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What is the most forgiving Driver??

  • 17-10-2009 4:23am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35


    I started to play golf about 1.5 years ago and originally i always used a 3 or 5 wood off the tee. I purchased a Taylormade burner draw regular flex in March and have found my drives have improved. However i never seem to be in full control of it.

    Sometimes it will play a nice draw, sometimes it will play with a fade sometimes it will be a daisy cutter and I'm not sure what I'm doing different,

    I play off 19 but am looking to know is there a Driver out there that is more consistently forgiving and straighter than the Burner??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Save your money and get a lesson, if the driver you currently are using is not suitable then your pro can recommend a change based on your swing.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Sandwich


    Its the Cobra L4V.

    Get one. Dont waste your money on lessons, its a pointless pursuit. Buying new gear is the only way to improve your game. L4V was the best when it came out. The L5V was a step backwards but the mistake will be corrected when the L6V comes out in February. So get an L4V for the moment, then change to the L6V in the spring. Not quite as long as the Burner's best efforts, but much more forgiving and better on average.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭Myksyk


    No it's the Titleist 4GVN-STR8.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Daithio9


    dexter50 wrote: »
    What is the most forgiving Driver??


    The one that you play best with I'd imagine, but unfortunately for you, you'll never be able to play well with any driver unless you can control the impulse to use double punctuation marks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭soundsham


    ^ they're called question marks ^

    get a lesson or use a 3 wood


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Trekker09


    Totally disagree with Sandwich regarding the lessons. If you don't have sound fundamentals of alignment, grip and stance then you will struggle off the tee indefinately. It sounds as if your problem is consistancy. Smart practise wil help this. Don't go to the range and just smash balls without any thought, go with a particular plan in mind. A great tip for checking alignment is to practice your set up on a wooden deck. The direction of the desk boards is a great mental image for alignment.

    When you have the fundamentals under your belt, then that would be the time to lok at your equipment. The fact that you are playing off of 19 shows that you can hit the ball. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    Daithio9 wrote: »
    The one that you play best with I'd imagine, but unfortunately for you, you'll never be able to play well with any driver unless you can control the impulse to use double punctuation marks.


    Less trolling would be nice????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭soundsham


    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Daithio9


    only1stevo wrote: »
    Less trolling would be nice????
    How ironic.


    Seriously dexter your question is a bit generic and tbh the only good answer you'll get is "it depends".
    You will get loads of recommendations for various drivers and they may or may not suit you, but more than likely you'll just end up more confused.
    As was mentioned above your money would be better spent on lessons after which you'll be able to make a more informed decision on your own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭useurename


    on the same boat.im going to save up some money and buy me a nice new driver and a set of second hand irons in the january sales.i like mizuna clubs the best


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭sweetswing


    Daithio9 wrote: »
    How ironic.


    Seriously dexter your question is a bit generic and tbh the only good answer you'll get is "it depends".
    You will get loads of recommendations for various drivers and they may or may not suit you, but more than likely you'll just end up more confused.
    As was mentioned above your money would be better spent on lessons after which you'll be able to make a more informed decision on your own.
    i compleatly agree with this . but i think you could have said this first instead of what you did say . "play nice" moste people on here try to help each other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭d2ww


    My vote would be to keep the Burner but tape off the top 1 1/4 inches and grip below this. This will bring it down to the pro tour average of a 45" shaft and should make it easier to hit consistently. The likes of the Titleist D2,Diablo, Monster XLS and FTi all use a 45" and they are all current. If memory serves me rightly you can have up to a 48" shaft in your driver, but if the pro's don't feel comfortable with much more than 45", it's something to consider.
    Fwiw, the most forgiving driver I have used recently was a Ram driver from a €299 set including bag!!!(the last 2 are just to piss off d09) and it was mainly because the shaft on it was so bl*%dy short.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Mister Sifter


    OP, as someone who has gone through more drivers than a Formula 1 team my advice would be to try out as many drivers as you can until you find one that you really like and can hit. There's one out there for you, but you just got to find it.

    There's no definite answer to your question. It's very much a personal thing. What's good for one person isn't neccesarily good for another. For example, i played with three guys today who all used Titleist 909 drivers. We all play off similar handicaps and they hit the drivers really, really well.

    I had the very same driver for two months at the start of the season and couldn't hit it out of my way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 dexter50


    thanks for all the replies there, i did invest in 5 lessons with my club pro at the start of the year, he worked with posture stance and grip but he never focused on the driver that much. He preferred to focus on my short game and my mid irons as he stated that this is the area wich will improve your game and to be honest it has.. i have gone form the start of the year hitting 100-110 to now hitting 90 -95 per round.

    My performance with my burner is manageable and i tend to get away with it most of the time but somedays it frustrates me. which is why I am looking for advice on alternative drivers or things that have worked for others.

    I have spoken with my club pro and he doesn't see it as a big area for concern preferring to concentrate on the rest of my game.

    d2ww - that sounds interesting with the shaft length I will try that with lowering my grip on the shaft,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,954 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Sandwich wrote: »
    Dont waste your money on lessons, its a pointless pursuit. Buying new gear is the only way to improve your game.

    ??
    Practice makes perfection.
    The only way to improve your game is to practice using the correct methods.
    If you dont have the basic fundamentals of a sound golf swing all the equipment in the world isnt worth a curse to you.
    Too many people are obsessed with new equipment these days ,as if the clubs are magic and will hit the ball on their own.
    Most of the new clubs are marketing hype and ultimately a letdown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭Burgerman55


    have you tried the k1 speed driver?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Daithio9 wrote: »
    How ironic.


    Seriously dexter your question is a bit generic and tbh the only good answer you'll get is "it depends".
    You will get loads of recommendations for various drivers and they may or may not suit you, but more than likely you'll just end up more confused.
    As was mentioned above your money would be better spent on lessons after which you'll be able to make a more informed decision on your own.

    just wondering am i the only one here that finds the above poster to be short fused ,smart assd and annoying.
    Almost every post in this section seems to get on his wick

    Back to the question i'm a serial driver buyer and have had a G5 for the last 2 years with a pro launch blue shaft and it's very forgiving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭who_ru


    Ping G10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭G1032


    heavyballs wrote: »
    just wondering am i the only one here that finds the above poster to be short fused ,smart assd and annoying.
    Almost every post in this section seems to get on his wick

    Back to the question i'm a serial driver buyer and have had a G5 for the last 2 years with a pro launch blue shaft and it's very forgiving

    I hear ya. Almost every post in every section seems to get on his wick!!!!

    PG10 is what I use. Very forgiving I find. At least compared to the Mizuno MP600 I had before it.


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    Play nice kids.... some of you have your sarcasm machine turned up a tad too high and others have their sarcasm detectors turned off completely.

    To the OP, A lot will be trial and error. Try and go somewhere that allows you to try out a few different variations. Doesn't matter if they are 2nd hand and a couple of seasons old. You will mostly be looking for a shaft type that suits you. There won't be major differences in clubheads but finding the right shaft is important. The thing is though, it's relatively easy to stand on the range and hit driver after driver and for you to think you have it sussed. It's different and much harder when you're out on the course so keep that in mind.

    However, since you are new enough to the game, you probably shouldn't bother with a custom fit just yet. I'd agree that since your current driver is giving reasonably good consistency then you'd be better off sticking with it and figuring out what's going 'wrong' when you hit the poor shots. Is it on particular holes that you tend to hit a poor one?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭golfbgud


    Sandwich wrote: »
    Its the Cobra L4V.

    Get one. Dont waste your money on lessons, its a pointless pursuit. Buying new gear is the only way to improve your game. L4V was the best when it came out. The L5V was a step backwards but the mistake will be corrected when the L6V comes out in February. So get an L4V for the moment, then change to the L6V in the spring. Not quite as long as the Burner's best efforts, but much more forgiving and better on average.


    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Sandwich wrote: »
    Its the Cobra L4V.

    Get one. Dont waste your money on lessons, its a pointless pursuit. Buying new gear is the only way to improve your game. L4V was the best when it came out. The L5V was a step backwards but the mistake will be corrected when the L6V comes out in February. So get an L4V for the moment, then change to the L6V in the spring. Not quite as long as the Burner's best efforts, but much more forgiving and better on average.
    "


    omg,if buying new golf gear is "the only way to improve your game" that's super we're all sorted,i'm going st8 to McGuirks in the morning with the wife's credid card,gonna spend a fortune on new clubs.Will that improve my game? No it won't
    You need to find the right driver -shaft combo for your swing and club head speed,you can look at the bobotic tests but they're only credible if we all swang the same every time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭soundsham


    the most forgiving driver i know of thumbnail.aspx?q=1171476850640&id=049aebf29ad2473f91a4bde2569a0b46&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.zuguide.com%2fimage%2fDriving-Miss-Daisy.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    have you tried the k1 speed driver?

    I know a guy who couldn't hit a driver and this one has transformed his driving. It's not a driver that I would have bought.

    To answer the original question......

    If you find driving to be difficult then try one with higher loft. You'll and up hitting it a bit shorter but you may end up on the fairway more often.

    Try to go to a pro shop where you can try different ones out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 dexter50


    Licksy wrote: »

    However, since you are new enough to the game, you probably shouldn't bother with a custom fit just yet. I'd agree that since your current driver is giving reasonably good consistency then you'd be better off sticking with it and figuring out what's going 'wrong' when you hit the poor shots. Is it on particular holes that you tend to hit a poor one?

    Exactly i could hit 2 or 3 good ones but then i will hit a bad one and maybe its psychological and it plays on the mind but a bad one seems to follow a bad one. I was playing in a fourball rumble one day where 2 scores counted for every hole and everyones scores counted for the par5's i drove well on all par 4s but duffed every drive on the par5's that day.

    I am playing tomorrow and am going to lower my grip about an inch and a half as D2ww suggested and see how that goes for me but as most people on here say its about finding the right combination for myself.

    I am going to try another lesson or 2 concentrating on the driver and go from there.

    I have seen some good reviews for the K1 Driver and am interested in trying that, i am thinking of trying Fore Golf in Kildare for testing of drivers does anyone recommend them? It costs 50euro for the session do people think its worth it and are they helpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    One thing you should do is to get a lesson on setup.

    You won't hit consistent shots unless you have correct fundamentals and then you get a grooved routine. There's no point having a different setup every shot 9a lot of people do this even though they don't realise it)........get a routine that repeats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭Myksyk


    Sandwich wrote: »
    Its the Cobra L4V.

    Get one. Dont waste your money on lessons, its a pointless pursuit. Buying new gear is the only way to improve your game. L4V was the best when it came out. The L5V was a step backwards but the mistake will be corrected when the L6V comes out in February. So get an L4V for the moment, then change to the L6V in the spring. Not quite as long as the Burner's best efforts, but much more forgiving and better on average.

    Oh deary lord god of all that's holy and treasured! Guys, at the risk of pointing out the crushingly, painfully, creakingly obvious .... Sandwich was being sarcastic. Not subtly sarcastic, but in-your-freakin'-face sarcastic. If you didn't get this please reboot your brain asap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭trackerman


    The problem with the OP sounds to be more to do with the swing rather than the driver.
    For example, if you consistently (90%) hit a fade then a draw biased different driver will help.
    But if your prone to a mix of flight paths, i.e. hook, draw, fade, slice and topping then it’s not the driver’s fault.
    Yes increasing the club forgiveness will help a small bit, but that’s like pissing on a house fire.
    You need to correct the fundamentals in your swing first to become more consistent, then and only then should you select a club that suits your “consistent” swing.


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