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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭Urizen


    Well SOMEONE got defensive.

    NAMA was just an example of something I don't want to hear about from a Journalism student stuck up their own hole.

    In relation to the CV padding and recycling comments: Deliberately missing my point to try to discredit me? That sounds like an amateur journalist to me. You're a good advocate for them so. You know perfectly well what I was saying, and that I am right in most of it.

    Twisting someone's words is an art, monument. Take the time to do it right.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Urizen wrote: »
    Well SOMEONE got defensive.

    I'm just fed up of your nonsense, it'd be ok if you were giving constructive criticism, but to date you've only posted an untrue example plucked out of your head.
    Urizen wrote: »
    NAMA was just an example of something I don't want to hear about from a Journalism student stuck up their own hole.

    It'd be great if your example was based on fact rather than on fantasy.

    If you want a more general reply: Most comment articles in most newspapers are written by commentators. More often than not, they are not experts. In any case, if a first year was making a point about Nama, it's no more of less valid than a point made by most professional columnists. It should be based on the merit of what they are saying not who they are (unless one is an expert). However, generally, I agree with you, I don't see much point in a first year commenting about Nama, but such has not been published so your example is not valid.

    As an extension of that, I don't care who you are, I just think your point is highly flawed when you continue to use a highly flawed example. If on the other hand your point is valid, you should have practice examples rather than a fictional example.

    And another general point, it's very likely -- just like in other papers -- that people won't like all comment articles. And just like with all comment sections many people will just want to skip by, and that's grand. It's only four pages, including letters and the Irish column.
    Urizen wrote: »
    In relation to the CV padding and recycling comments: Deliberately missing my point to try to discredit me? That sounds like an amateur journalist to me. You're a good advocate for them so. You know perfectly well what I was saying, and that I am right in most of it.

    No, I was not deliberately missing your point, I was deliberately highlighting that your highly flawed example had no bases in fact to show you up. It's not me who is discrediting you, by using such an example you're doing that your self.

    If you want to deal with real examples, or even general ideas of what topics this happens with in reality, that'd be helpful, but otherwise you're not dealing with reality, and you might as well be talking nonsense.
    Urizen wrote: »
    Twisting someone's words is an art, monument. Take the time to do it right.

    I'll take your word for it. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭thusspakeblixa


    I just laugh at the fact that The College View gets more stick than Campus, even when the latter engages in homophobic slurs.
    It is no coincidence that the people who give out about the CV here are not Journalism students.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭Urizen


    I didn't start against the College View. I'm obviously not going to get anywhere reasoning with anyone here, you both write for the damn thing.

    The DCU related news is good, and often well written. But it is a college newspaper, and in my opinion should deal more or less only with college related issues.

    I've gotten carried away, so I'll reiterate: I am NOT completely and irrevocaby against the College View. It simply takes itself too seriously and, evidently, so do many of its contributors.

    I would ask you both to deny that you'll put contributing to College View on your CV. I would also like you to tell me that NO ONE uses it soley for CV padding. I already know the answer to both, and you have blown everything I said far out of proportion.

    In fact, this whole thread has blown out of proportion.

    And blixa, there's a whole other thread discussing Campus, and that particular segment. Which I also find a terrible lapse in judgement.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Urizen wrote: »
    I didn't start against the College View. I'm obviously not going to get anywhere reasoning with anyone here, you both write for the damn thing.

    On boards.ie there's a general rule to play the ball and not the man.
    Urizen wrote: »
    The DCU related news is good, and often well written. But it is a college newspaper, and in my opinion should deal more or less only with college related issues.

    The vast bulk of content does relate to college related issues.

    And, yes, in this I'm including topics relating to DCU, Dublin student issues, national student issues, general third level issues which affect students, issues relating to the local community near DCU, and some international student stories.

    DCU and its students after all are not living in a bubble so some issues will affect them outside the college directly. And then you'll have major issues with will affect students.

    Urizen wrote: »
    I've gotten carried away, so I'll reiterate: I am NOT completely and irrevocaby against the College View. It simply takes itself too seriously and, evidently, so do many of its contributors.

    Good to hear you're not completely against the paper, but I'm unsure what you mean by "It takes itself too seriously" and your latter comment is just more mud slinging.
    Urizen wrote: »
    I would ask you both to deny that you'll put contributing to College View on your CV. I would also like you to tell me that NO ONE uses it soley for CV padding. I already know the answer to both,

    You mean you don't put relevant experience in your CV? :confused:

    Who are we to tell you what "NO ONE" does? We can't speak for anybody other than our selves. Is it just the newspaper you like making wide generalisations about?
    Urizen wrote: »
    and you have blown everything I said far out of proportion.

    What exactly has been blown out of proportion?
    Urizen wrote: »
    In fact, this whole thread has blown out of proportion.

    The whole thread has?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭Urizen


    I wasn't mudslinging, nor am I naming names. I'm just saying, a few people that write for it put in **** all effort and do it just to say they did it. You probably know yourself the kind. However, I'm not insinuating you or blixa have that kind of agenda.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 PixyChick


    Urizen wrote: »
    I wasn't mudslinging, nor am I naming names. I'm just saying, a few people that write for it put in **** all effort and do it just to say they did it. You probably know yourself the kind. However, I'm not insinuating you or blixa have that kind of agenda.

    Name names or STFU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭Urizen


    PixyChick wrote: »
    Name names or STFU.

    That's a bit much there. There is a modicum of decency on this forum ya know.

    Also, I have no intention of getting the ****e eaten out of me for 'defamation of character'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭Nanaki


    wuss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭irlande


    I love how any attempt to discuss publications on campus immediately turns into the pathetic camp-argument of:

    "omg campus > college view"
    "no stfu college view > campus"

    :D It's the same every year and yet both sides remain so pathetically arrogant that it actually never goes anywhere further than those two arguments.

    Makes for a fun read on boards though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    irlande wrote: »
    I love how any attempt to discuss publications on campus immediately turns into the pathetic camp-argument of:

    "omg campus > college view"
    "no stfu college view > campus"
    dont forget the "college view=campus=crap" camp :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭Urizen


    Or the pathetic descent into name calling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭MonaghanPenguin


    irlande wrote: »
    I love how any attempt to discuss publications on campus immediately turns into the pathetic camp-argument of:

    "omg campus > college view"
    "no stfu college view > campus"

    :D It's the same every year and yet both sides remain so pathetically arrogant that it actually never goes anywhere further than those two arguments.

    Makes for a fun read on boards though.

    ah god I hate when I agree with you :P


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