re mapping car ?

bk1991

hi guys have ye ever re maped a car before is it good thing bad or a bad thing pros and cons .also doesn it affect the insurance ????

abceire

it all depends on alot of things if its good or bad, like you can get it mapped by a monkey who ll do **** job,or the re map might help with other mods u already have on your car,re map might actually make your car less likely to blow up, alot of cars 2nd hand jap ones that are brought in need mapping to run safe on out 95 ron petrol
really need more details about your car to say
there a guy out maynooth way who ment to be good

bk1991

abceire wrote: »

it all depends on alot of things if its good or bad, like you can get it mapped by a monkey who ll do **** job,or the re map might help with other mods u already have on your car,re map might actually make your car less likely to blow up, alot of cars 2nd hand jap ones that are brought in need mapping to run safe on out 95 ron petrol
really need more details about your car to say
there a guy out maynooth way who ment to be good

ok what i was goen do is get an audi a4 or passat 1.9tdi and get it maped to 130bhp so the tax book would still say 100brake the insurance would be same as i am 18 i cant get insurance on a 130bhp

even though the 130 passsats are cheeper than the 100ones

Atomic Pineapple

tax book doesn't say anything about a cars horse power.

a remap should be declared to the insurance company, otherwise your just paying for an expensive piece of paper

bk1991

draffodx wrote: »

tax book doesn't say anything about a cars horse power.

a remap should be declared to the insurance company, otherwise your just paying for an expensive piece of paper

i was thinking that if its not on the insurnace its not insured ?
have few friends that have it done like that insured as standard and its remaped to 130

cormie

Was also looking to find out this.

Would be looking to remap a 1.7 astra van with 73BHP to something just a bit more nippy if it's worth it.

Won't be hiding anything from insurance companies so would like to know if it would be worth it for extra power.

Any feedback appreciated

hi_im_fil

Draffodx is right. You will have to declare the map to your insurance company. If you don't you basically are not insured due to the principle of utmost good faith.

@ Cormie - Is the astra van a turbo diesel? Tbh you won't see any noticeable gains on an N/A engine from remapping

abceire

draffodx wrote: »

tax book doesn't say anything about a cars horse power.

a remap should be declared to the insurance company, otherwise your just paying for an expensive piece of paper

yes you should tell insurance company, but i doubt if you have a crash they ll start checking the map of your car,plus who could always try say you bought it like that if they did find out, i knew a guy who had a charade turbo that he d spent someone on , got it to around 125bhp,and had it insured as a na 1litre should of had 50bhp, not that was taking the mick,
ring the places that do it up i d say,ask there advice, one is Couture Auto Dunboyne

Atomic Pineapple

abceire wrote: »

yes you should tell insurance company, but i doubt if you have a crash they ll start checking the map of your car

you'd be suprised, insurance companies aren't stupid, they will be aware that remapping is on the increase and will certainly mark an 18 year old in a tdi A4 as a potential remap.

An insurance company will then do anything to get out of paying in the event of a crash, if they feel theres a chance there was a remap they'll check.

abceire wrote: »

plus who could always try say you bought it like that if they did find out

I doubt that would work, a remap is a selling point so a seller will list it while selling the car on

cormie

hi_im_fil wrote: »

@ Cormie - Is the astra van a turbo diesel? Tbh you won't see any noticeable gains on an N/A engine from remapping

Yup it would be a DTI engine. What's an N/A engine?

Atomic Pineapple

cormie wrote: »

Yup it would be a DTI engine. What's an N/A engine?

normally aspirated.

if it has a turbo then a remap will give good gains, you could get around 100 - 110 bhp

tossy

cormie wrote: »

Yup it would be a DTI engine. What's an N/A engine?

N/A = naturally aspirated

There are 2 ways of getting Air into an engine.

1 natural aspiration - the car just relies on atmospheric pressure to draw air in,i.e whatever air is taken in as the car drives along.

2. Forced induction - The car is either Turbo or Super charged these suck in a greater volume of air than would be otherwise possible under normal driving conditions.

Forced induction cars generally remap better as you have boost parameters to play around with.

bk1991

so if i remaped an a4 to 130 it be better stateing on insurance ?
they wont quoate any under 21 on 130 even as named driver or am i wrong quinn wont ?

cormie

Ah cool, so it being a TURBO and forced is a good thing and I could get the 73 bhp to around 100/110? How much would something like this cost? Would it effect fuel efficiency and if it's got 58MPG at 1.7l 73 BHP, with a 2.0 of the same car with 98BHP having 47MPG. What would a remapped 1.7l at 110bhp likely to get in MPG I wonder? Would the Litre spec of the car change? I mean would I have to tell Insurance company it's not a 1.7, but a 1.9 or something like this? They don't ask about BHP ever but they do ask has it been modified in any way, I've never said yes to this question, so I'm guessing it's then they ask about the re-map?

TestTransmission

cormie wrote: »

Ah cool, so it being a TURBO and forced is a good thing and I could get the 73 bhp to around 100/110? How much would something like this cost? Would it effect fuel efficiency and if it's got 58MPG at 1.7l 73 BHP, with a 2.0 of the same car with 98BHP having 47MPG. What would a remapped 1.7l at 110bhp likely to get in MPG I wonder? Would the Litre spec of the car change? I mean would I have to tell Insurance company it's not a 1.7, but a 1.9 or something like this? They don't ask about BHP ever but they do ask has it been modified in any way, I've never said yes to this question, so I'm guessing it's then they ask about the re-map?

I was quoted recently 320 euro to have my car remapped.
Being a diesel you're remapping you would probably increase your MPG.
It would still remain a 1.7,you would have to tell the insurance company that it has been remapped.

Sorry,Im no expert on this..just know the basics.

cormie

320 isn't so bad. Does the cost increase the higher the BHP? Is €320 from a reputable garage inclusive of VAT do you know? Any recommendations on who to use?

Are you sure you meant to say increase my MPG? As in I'd get MORE miles :eek:

Thanks for all the info so far

abceire

Couture Auto Dunboyne , i know a few have gone here and were pleased with the service, sound guys too,there is martin in westward engineering too who s been at it donkeys years,both places have a rolling road to do it on

TestTransmission

Westward engineering quoted me 509...alot more expensive than anywhere else ive been quoted

tossy

ChippedIre is the only place for the Job.Westward are a Revo dealer,Revo is good but expensive for a generic map.

Gumbo

www.autoremap.ie

they done a group buy here a few months back and im very happy with the results.

abceire

jackncoke wrote: »

Westward engineering quoted me 509...alot more expensive than anywhere else ive been quoted

i d more so pick a place because you ve heard they do good work rather then just the price, i ve heard good few horror stories over the years,some guys will get you lots of power but it wont be safe

cormie

kceire wrote: »

www.autoremap.ie

they done a group buy here a few months back and im very happy with the results.

They are pretty close to me. I see on the site it says it will increase MPG :eek: Maybe it would be worth it. Be interesting to see what they could do with a Ford Transit 2.4TD and a Opel Astra 1.7 DTI.

Fegz088

abceire wrote: »

it all depends on alot of things if its good or bad, like you can get it mapped by a monkey who ll do **** job,or the re map might help with other mods u already have on your car,re map might actually make your car less likely to blow up, alot of cars 2nd hand jap ones that are brought in need mapping to run safe on out 95 ron petrol
really need more details about your car to say
there a guy out maynooth way who ment to be good

is this true about the re-mapping for petrol, i drive an altezza just wondering do u think it would be nessesary, also is it expensive??

abceire

i think it was more a problem on evo s and the like, more turbo cars or tuned cars,as they were tuned in japan to suit the higher octane petrol they have