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aai awards

  • 15-10-2009 1:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13


    right its nearly time to hand out the awards so let get a head start in prediciting the winners a lot of great performances this year to choose from but for me some awards are clear cut what do you all think

    athlete of the year olive loughanne ?
    junior of the year Ciara mageean ?
    Hall of fame Sonia o.sullivan ?
    Coach of the year Eamonn christie?
    club of the year DSD
    feel free to agree are disagree are suggest


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭RoyMcC


    You expect this forum to agree anything at all? :pac:

    Athlete of the Year - Derval
    Junior - Ciara
    Hall of Fame - Didn't know there was one but if Sonia isn't she must be next up.
    Coach - don't know
    Club - Crusaders :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 athlete43


    derval should be in the running .Ciaran what is the second name.Delaney and coughlan have won it the 1st two years maybe john treacy will be up there crusaders had a gd year as did clonclife


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭RoyMcC


    athlete43 wrote: »
    Ciaran what is the second name.

    Sorry, Ciara


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭deco1610


    Think a national team cross country title, in both junior and senior, and a national T&F league title would earn clonliffe the award...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭helpisontheway


    Athlete of the year-Olive Loughnane
    Junior-Ciara Megaeen
    Hall of Fame-Tough one to call but i would say John Tracey as Sonia is still relatively young for that award.
    Club of the year-From a neutral perspective i would say Clonliffe.
    Coach of the tear-Nearly impossible to pick as coaches have to be nominated first so there is no guarantee that the best coaches were nominated.Id pick Brid Golden if she hasnt won it before and is nominated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Dr Watson


    Chequebook of the year- Clonliffe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    Dr Watson wrote: »
    Chequebook of the year- Clonliffe

    Were there many club records broken this year? As that's the only way money goes out to athletes. If you're referring to the club having to pay its own way to go to the European clubs cross country and track and field championships (nice bonus for victory that is) maybe it should be overdraft of the year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Dr Watson


    Why should Clonliffe be any different from the other clubs that have previously represented Ireland in those competitions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Dr Watson wrote: »
    Why should Clonliffe be any different from the other clubs that have previously represented Ireland in those competitions?

    We don't know. But you brought up chequebook of the year, so how was it meant. I think that's what the previous poster meant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭helpisontheway


    It is a bit ridiculous really that clubs should have to pay to represent their country.:mad:
    If they have the money to spend on athletes why shouldnt they? My motto is if the money is there spend it as its doing no good for the athletes sitting in a bank account doing nothing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Dr Watson


    Itwas the fact the club had to support their athletes in attending the two Euro Club Comps.

    I never mentioned brown paper bags passed over in the forecourts of service stations- has someone a guilty conscience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    Dr Watson wrote: »
    Itwas the fact the club had to support their athletes in attending the two Euro Club Comps.

    I never mentioned brown paper bags passed over in the forecourts of service stations- has someone a guilty conscience?

    So you were making a positive statement about the club saying that as they had to pay for two trips, they must have a big chequebook? :confused:

    Perhaps club of the year for winning xc and track and field would be more appropriate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Dr Watson wrote: »
    I never mentioned brown paper bags...

    Nor did anyone else. Clarification was all that was required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Stupid_Private


    Club of the year is a tough one - Clonliffe won the two big senior men competitions but obviously a lot more has to go into it than that.

    I don't know enough about the different disciplines to consider myself able to give a full answer... but I don't think its Clonliffe....

    Clonliffe rolled out the big guns for the National Senior XC. Raheny won the Dublin Senior, Leinster Senior and were second in the National. Clonliffe won the National, third in Dublin and a no show in Leinster.

    Raheny also won the National road 10k (no team from Clonliffe), road relays (Clonliffe 5th) and were third in the National Half (no team from Clonliffe). As mentioned Clonliffe won the Men's National League with Raheny 4th.

    What seals Raheny for me is that at road races around the country Raheny always seem to get the team prize - Ballycotton, Streets of Galway, Tom Brennan 5k, ...
    In my eyes they offer the most to athletics in Ireland (or the most to men's xc and road racing!)

    But this is all based on Senior Men... there are women, masters and juniors to be taken into account - none of which I'm up to speed on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    I'd be proud of saying Clonliffe have the best athlete welfare program in Ireland so probably should get Chequebook of the Year. I went to Euro Clubs and didn't pay a penny like all the athletes. A couple of younger athletes I coach get subsidised for overseas trips, medical expenses, other bits and bobs, never left short. There was also an overseas cross-country trip for the mens squad, an underage trip away, a brilliant Club Champs with food laid on, a table fully sponsored for the junior athletes at the AAI awards. Jeez, I could go on. Anytime I as a coach or athlete need something I make the call and will usually get what I want, Santry is closed so ALSAA was booked until it re-opens for Clonliffe to use. Standard stuff you would expect from a top club yet for some reason in Ireland it seems the exception for Irish clubs. Club lottos go a long way lads (and its the many master athletes who keep the club going on this front in fairness) as well as an active clubhouse with a bar (with a serious pint of Guinness).

    Its interesting that the best clubs probably also have the best revenue drivers too. I know Leevale are financially strong, don't know about Ferrybank or DSD but I'd imagine they are well clued in on that front.

    I second Clonliffe for Chequebook (Best Athlete Welfare/Best Use of Resources For Their Club and Their Athletes) of the Year too.

    Also, I nominate for Best Guinness in an Athletics Club's Bar Award.

    Final nomination I propose is Most Coveted and Despised Club For Apparently Paying Athletes Massive Amounts of Money To Compete When In Reality That Is Probably 0.5% of What The Club Is Really About And They Don't Pay Any Athletes A Single Euro Anyway Award (unless they break a record).

    Clonliffe won the award 2 years ago, had an even better year last year but didn't win the award and again had a better year just gone than when they originally won it. I suspect the award will get shared around and not go to Clonliffe, thats fair enough and it will be a case of Nils Desperandum.

    PS: Just read on Northside People that some rich Saudi oil tycoon is looking to buy Clonliffe and pump even more millions into the club. Bolt, Bekele (Boit won't be happy:eek:), Isinbayeva, Felix and Thorkildsen are all top of his shopping list. Can't see it happening to be honest and Clonliffe are rich enough as is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    Tingle wrote: »
    I'd be proud of saying Clonliffe have the best athlete welfare program in Ireland so probably should get Chequebook of the Year. I went to Euro Clubs and didn't pay a penny like all the athletes. A couple of younger athletes I coach get subsidised for overseas trips, medical expenses, other bits and bobs, never left short. There was also an overseas cross-country trip for the mens squad, an underage trip away, a brilliant Club Champs with food laid on, a table fully sponsored for the junior athletes at the AAI awards. Jeez, I could go on. Anytime I as a coach or athlete need something I make the call and will usually get what I want, Santry is closed so ALSAA was booked until it re-opens for Clonliffe to use. Standard stuff you would expect from a top club yet for some reason in Ireland it seems the exception for Irish clubs. Club lottos go a long way lads (and its the many master athletes who keep the club going on this front in fairness) as well as an active clubhouse with a bar (with a serious pint of Guinness).

    Its interesting that the best clubs probably also have the best revenue drivers too. I know Leevale are financially strong, don't know about Ferrybank or DSD but I'd imagine they are well clued in on that front.

    I second Clonliffe for Chequebook (Best Athlete Welfare/Best Use of Resources For Their Club and Their Athletes) of the Year too.

    Also, I nominate for Best Guinness in an Athletics Club's Bar Award.

    Final nomination I propose is Most Coveted and Despised Club For Apparently Paying Athletes Massive Amounts of Money To Compete When In Reality That Is Probably 0.5% of What The Club Is Really About And They Don't Pay Any Athletes A Single Euro Anyway Award (unless they break a record).

    Clonliffe won the award 2 years ago, had an even better year last year but didn't win the award and again had a better year just gone than when they originally won it. I suspect the award will get shared around and not go to Clonliffe, thats fair enough and it will be a case of Nils Desperandum.

    PS: Just read on Northside People that some rich Saudi oil tycoon is looking to buy Clonliffe and pump even more millions into the club. Bolt, Bekele (Boit won't be happy:eek:), Isinbayeva, Felix and Thorkildsen are all top of his shopping list. Can't see it happening to be honest and Clonliffe are rich enough as is.

    Just wait for our borards.ke to take off ;) Will have the pick of the rift valley and give ya a run for your money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    shels4ever wrote: »
    Just wait for our borards.ke to take off ;) Will have the pick of the rift valley and give ya a run for your money.

    I believe Roman O'Bram O'Vitch is looking to turn Boards AC into the Athletics' equivalent of Chelski.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    I believe Roman O'Bram O'Vitch is looking to turn Boards AC into the Athletics' equivalent of Chelski.

    I'm not sure if that deserves a red card with your coat handed to you on the way out or a thumbs up:p

    Could be interesting though, Lebid donning the famous Boards blue vest for the Dublin Novice next year (he would be eligible), Peckham and Woddle at loggerheads with O' Bram O' Vitch as they feel he is trying to pick the team when he insists Wallace Spearmon should be signed and shel4ever sold to Raheny to part finance the deal. Could end in tears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Hard Worker





    Raheny also won the National road 10k (no team from Clonliffe), road relays (Clonliffe 5th) and were third in the National Half (no team from Clonliffe). As mentioned Clonliffe won the Men's National League with Raheny 4th.


    Clonliffe did have a team in the National Half.
    Clonliffe also always support the county championships in preference to the regional ones. Last Sunday, the men won the Dublin Novice CC and the women were 3rd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    Club of the year is a tough one - Clonliffe won the two big senior men competitions but obviously a lot more has to go into it than that.

    I don't know enough about the different disciplines to consider myself able to give a full answer... but I don't think its Clonliffe....

    Clonliffe rolled out the big guns for the National Senior XC. Raheny won the Dublin Senior, Leinster Senior and were second in the National. Clonliffe won the National, third in Dublin and a no show in Leinster.

    Raheny also won the National road 10k (no team from Clonliffe), road relays (Clonliffe 5th) and were third in the National Half (no team from Clonliffe). As mentioned Clonliffe won the Men's National League with Raheny 4th.

    What seals Raheny for me is that at road races around the country Raheny always seem to get the team prize - Ballycotton, Streets of Galway, Tom Brennan 5k, ...
    In my eyes they offer the most to athletics in Ireland (or the most to men's xc and road racing!)

    But this is all based on Senior Men... there are women, masters and juniors to be taken into account - none of which I'm up to speed on!

    Nothing to do with the awards BUT I bet Raheny would swap all those other titles for one National Senior XC title. Might be a lesson there somewhere...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 bad attitude


    Firstly on the hall of fame side of things, John Tracy forgot the sport of athletics along time ago! and has contributed in a sneeky way to what I believe is the down fall of the AAI!

    Secondly on the subject of the club of the year, whilst I can see how Clonliffe do look after their athletes and support them I find it hard to see how they can be awarded the title of club of the year! Achievements aside I have never seen a more negative and small minded group of people put in charge of a club. yes there are some lovley people involved in the club some of whom I call my friend (Tingle being one!) but over the years I have wittnesed some incidents that can only be described as disgraceful from some of clonliffes members who should know better regarding use of the track "on their time". Athletics is too small clonliffe! wake up and smell the coffee!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭Stupid_Private


    Clonliffe did have a team in the National Half.

    So they did - they're not in the results for some reason. I just totted up their times and they got a total of 212.25 (4 seconds quicker than second place). How come they weren't given second? It's not because the third scorer was M35 instead of Senior was it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    So they did - they're not in the results for some reason. I just totted up their times and they got a total of 212.25 (4 seconds quicker than second place). How come they weren't given second? It's not because the third scorer was M35 instead of Senior was it?

    Disqualified. One runner didn't have club singlet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭ss43


    Disqualified. One runner didn't have club singlet.

    I presume someone objected to have that rule enforced? Any idea who?

    I heard Clonliffe pay scoring members of their men's team at the interclubs? Is that a blatant lie, a misunderstanding or was it the case in the past?

    How else do ye raise funds Tingle, apart from the lotto and the bar (I presume that couldn't cover everything)? Do ye own the track or rent it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭helpisontheway


    Firstly on the hall of fame side of things, John Tracy forgot the sport of athletics along time ago! and has contributed in a sneeky way to what I believe is the down fall of the AAI!

    Secondly on the subject of the club of the year, whilst I can see how Clonliffe do look after their athletes and support them I find it hard to see how they can be awarded the title of club of the year! Achievements aside I have never seen a more negative and small minded group of people put in charge of a club. yes there are some lovley people involved in the club some of whom I call my friend (Tingle being one!) but over the years I have wittnesed some incidents that can only be described as disgraceful from some of clonliffes members who should know better regarding use of the track "on their time". Athletics is too small clonliffe! wake up and smell the coffee!!
    Fantastic first post!:rolleyes:
    WUM!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    ss43 wrote: »
    I presume someone objected to have that rule enforced? Any idea who?

    I heard Clonliffe pay scoring members of their men's team at the interclubs? Is that a blatant lie, a misunderstanding or was it the case in the past?

    How else do ye raise funds Tingle, apart from the lotto and the bar (I presume that couldn't cover everything)? Do ye own the track or rent it?

    As far as I know that rule should not have been enforced, you don't have to wear club vest in events from half up. Don't know who objected but probably doesn't matter in the general scheme of things.

    Don't know about scoring members being paid but hey if they are, how bad, nice bonus and might explain the 5 in a row!!!!

    Not sure of the finances as not involved in that area, Just concentrate on the on the track stuff while others look after that. Works very well I think as people work on the areas they are strong at as opposed to being jack of all trades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    ss43 wrote: »
    I presume someone objected to have that rule enforced? Any idea who?

    Another team objected as they were perfectly entitled to do if they are the rules (think the 'white singlets okay' rule okay for marathon only) so no beef with that. Rules is rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭ss43


    Tingle wrote: »
    As far as I know that rule should not have been enforced, you don't have to wear club vest in events from half up. Don't know who objected but probably doesn't matter in the general scheme of things.

    Don't know about scoring members being paid but hey if they are, how bad, nice bonus and might explain the 5 in a row!!!!

    Not sure of the finances as not involved in that area, Just concentrate on the on the track stuff while others look after that. Works very well I think as people work on the areas they are strong at as opposed to being jack of all trades.

    I think the rule is club vest or white vest (to keep people from overheating) - was the vest white. Doesn't change much in the scheme of things - very small-minded on the part of whoever complained though.

    I'd have no problem with the payment if it didn't seem (again it could seem that way cos of unfair rumours) that outside athletes were being lured in with it. Adding an extra incentive to members to be available and in shape for nationals is great when it's for the lads who aren't hopping over for the race and then flying home after.

    Great to have enough people that you can specialise, most clubs don't have the luxury.

    Back to the awards. My picks would be:
    Athlete - Derval O'Rourke
    Junior - Ciara Mageean
    Club - Clonliffe Harriers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭Kiptanui


    Another team objected as they were perfectly entitled to do if they are the rules (think the 'white singlets okay' rule okay for marathon only) so no beef with that. Rules is rules.

    Its disappointing to see a team disqualified for something so petty though. Yes rules are rules but looking for loopholes to gain advantages is infuriating. A sense of due dilligence to Irish athletes should exist.

    Athlete of the Year: Oilive Loughnane
    Junior: Ciara Mageen

    On the cross country, credit where it is due. Clonliffe had 5 in the top 15 in the nationals. Fair play on bringing them through the transition from Junior to senior. Who coached these guys as Juniors? Perhaps he/she could get coach of the year for nurturing these guys through from juvenile to junior and then to senior?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Hard Worker


    Another team objected as they were perfectly entitled to do if they are the rules (think the 'white singlets okay' rule okay for marathon only) so no beef with that. Rules is rules.

    Just to clarify:
    Clonliffe were incorrectly disqualified. It wouldn't have happened if I was there as, it seems, the people who should have known the rules, didn't.

    Members of Clonliffe's winning cross country team receive a token few bob for their efforts. It wouldn't get you a midweek break. I can assure you that the money is not the incentive. The athletes would run just the same if the money wasn't on offer.

    Regarding use of the track: there are probably up to 100 people on the track on Tuesday and Thursday. I would have use of one lane for two groups totalling 20 people. The masters group could have 15 in their lane. As Tingle will tell you, things are tight for the sprinters and hurdlers also. There's very little room for non club members and I don't have a problem with the Club captain applying health and safety rules and asking non members to leave if the track is congested. The only people insured on the track during Clonliffe time are Clonliffe athletes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    Just to clarify:
    Clonliffe were incorrectly disqualified. It wouldn't have happened if I was there as, it seems, the people who should have known the rules, didn't.

    If that's the case can they not be 'reinstated'?

    Also, if the singlet was neither a club singlet or white, was it still within the rules?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Hard Worker


    ss43 wrote: »

    Back to the awards. My picks would be:
    Athlete - Derval O'Rourke
    Junior - Ciara Mageean
    Club - Clonliffe Harriers

    Agree with the above.
    I'd nominate Eamonn Christie as coach of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Hard Worker


    If that's the case can they not be 'reinstated'?

    Also, if the singlet was neither a club singlet or white, was it still within the rules?

    Plain singlet will do for any distance of 10K or longer on the road ( once it doesn't breach the usual advertising rules ).
    I'm not sure if things have since been rectified. However, when you present a medal to someone and then, shortly afterwards, take it back again, it's not the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    Secondly on the subject of the club of the year, whilst I can see how Clonliffe do look after their athletes and support them I find it hard to see how they can be awarded the title of club of the year! Achievements aside I have never seen a more negative and small minded group of people put in charge of a club. yes there are some lovley people involved in the club some of whom I call my friend (Tingle being one!) but over the years I have wittnesed some incidents that can only be described as disgraceful from some of clonliffes members who should know better regarding use of the track "on their time". Athletics is too small clonliffe! wake up and smell the coffee!!

    The use of the track "on their time" is always a contentious issue. I know of several incidents on Clonliffe time (which is only 2 hours a week).

    One involved a guy who shouldn't be on the track as he isn't an athlete anymore and when asked to leave got very aggressive and abusive so I'd agree with getting rid of him. Another involves a girl who was a former club member but left under a cloud so I can see the point of asking her to leave if she didn't feel she wanted to be a part of the club, why still come back and train at Clonliffe club time. Another involved a hurdler who was using a lane that is designated to a particular training group (will explain this lane lark further down) and he was asked to move from that lane. We were able to accomodate him by working in on an outside lane that our group was using so that worked out fine. Another involved a training group of kids from another club with a high profile 3rd party coach being denied access. Again fair enough as the lane protocol is explained further down.

    Any athlete who requests can they work in or what lane can be used will probably always be accomodated if its possible but at their own risk. There are always several non-Clonliffe athletes training on Clonliffe time and with Clonliffe groups but you can't have a free for all.

    To properly understand the reasoning behind this you probably need to be part of a club night in Santry on either Tuesday or Thursday. The track is choc a bloc and its brilliant to be part of and it really is what athletics is about for me. Lane 1 is usually filled with the top middle distance guys doing intervals. Lane 2 may either be the womens distance and road running crew doing their reps or the mens road running crew doing theirs. Lane 3 will be the 15-20 athletes that are in one of the sprint groups. Lane 4 may be the fit4life group or the mens road running crew. Lane 5 could be the other sprint/hurdles group. Lane 6 could be the first group of teenage athletes, lane 7 the older group of teenage athletes and lane 8 the very young kids doing their various bits whether sprints/hurdles etc. The vaulters will be vaulting, the javelin throwers on the infield and the crazy eastern Europeans throwing the shot or whatever. Our small group take up a lane and are graitfull to have it. We will have people going over different heights, so one will run, do their rep, lower the heights for the next person. We could moan and whinge (we occasionally do under our breaths and complain of being 2nd class citizens:D) but we are all happy to do it (especially when the coach next is squeezing 20-30 kids around in one lane!!!). We all communicate and it works great and I love training on a packed track, it really is brilliant and if a strict policy is required to maintain that great experience the club members get, then I am fully behind it.

    Most Tuesdays from easter on are like that. Its chaotic and you need order, hence the strict Clonliffe time rule. Although not exactly like it, would a GAA or soccer team be ok with people running around on their paddock as they train especially if the place is packed. I am fully behind it. There is a scope for 'outsiders' to train once its reasonable and went about in the right way. They are usually dealt with on a case by case basis. I have no problem with people whos number one priority is The Club. Every club needs them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 athlete43


    lets try and get back to selecting people for the awards that are going to be handed out .cos if we dont then we will not be able to agree are disagree with the winners are losers and also do we all think it should be a formal black tie doo and not just a smart casual occassion considering the cost of the night in these recision times


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    athlete43 wrote: »
    lets try and get back to selecting people for the awards that are going to be handed out .cos if we dont then we will not be able to agree are disagree with the winners are losers and also do we all think it should be a formal black tie doo and not just a smart casual occassion considering the cost of the night in these recision times

    Got to be black tie to maintain some element of class. Otherwise it's a dinner dance that may be serving bangers and mash with The Conquerors on afterwards with a good scrap in the carpark and Georgie Burgess getting Sharon pregnant on the bonnet of a car in the wee hours. As Basil Fawlty might saw it keeps the riff raff out being black tie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    Tingle wrote: »
    Otherwise it's a dinner dance that may be serving bangers and mash with The Conquerors on afterwards with a good scrap in the carpark and Georgie Burgess getting Sharon pregnant on the bonnet of a car in the wee hours. As Basil Fawlty might saw it keeps the riff raff out being black tie.

    I'll have 6 tickets please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Speedygonzalez


    Athlete of the year - Olive Loughnane
    No debating it she was the only world medalist this year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭RoyMcC


    Athlete of the year - Olive Loughnane
    No debating it she was the only world medalist this year

    You'll find it's been debated fairly thoroughly in a previous thread - it's hardly that black and white.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭thirstywork


    coaches of the year Dick Hooper or Peter Mcdermot !!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    coaches of the year Dick Hooper or Peter Mcdermot !!!

    In my opinion if they are serious about the coach award Brid Golden should get it.

    As regards getting elite athletes ready and progressing them she ticks the box and then from an allround coach perspective of driving a club forward, putting systems in place, being part of creating a centre of excellence off her (as in Ferrybank's) back, hours put in etc she is the one.

    Bear in mind the following are the criteria per AAI site, she ticks all these boxes:

    - Time spent coaching / mentoring
    - Respect of the athletes for the coach / mentor
    - Dedication to the cause and willingness to go the “extra mile”
    - Results achieved by the coach / mentor
    - Contribution to the club
    - Any other information which is relevant?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 athlete43


    Athlete of the year - Olive Loughnane
    No debating it she was the only world medalist this year

    maybe you should have said olive was the only senior world medalist this year because a certain Ciara Mageean won silver at the world youth championships


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭helpisontheway


    All the nominees have been announced;one or two suprises.No Christine McMahon or Shane Quinn nominated for the emerging talent/Junior award and Leevale nominated for best club after an average year BY THEIR STANDARDS.[Still a good year].


    http://www.athleticsireland.ie/content/?p=10309


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    All the nominees have been announced;one or two suprises.No Christine McMahon or Shane Quinn nominated for the emerging talent/Junior award and Leevale nominated for best club after an average year BY THEIR STANDARDS.[Still a good year].


    http://www.athleticsireland.ie/content/?p=10309
    Athletics clubs, athletes and officials from across the country have submitted nominations for their Coach of the Year and Club of the Year which has resulted in a short-list of worthy recipients. Club of the Year nominations are Clonliffe Harriers AC, Ferrybank AC, Raheny Shamrock AC and Leevale AC.

    Agree on Leevale and I'd also question Raheny being short listed ahead of others. Tir Chonaill won it last year, had the exact same success this year and yet aren't short-listed:confused: DSD should be short-listed too. Top track at senior to rival maybe Clonliffe and their women won the inter-clubs on cross. Maybe failure to qualify for league final was bad for them but surely their juvenile success would make up for that. Ferrybank deserve to be there due to their prominence now as one of the top senior track clubs to add to their status as top juvenile club and are now truly a top, top club at both senior and juvenile. If we were looking for the true essence of a club then Ballymena should be there. I would like to see more transparency regarding the club of the year as there is inconsistency without knowing the scoring or rationale. If its merely opnion of the panel, then fair enough, I'd accept that.

    Interesting that the coach award has taken more of a step to the elite side of things as opposed to the grassroots allround club coach (not saying those nominated are not true grassroots coaches - they all are). Suppose it emphasises that our domestic coaches are top drawer and their athletes have had great years. Hope Brid Golden gets it.

    Shane and Christine are probably too young and while that could be said of Ciara I suppose her performances were such last season that you just couldn't ignore her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    I'm very aware of Eddie McDonagh (he used to coach me!) and Sean & Terry Cahill are Derval O'Rourke's coaches if I'm not mistaken but can somebody inform me who Brid Golden and Eamonn Christie coach? Just for informations sake because I'm not familiar with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭helpisontheway


    pwhite587 wrote: »
    I'm very aware of Eddie McDonagh (he used to coach me!) and Sean & Terry Cahill are Derval O'Rourke's coaches if I'm not mistaken but can somebody inform me who Brid Golden and Eamonn Christie coach? Just for informations sake because I'm not familiar with them.
    Brid Golden is the Ferrybank AC Headcoach.She coaches Kelly Proper,Niamh Whelan,Billy Ryan,Christopher Russell,Ciara Giles Doran,Ann O Shea and many more.Ferrybank AC have topped the national juvenile T+F rankings most years for the last ten years[somebody else might have an exact number] and she is now successfully getting these juvenile through to senior level which we all know is one of the hardest things to do in athletics.As well as that she has inspired many coaches including myself in the Munster region with her years of dedication to the improvement of athletics in Munster through development days,regional squads etc.While the ones being held now are good they wouldnt put a patch on the ones she used to organise imo.
    Isnt Eamonn Christie Ciara Meageens coach?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 joskel


    track athlete derval
    cross country mary cullen
    walker olive
    field kelly
    athlete of year derval
    coach of year brid
    club ferrybank
    junior ciara
    wall of fame sonia
    clean sweep for the ladies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 bad attitude


    100% agree with joskel!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 athlete43


    pwhite587 wrote: »
    I'm very aware of Eddie McDonagh (he used to coach me!) and Sean & Terry Cahill are Derval O'Rourke's coaches if I'm not mistaken but can somebody inform me who Brid Golden and Eamonn Christie coach? Just for informations sake because I'm not familiar with them.
    as far as i am aware Eamonn christie was club coach at north belfast harriers for 8years were they won every major event in Ireland both team and ind on the road and country before he moved on to rejoin Beechmount harriers Ciara is the best known athlete he coaches at present but he also coaches Jmes o,hare Irish schools x/c champion and schools 5k champion and u/20 5k champion as well as getting to serbia for the euro junior champs and if you look up results on th n.i website you will see he coaches several other Irish and ulster age group champion and schools track champions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 runrunrun


    brid golden doesnt coach niamh whelan anymore...drew and hayley harrison do..and have done for the past year


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