall be awarded for an
    Aggressive Foul within the large rectangle.
    The penalty puck shall be taken from the
    centre point of the 20m line. A free puck
    from the centre of the 20m line shall be
    awarded for a Technical Foul within the
    large rectangle.


    What you wrote and what I wrote:

    any foul in the small square is a penalty - no matter which code.
    In the larger square any technical foul is a free - 13m football, 20m hurling
    An aggressive foul in the large square in both codes is a penalty

    is the same :rolleyes:


  • #18
    rexel1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 45 ✭rexel1


    ManUtd yes it is a penalty because it was inside the small rectangle.

    MrGaa1 you are incorrect. A technical foul inside the small square in hurling is a 20m free. You can clearly see the two descriptions are worded differently. The same rules do not apply to both codes.


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