calling in deer

welsummer · 13-10-2009 9:25am #1

i have had limited success in calling in sika deer. I have seen 3 coming to the call at the one time and at other times ,they just look up and keep on walking in the opposite direction. the other evening i had one talking back to me from inside the wood , but i knew he was never going to move as i could hear hinds calling around him.sometimes it will work over long distances, but most times you have to be close and you are just trying to get him to cross a bit of open ground. anybody else having better success.
last year i dont think one came to the call

arrowloopboy · 13-10-2009 7:33pm

welsummer wrote: »

i have had limited success in calling in sika deer. I have seen 3 coming to the call at the one time and at other times ,they just look up and keep on walking in the opposite direction. the other evening i had one talking back to me from inside the wood , but i knew he was never going to move as i could hear hinds calling around him.sometimes it will work over long distances, but most times you have to be close and you are just trying to get him to cross a bit of open ground. anybody else having better success.
last year i dont think one came to the call

Which call u using wel ?

welsummer · 13-10-2009 9:30pm

ROE DEER BUTTOLO UNIVERSAL CALL

Highly successful with Munjac, Sika and Roe Deer.
Details

price: £13.00

also an high pitch elk cow call

arrowloopboy · 13-10-2009 10:25pm

welsummer wrote: »

ROE DEER BUTTOLO UNIVERSAL CALL

Highly successful with Munjac, Sika and Roe Deer.
Details

price: £13.00

also an high pitch elk cow call

Have you had much luck with the latter

welsummer · 14-10-2009 11:52am

it sounds better and does not tend to stick and is much better on a windy evening

BoarHunter · 14-10-2009 12:46pm

arrowloopboy wrote: »

Have you had much luck with the latter

You will rarely attract some great trophies with a butollo. the old chaps are not old for nothing

sixpointfive · 14-10-2009 3:20pm

+1

Also i think it has to be the right time of the rut for them to come to the call, sika especially tricky to know when it will work, have had reds come galloping, answer back and leg it from similar calls, guessing game to me but i think it is past the calling time now, for reds anyway, havent hear much sika this year.

DR6.5 · 14-10-2009 3:53pm

ive used the buttulo call for the last four years and have found it brillant,
in the last week ive called a couple of stags in with it, last night i was in a clearing with about a dozen hinds on it, and the stag was in the timber approx 300mtrs away, i gave three loud blasts and within a couple of minutes he came to the call he was mad in the rut.

From my experience unless the stag is rutting properly they wont respond,
this year the rut seems very gradual, i was watching a good few stags in the last week and they were feeding away mad.

A couple of lads i know use the elk call and swear by it.

DR6.5

welsummer · 14-10-2009 4:31pm

once the hinds are there the stag will come, but no way will you pull him away from his ladies.

HUBERTUS · 14-10-2009 10:51pm

The problem with this calling lark is that you do not speak their language and probably say` DANGER, DANGER, BUGGER OFF !

During the rut find the Hinds and be patient, if one is in season a Stag will soon appear.

HWH.

dwighet · 16-10-2009 6:52pm

Calling in DEAR........ I just scream out" I JUST GOT PAID"

;);)

jwshooter · 16-10-2009 8:42pm

i watched two ass holes tuesday or wednesday eve in a black land cruiser towing a honda quad ,stop on the sally gap they tryed to call the stag that i was stalking.with 3 very poor efforts from a whistle.

deer are a little brighter than some after them.

dwighet · 16-10-2009 10:03pm

jwshooter wrote: »

i watched two ass holes tuesday or wednesday eve in a black land cruiser towing a honda quad ,stop on the sally gap they tryed to call the stag that i was stalking.with 3 very poor efforts from a whistle.

deer are a little brighter than some after them.

J.W. Are you sure they were Ass Holes? Maybe they were novices like myself and many others using this site chancing there arm at trying the whistle to see if they get a respond. the only way to get experience is to put a method into practice....if it works, well and good...If it fails,we take a differant approach..we arent all blessed with years of deer stalking experience.

having that said and dont get me wrong...do you ever use a whistle to get some attention during this time of year?

Anyways..good shooting for the weekend. hope ya get a few..hope I get to see one..lol

jwshooter · 16-10-2009 10:37pm

dwighet wrote: »

J.W. Are you sure they were Ass Holes? Maybe they were novices like myself and many others using this site chancing there arm at trying the whistle to see if they get a respond. the only way to get experience is to put a method into practice....if it works, well and good...If it fails,we take a differant approach..we arent all blessed with years of deer stalking experience.

having that said and dont get me wrong...do you ever use a whistle to get some attention during this time of year?

Anyways..good shooting for the weekend. hope ya get a few..hope I get to see one..lol

i was setting my self up for a dash off the hill ,if the stag did respond and came with in there range would they have shot it ?.

dwighet · 16-10-2009 10:43pm

jwshooter wrote: »

i was setting my self up for a dash off the hill ,if the stag did respond and came with in there range would they have shot it ?.

was it there ground? or lads taking a chance?

clivej · 17-10-2009 9:21am

jwshooter wrote: »

i watched two ass holes tuesday or wednesday eve in a black land cruiser towing a honda quad ,stop on the sally gap they tryed to call the stag that i was stalking.with 3 very poor efforts from a whistle.

deer are a little brighter than some after them.

To many ass holes about. Meet one last week but thats a different story.

Were they still on the public road calling from the 4X4 or had they got out onto the land????????

jwshooter · 17-10-2009 9:46am

clivej wrote: »

To many ass holes about. Meet one last week but thats a different story.

Were they still on the public road calling from the 4X4 or had they got out onto the land????????

one in the 4x4 one on the roof of it ,on a public rd. one side is national park the other is private .

it will not be a big job to find out who they are .

clivej · 17-10-2009 10:59am

jwshooter wrote: »

one in the 4x4 one on the roof of it ,on a public rd. one side is national park the other is private .

it will not be a big job to find out who they are .

My opinion - you should report them to the local authorities as it would appear that they were poaching. Stupidity at it's best - poaching at it's worst.

If not poaching then they would have been on the private land "That they had permission to be on"

J. Ramone · 18-10-2009 11:13am

Poaching is a lot more rampant in Wiklow this year. I had the choice of three sika stags on morning of September 1. I haven't seen one since. A herd of fallow deserted my ground after the first couple of weeks of the season. It's reaching the point where something serious will have to be done.

thedragon · 18-10-2009 12:59pm

[quote=J.. A herd of fallow deserted my ground after the first couple of weeks of the season. It's reaching the point where something serious will have to be done.[/quote]

Its sad to have to say this but if you dont do something about this yourself then Im afraid nothing will be done. We had a ranger that I posted comments about here. He did a pretty good job in the area which was Ballygar county Galway, the only real problem at the time was that he didnt feel that the law applied to himself and he displayed a complete conflict of interest. I believe he might be gone now or as the Irish system usually goes,moved on. But I think in general,rangers are only ever seen in the daytime hours when poachers are in there beds. Unlike our man,he spent a lot of time out at night,like I said he had a big conflict of interest.

jwshooter · 18-10-2009 1:10pm

thedragon wrote: »

Its sad to have to say this but if you dont do something about this yourself then Im afraid nothing will be done. We had a ranger that I posted comments about here. He did a pretty good job in the area which was Ballygar county Galway, the only real problem at the time was that he didnt feel that the law applied to himself and he displayed a complete conflict of interest. I believe he might be gone now or as the Irish system usually goes,moved on. But I think in general,rangers are only ever seen in the daytime hours when poachers are in there beds. Unlike our man,he spent a lot of time out at night,like I said he had a big conflict of interest.

and you have proof of this ranger ? did he not have a lamping licence for deer ?

are you not the guy that posted hear not so long.
that you committed a offence under the wild life act of poaching a deer with a guy in a merc jeep.
you might not have pulled the trigger but you assisted in a illegal act making you every bit as guilty .

thedragon · 18-10-2009 1:45pm

jwshooter wrote: »

and you have proof of this ranger ? did he not have a lamping licence for deer ?

are you not the guy that posted hear not so long.
that you committed a offence under the wild life act of poaching a deer with a guy in a merc jeep.
you might not have pulled the trigger but you assisted in a illegal act making you every bit as guilty .

No that wasnt me,infact I dont think I even know anyone with a Merc jeep. No that ranger didnt have a lamping licence either.

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