Engineering Project LC 2010

germanicus

The Engineering practical Project for LC 2010 is out. It's a gantry.

Here is the brief, i just got it this afternoon.

1. Introduction
The global standardisation of containers and container handling technology is one of the important innovations of 20th century freight logistics. Central to this transport environment is the gantry container crane. The gantry container crane generally consists of a supporting gantry structure for a trolley unit. The trolley unit will in turn traverse the working area to locate, raise and lower the container.

Design a model of a gantry container crane to the general specifications outlined:
(a) The model should have a fixed gantry structure;
(b) The trolley unit should:
(i) Be incorporated into the fixed gantry structure;
(ii) Have the traverse, raise and lower motion controlled by switches.

A model container need not be included in the final solution.

kenon

Sounds very similar to 2007/2008's. Just re-worded.

wats up doc

does it have to spin around or do we just put a steering mechanise on the wheels

germanicus

I agree, i was very surprised. its not a bad project though.

germanicus

wats up doc wrote: »

does it have to spin around or do we just put a steering mechanise on the wheels

no. its just two legs with a frame across the top. the gantry slides across the frame and raises and lowers the containers from there
... as far as i know

lalee17

Our teacher was very pleased with it. Apparently it's a great project to do, unlike last year's toy.

budman159

What does it mean by "fixed gantry structure" though? Does that mean the crane should be stationery or can we mount it on rails or wheels?

germanicus

i think that the crane must just be able to slide over and back on top of the gantry not the actual gantry move itself.

jigsaw 1

I have been thinking of this. Anyone else doing the same.

iron man

anyone any idea what the ordinary level project is?

TheCardHolder

Sounds like there's less room for creativity than last years.

villian02

Ordinary level is a model seaplane. Nice project too.

@ Fixed gantry structure: was wondering does this mean its mounted permanently to the ground or on rails?

All gantry cranes i have looked at are on rails??

trepasers

Just wondering what programs do people use to draw up the projects??
Thanks

dayzer

trepasers wrote: »

Just wondering what programs do people use to draw up the projects??
Thanks

There is a programme called solidworks dont know were to get it but im sure you will find it if you google it!:D:D:D

jigsaw 1

dayzer wrote: »

There is a programme called solidworks dont know were to get it but im sure you will find it if you google it!:D:D:D

You need a code from your school to download it. If you are doing DCG your teacher should tell you where to download it or they should have it on a disk. Hope this helps

wheres wally

what is the best way of moving the hook along the gype of the crane and raising up the crate

wats up doc

wheres wally wrote: »

what is the best way of moving the hook along the gype of the crane and raising up the crate

shers its very simple i got an A1 two years ago for the crane
make it easy 4 urself and put a handle stickin out of it so u can pull it over and back. u can then use some baleing twine and tie around the container. than wined up the twine and wrap it around a ratchet . than too lower it u just release it

LANCER96

wats up doc wrote: »

does it have to spin around or do we just put a steering mechanise on the wheels

if you read the brief properly you will find that there isnt any wheels on the gantry it has to be able to pick a container up and drop it

villian02

Well in honesty, if you can justify allowing the gantry to move then it could be acceptable. Fixed gantry cranes and moveable gantry cranes aren't that easily defined. One might say that a fixed gantry crane is fully fixed to the ground, but the brief does state that ''the trolley unit will in turn traverse the working area''.

In my opinion the working area of a gantry crane would be the whole deck of the ship it is removing and loading containers from. This would seem to suggest that a fixed gantry crane can move parallel to the ship as well as having the trolley traversing in a perpendicular direction.
This in my opinion is a 'fixed' type gantry crane.

villian02

Video Links From Extreme Engineering

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery/35954-extreme-engineering-container-crane-operator-video.htm

trepasers

jigsaw 1 wrote: »

You need a code from your school to download it. If you are doing DCG your teacher should tell you where to download it or they should have it on a disk. Hope this helps

Thanks for the help lads!!!

trepasers

LANCER96 wrote: »

if you read the brief properly you will find that there isnt any wheels on the gantry it has to be able to pick a container up and drop it

Just wondering does it even have to lift a container??I think the hook just has to be able to go up and down.........

villian02

trepasers wrote: »

Just wondering does it even have to lift a container??I think the hook just has to be able to go up and down.........

Nope, it doesnt have to lift anything.

st3mc92

can anyone draw up a sketch of how there going to make the crane move traverse and up and down

dayzer

jigsaw 1 wrote: »

You need a code from your school to download it. If you are doing DCG your teacher should tell you where to download it or they should have it on a disk. Hope this helps

yup i have it on a disk got it off me teacher last year! think i need to get the new one! :D:D

jigsaw 1

dayzer wrote: »

yup i have it on a disk got it off me teacher last year! think i need to get the new one! :D:D

The old one is the same as the new one. It just looks a bit better and has a few new features. The old one will do exactly what you need.It is nearly easier to use than the new one.

dayzer

jigsaw 1 wrote: »

The old one is the same as the new one. It just looks a bit better and has a few new features. The old one will do exactly what you need.It is nearly easier to use than the new one.

ah i know but its nice to be up to date haha

st3mc92

Dayzer do you know how to wire your project so it can do exactly what it sats on the brief

dayzer

st3mc92 wrote: »

Dayzer do you know how to wire your project so it can do exactly what it sats on the brief

im trying to draw up me design as we speak havnt even thought about wireing it up yet!!

havnt a clue bud sorry

st3mc92

alri nice 1 man does anyone ???

villian02

Havent got a wiring diagram yet but im sure they'll not start appearing until people have the projects well underway.
Up and down will be a DPDT switch with a geared motor.
Traversing will be another DPDT switch with two micro switches at both ends as limit switches to stop the trolley moving too far.

jigsaw 1

Have it designed and know where I am going put the moters but dont have a clue where im going to run the wires. Im thinking of just waiting until I have it built and then figure out the wiring. What are ye going to make it out of ? Im thinking of steel.

trepasers

jigsaw 1 wrote: »

Have it designed and know where I am going put the moters but dont have a clue where im going to run the wires. Im thinking of just waiting until I have it built and then figure out the wiring. What are ye going to make it out of ? Im thinking of steel.

Ya im thinking of steel.........Just wondering would the welder blow a hole in it though cause the pieces are so small......
How are you goin to mount your motors??

villian02

Just make sure that you mount motors neatly, because this is one of the main ways students loose marks. The welder power can be turned down to stop you blowing holes in the steel. Mig welding would probably be the best way, but it could be done with an arc welder. The weld can be ground down anyway.

trepasers

villian02 wrote: »

Just make sure that you mount motors neatly, because this is one of the main ways students loose marks. The welder power can be turned down to stop you blowing holes in the steel. Mig welding would probably be the best way, but it could be done with an arc welder. The weld can be ground down anyway.

Yes I think I will go with the Mig welder....probably the neatest option...Thanks for the help!!:D

st3mc92

can anyone scan dere ideas into there computer and put it on dis site. tryin to find some ideas

trepasers

st3mc92 wrote: »

can anyone scan dere ideas into there computer and put it on dis site. tryin to find some ideas

I second that.....:)

st3mc92

is anyone lost like me

LANCER96

wats up doc wrote: »

does it have to spin around or do we just put a steering mechanise on the wheels

it can extend but CANNOT go over 300x300x300:cool:

LANCER96

i couldnt tell ya

wheres wally

villian02 wrote: »

Havent got a wiring diagram yet but im sure they'll not start appearing until people have the projects well underway.
Up and down will be a DPDT switch with a geared motor.
Traversing will be another DPDT switch with two micro switches at both ends as limit switches to stop the trolley moving too far.

ya but how are ya gone to move the traverse left and right

wats up doc

LANCER96 wrote: »

i couldnt tell ya

hah u must hav no friends ur responing to ur own messages

wheres wally

LANCER96 wrote: »

i couldnt tell ya

ill buy that lancer of ya for three grand if ya get it tested

wheres wally

jigsaw 1 wrote: »

Have it designed and know where I am going put the moters but dont have a clue where im going to run the wires. Im thinking of just waiting until I have it built and then figure out the wiring. What are ye going to make it out of ? Im thinking of steel.

are putting the motors on the trolley or leaving them stationary at the base

LANCER96

wheres wally wrote: »

ya but how are ya gone to move the traverse left and right

give it a kick

LANCER96

wheres wally wrote: »

ill buy that lancer of ya for three grand if ya get it tested

sounds like a plan

wheres wally

lalee17 wrote: »

Our teacher was very pleased with it. Apparently it's a great project to do, unlike last year's toy.

but there isnt a lot of movement of indivuality move people will follow the same kind of ideas

wheres wally

LANCER96 wrote: »

sounds like a plan

but ya have a lot of work to do on it it has to be pushed down the hill to start it doesnt it

wats up doc

wat mechanise ar ye usein for movin the trolly unit over and back

was thinkin of use of usein a rack and pinone

villian02

Size limit is 350 x 350 x 350.

LCblogger

A pretty decent project. Not very difficult to be honest. Check out my blog on the engineering project here to see what i think <snip- see my post below>