Adult caution

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 1:39pm #1

Can you be given an adult warning from a guard for saying thats F ing stupid to a lollipop lady ?

hobochris · 08-10-2009 1:41pm

lol.. a what?

jeckle · 08-10-2009 2:00pm

You can be given one for

Harassment or [FONT=&quot][/FONT]
Significant or persistent alarm, distress, fear or intimidation or
Significant or persistent impairment of their use or enjoyment of their property.

I suppose doing what you did could be considered as one of the above.

Leave the Lollipop Lady alone! She's only doing her job.

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 2:11pm

adult caution sorry. its very strange that you can get in trouble for cursing sure at that rate everyone would be on it. i had a reason to say it so i think il refuse the warning n go to court

thorbarry · 08-10-2009 2:18pm

blahblah06 wrote: »

adult caution sorry. its very strange that you can get in trouble for cursing sure at that rate everyone would be on it. i had a reason to say it so i think il refuse the warning n go to court

do go on, what happened?

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 2:43pm

lol. was dropping of a child outside a school. Child has Autism I admit i parked in the clear way to allow him and his mum out as soon as they got out i drove of but this lollipop lady was shouting you should not have stopped there etc i just said sorry but the kid has autism then tried to explain and she kept talking over me so i then said well thats fing stupid exactly one month to the day i get a call from a guard telling me to go to the staiton. I go in and they said i will be recommended to the super to get an adult caution LoL its bloody hilarious tbh

ps if anyone on this forum slags me anymore im going to report them and get a caution LOL

thorbarry · 08-10-2009 2:55pm

blahblah06 wrote: »

ps if anyone on this forum slags me anymore im going to report them and get a caution LOL

lol

thats pretty ridiculous, sounds like a lollipop lady on a power trip

RosieJoe · 08-10-2009 2:56pm

blahblah06 wrote: »

ps if anyone on this forum slags me anymore im going to report them and get a caution LOL

That's just F ing stupid

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 2:58pm

lol tell me about it. Nuts

jeckle · 08-10-2009 3:03pm

Why are you bringing Autism into this?

IM0 · 08-10-2009 3:11pm

blahblah06 wrote: »

lol. was dropping of a child outside a school. Child has Autism I admit i parked in the clear way to allow him and his mum out as soon as they got out i drove of but this lollipop lady was shouting you should not have stopped there etc i just said sorry but the kid has autism

as far as I know Autism is a mental disorder, not a physical one, so parking there on grounds of disability (which it sounds like you were getting at since you mentioned autism) isnt exactly warranted is it, more an excuse rather than a need.

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 3:14pm

well for someone who didnt know this about the child i thought i was doing right by stopping there putting the hazards on letting the child and mother out safely and close to the school. I dont know anything about disorders so I thought I was doing right and I stand by what I did when it came to the child. I didnt park there for more than 30 seconds

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 3:15pm

jeckle wrote: »

Why are you bringing Autism into this?

because I was asked what happened and I said what happened and my reasons for doing it. is that ok ?

pab_lowe · 08-10-2009 3:23pm

Did she not see that you had your international I don't give a fup about rules, I'm stopping here signal hazards on

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 3:27pm

she must not have pab no. As I said already I explained myself so dont need comments like that from people like you.

So tell me you must know the answer to my question at the start can you answer it for me or are you just going to make an argument out of a question

Whitewater-AGS · 08-10-2009 4:02pm

Sounds like you committed an offence under section 6 of the criminal justice public order act 1994, people are entitled to go about their business in a public place without people swearing at them.

Link to section
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1994/en/act/pub/0002/sec0006.html

I'd also say the caution is your best bet as no judge is going to accept you swearing at a lollipop lady when kids are going to school.

jeckle · 08-10-2009 4:22pm

blahblah06 wrote: »

because I was asked what happened and I said what happened and my reasons for doing it. is that ok ?

You are the one facing the criminal charges if you don't accept the caution, not me, so it's ok by me.

You seem to think by shouting Autism that you can flaunt the rules & get away with it. I don't. The Lollipop Lady doesn't, the Gardai don't, the Judge won't - but you do, so that's ok.

Sorted:)

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 4:44pm

jeckle wrote: »

You are the one facing the criminal charges if you don't accept the caution, not me, so it's ok by me.

You seem to think by shouting Autism that you can flaunt the rules & get away with it. I don't. The Lollipop Lady doesn't, the Gardai don't, the Judge won't - but you do, so that's ok.

Sorted:)

who shouted autism? I never made an issue of it to the woman i simply tried to explain.
i panicked with the kid god sake give a guy a break. it was the first time to ever experience anything like that with the kid and a disability.

I have already said to the garda in question that im sorry and explained about the problems during the journey but found it a bit harsh for this to be said to me at the end of it

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 4:45pm

Whitewater-AGS wrote: »

Sounds like you committed an offence under section 6 of the criminal justice public order act 1994, people are entitled to go about their business in a public place without people swearing at them.

Link to section
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1994/en/act/pub/0002/sec0006.html

I'd also say the caution is your best bet as no judge is going to accept you swearing at a lollipop lady when kids are going to school.

I appreciate that reply. Is it on the "record" do you know. will it affect me in the future or is it just a slap on the wrists

Whitewater-AGS · 08-10-2009 4:51pm

blahblah06 wrote: »

I appreciate that reply. Is it on the "record" do you know. will it affect me in the future or is it just a slap on the wrists

Basically its your first and last strike,the gardai will keep a record of the caution but its not a conviction so you've no criminal record as such.

blahblah06 · 08-10-2009 4:58pm

thank you

Reloc8 · 12-10-2009 1:23pm

I take it you mean the non-statutory Adult Caution scheme and not the ASBO type stuff.

The Adult Caution Scheme is operated in circumstances where a person has no or insignificant criminal convictions, the offence alleged is minor and non-violent and crucially, they consent to receiving the caution. So no matter what you do it can't be applied to you unless you agree.

In a general sense telling someone to fup off could constitute a breach of the peace contrary to common law or s. 6 of the Criminal Justice Public Order Act 1994, or offensive behaviour (outside certain hours or if requested to stop by a garda) contrary to the s. 5 of the same act.

Bottom line...whether you are offered the scheme is totally up to the gardai, whether you agree to accept caution is totally up to you. If you don't accept the offer of a caution, in most circumstances you are instead charged with the appropriate offence.

jeckle · 12-10-2009 1:43pm

blahblah06 wrote: »

who shouted autism?
i panicked with the kid god sake give a guy a break.

This is exactly what the Garda is trying to do!

You have to meet him half way by accepting the caution, otherwise you'll have to take your chances in court, but bringing Autism into the equation, or your lack of knowledge on the condition, will not help you!

Adult caution

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