how long will i ahve to wait to get a licence

ferret man

i am looking at a shotgun and i am wondering if i apply now to get a licence how long would it take and also what type of shotgun would have the longest range?

foxhunter

ferret man wrote: »

i am looking at a shotgun and i am wondering if i apply now to get a licence how long would it take and also what type of shotgun would have the longest range?

There is no simple answer to this one Ferret Man a decision is supposed to be made in 3 months of your application but who knows for sure.
The range on the shotgun will depend on the shot used and the amount of choke in the particular barrell not the make of gun.

ferret man

yea i no that but for an overall gun i was told a s/s would carry most distance using same bullet and choke

Rovi

I can't conceive of any reason why a s/s should inherently 'carry more distance' than any other barrel configuration.

Maximum 'range', which in shotguns I'm figuring is the maximum distance at which the shot pattern remains 'useful', is determined by the quantity of shot and the nature and shape of the wadding in the cartridge, and the choke and length of the barrel.
For any given barrel length and choke and any given cartridge, the barrel doesn't 'know' (or care) if there's another barrel to its left or right, above or below it, or if it's all on its own.

Any of the shotgun gurus know different/better?

s-cogan

filling out forms and stuff fra shotgun this week and the fella givin me a hand and teachin me all i need to kno said id have it by november.
sounded wrong to me but if its true bring it on!!!
i myself thought about three months was typical waiting time

foxshooter243

s-cogan wrote: »

filling out forms and stuff fra shotgun this week and the fella givin me a hand and teachin me all i need to kno said id have it by november.
sounded wrong to me but if its true bring it on!!!
i myself thought about three months was typical waiting time

Unless he was the superintendant id take it with a pinch of salt and a very large pinch at that!:D

s-cogan

foxshooter243 wrote: »

Unless he was the superintendant id take it with a pinch of salt and a very large pinch at that!:D

lol ya id say so!!!!!






c'mere lads what do i put down for proof of competency?

im not in a gun club but iv done a lot of shooting with uncles and cousins 12 gauges.
i can hardly put that down can i??????

Rovi

s-cogan wrote: »

c'mere lads what do i put down for proof of competency?

im not in a gun club but iv done a lot of shooting with uncles and cousins 12 gauges.
i can hardly put that down can i??????

Have a read of the Commissioner's Guidelines, particularly the section dealing with 'Proof of competence' (page 11):

Commissioner's Guidelines wrote:

(b) Proof of competence in the use of the firearm or ammunition which is subject of the application - depending on the circumstances of each case, an individual who has already possessed a certificate (without any convictions under the Firearms Act, 1925-2009) for a period of a minimum of 1 year may be considered to have fulfilled the proof of competency. First time applicants for firearms certificates may demonstrate that they have acquired a degree of competency in the use of firearms by satisfying the issuing person of having attended a firearms training course, or of having joined an authorised rifle or pistol club or range for the purpose of gaining competency in firearms use, or having previously been granted a firearms training certificate.

An issuing person tasked with considering whether or not to grant a firearms certificate to an individual, must be satisfied that public safety is never compromised when making these decisions. Issuing persons should however bear in mind that the Act only requires proof of competency. Proof of proficiency in using a firearm, such as expertise in target shooting etc, is not necessary when considering proof of competence.

In the absence of any of the stuff emboldened above, you're left with putting something in writing about your experience with your uncles' and cousins' guns; be very careful though not to land them or yourself in trouble by making any admissions of activities that may have been contrary to the Firearms Acts at the time.

foxshooter243

s-cogan wrote: »

lol ya id say so!!!!!






c'mere lads what do i put down for proof of competency?

im not in a gun club but iv done a lot of shooting with uncles and cousins 12 gauges.
i can hardly put that down can i??????

I would write down that you have been in the company of shooters over the years and they left you well versed on handling a shotgun, or if your that worried go and take a lesson in a clay club and state the fact that you are recieving coaching in shooting from an instructor..I mean the garda arent stupid they know full well that lads get into shooting from a father or uncle, thats the way its always been. my two cents only;)

Edited to add-Rovis post deals with this better than mines!

ferret man

so if youwere at the gun club then you would be ok and quicker to get the licence

s-cogan

In the absence of any of the stuff emboldened above, you're left with putting something in writing about your experience with your uncles' and cousins' guns; be very careful though not to land them or yourself in trouble by making any admissions of activities that may have been contrary to the Firearms Acts at the time.







ya thats exactly what i was worried about as the lad sorting stuff out for me said if i was caught in posession of a gun without a licence then i would be disentitled to hold a firearm certificate for life so i was terrified that if i said i had used other guns i would be punished!!!!!!!!!!

thanks lads yeer great

terminator2

my advice is stick with your ferrets

kowloon

I've had an application take the best part of a year, I have one in at the moment that will be breaking a year and a half soon. I've always been caught between leaving the Gardai to their own devices and ringing them to ask why it's taking so long, I suspect complaining is a great way of getting a refusal.

ferret man

im keeping the ferrets terminator2 but leaving the nets behind and going for a bit of fst action shooting instead already got a lurcher and getin fed up wy nets had a few mates out wuth shotguns recently and it reall good craic also id like ti get into a bit of phesant shooting and am already a member of the local gub club