The Coronas' Recording

PaulBrewer

I just heard a new Coronas single on the radio there -

Is there anyone here involved with them?

From a sonic point of view it came across very well on my car's 4 inch speakers as I cruised the Boulevards of Tullamore ....

Anyone know who produced/engineered/mixed it or where it was done ?

Sonic Respect to those involved.




Didn't think a whole lot of the song mind ........butsure...

Seziertisch

If I remember correctly, I think I heard some interview with (some of) them and they were recording in Sawmills in Britain.

PaulBrewer

Ah - that's a pity I thought it might be somewhere local.

However now you mention it that does ring a bell

dav nagle

Their first album was recorded in The Cauldron with Ciaran Byrne, their second was recorded with a major producer I hear.

PaulBrewer

Ciaran is a Major Producer !

dav nagle

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Ciaran is a Major Producer !

I couldn't agree more but I heard from Danny's cousin Eoghan that they have been in some foreign country working on an album with a guy who has recorded huge bands from the UK like Muse and so on.

TelePaul

dav nagle wrote: »

I couldn't agree more but I heard from Danny's cousin Eoghan that they have been in some foreign country working on an album with a guy who has recorded huge bands from the UK like Muse and so on.

Not John Leckie????!!!

PaulBrewer

Just had a peek on their website , John Cornfield is the chap, Supergrass etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cornfield

bedbugs

Who's bankrolling them? I honestly think it's the worst muck Ive heard in years. When the songs are that bad, it doesn't matter how well it's recorded, it makes my ears bleed.

In my opinion of course.

PaulBrewer

bedbugs wrote: »

Who's bankrolling them? I honestly think it's the worst muck Ive heard in years. When the songs are that bad, it doesn't matter how well it's recorded, it makes my ears bleed.

In my opinion of course.

mada999

bedbugs wrote: »

Who's bankrolling them? I honestly think it's the worst muck Ive heard in years. When the songs are that bad, it doesn't matter how well it's recorded, it makes my ears bleed.

In my opinion of course.

isn't one of them Mary Black's son ?

Rockshamrover

Aren't these the guys that did "Heroes or Ghosts"?

Was that an original of theirs? If so, I think it's pretty good. Credit where credit's due.

Personal taste aside. Just looking at Youtube and the amount of people that have covered this track is pretty high. They obviously connected with the masses on this one.

bedbugs

mada999 wrote: »

isn't one of them Mary Black's son ?

Bingo. And there ya have it. It all makes sense now.

dav nagle

mada999 wrote: »

isn't one of them Mary Black's son ?

Thats a roger over.

PaulBrewer

mada999 wrote: »

isn't one of them Mary Black's son ?

bedbugs wrote: »

Bingo. And there ya have it. It all makes sense now.

As does Yore Ma have any influence on your recordings ?:rolleyes:

68 lost souls

To be honest with you guys, even if its not your taste they are a really good band, hard working and with a great sound. They have been at it a long time and working hard to make their way since they were kids. I reckon they have been together around 7 or 8 years if memory serves me correct, could be as much as ten, so they know whwat they are at, no matter who they are related to they have really made their own way.

PaulBrewer

68 lost souls wrote: »

To be honest with you guys, even if its not your taste they are a really good band, hard working and with a great sound. They have been at it a long time and working hard to make their way since they were kids. I reckon they have been together around 7 or 8 years if memory serves me correct, could be as much as ten, so they know whwat they are at, no matter who they are related to they have really made their own way.

I agree, musically they do little for me but I admire lads who just get on with it - as opposed to just talk/post about it ! Fair Fecks to em !

dav nagle

68 lost souls wrote: »

To be honest with you guys, even if its not your taste they are a really good band, hard working and with a great sound. They have been at it a long time and working hard to make their way since they were kids. I reckon they have been together around 7 or 8 years if memory serves me correct, could be as much as ten, so they know whwat they are at, no matter who they are related to they have really made their own way.

Yes I agree with you 100%

bedbugs

PaulBrewer wrote: »

As does Yore Ma have any influence on your recordings ?:rolleyes:

Only her bleedin ghost

iamnothim

yeah - not that it hasn't been answered already, but John Cornfield did it all. Produced, Mixed and Mastered by himself in his studio in Cornwall. Lovely guy too, had the pleasure of visiting them for a weekend while they were there. They were there for 6 weeks in total, resedential studio, only accessible by boat. Wonderful place i gotta say. Not got the best gear in the world, or the best rooms, but John really knows what he's doing. I was only there during the mixing phase, but still racked Johns brains a bit about how he was doing things.

krd

PaulBrewer wrote: »

I just heard a new Coronas single on the radio there -

Is there anyone here involved with them?

From a sonic point of view it came across very well on my car's 4 inch speakers as I cruised the Boulevards of Tullamore ....

Anyone know who produced/engineered/mixed it or where it was done ?

Sonic Respect to those involved.




Didn't think a whole lot of the song mind ........butsure...

Out of curiousity Paul - when you're working on stuff - do you have as a method of your production - a means of playing back your production work on your car stereo. with all the FM station exciterisation - for listening back during gothic travels over the strange alien planetary scqpe that is the Irish midlands

please excuse my lack of proper punctuation - i', using a messed up keyboard


I never knew Mary Black had son - I do know some of the blacks and they are very talented musicians



I am only an amateur - but one of my production theories for how something is going to sound on fm radio - is not down to how compression and limiting and stereo hi eq excitement is done on what leaves the studio - but in knowing what's going to happen when the recording gets mangelised through the fm stations mangaliser

In short a dull mono recording is going to co,e out in stereo with sparley hi's once it's broadcast fm

iamnothim

krd wrote: »

I never knew Mary Black had son - I do know some of the blacks and they are very talented musicians

Two sons and a daughter!
Danny fronts The Coronas, but Roisín O'Reilly is getting out there now too as a singer songwriter.
http://www.myspace.com/roseoreilly

dav nagle

iamnothim wrote: »

Two sons and a daughter!
Danny fronts The Coronas, but Roisín O'Reilly is getting out there now too as a singer songwriter.
http://www.myspace.com/roseoreilly

Francis has a wonderful family too, Aoife is recording her debut EP and Eoghan Scott is a purist on every level (serious trad player and songwriter), was in a band with him a decade ago, ahh smoking spliffs and making music, the good old days, the answer to everything musical used to be a joint.

krd

dav nagle wrote: »

Francis has a wonderful family too, Aoife is recording her debut EP and Eoghan Scott is a purist on every level (serious trad player and songwriter), was in a band with him a decade ago, ahh smoking spliffs and making music, the good old days, the answer to everything musical used to be a joint.

Spliffs - I think it used to be called pre-production.

The Blacks - there's loads of them. (More then I've fingers for counting)


I can see how people might perceive nepotism with them (As this being Ireland) - but any success any of them has had was really down to themselves. Although Mary or Frances oeuvre, wouldn't be my thing - they were able to do something interesting and different that many people appreciated.

(As for Ireland and nepotism - there's been more then a few occasions where people have made a fair deal of progress purely down to them being the children of the Irish elite - which is a very small gene pool. Usually they run out of steam, when after all the press attention and such, it emerges that there's very little talent behind the bluster.

The kids of successful musician have an advantage of being able to get better music lessons the everyone else. Which makes life easier - but they still have to do it for themselves in the end of the day

But it's a funny country)

Rockshamrover

krd wrote: »

Spliffs - I think it used to be called pre-production.

The Blacks - there's loads of them. (More then I've fingers for counting)


I can see how people might perceive nepotism with them (As this being Ireland) - but any success any of them has had was really down to themselves. Although Mary or Frances oeuvre, wouldn't be my thing - they were able to do something interesting and different that many people appreciated.

(As for Ireland and nepotism - there's been more then a few occasions where people have made a fair deal of progress purely down to them being the children of the Irish elite - which is a very small gene pool. Usually they run out of steam, when after all the press attention and such, it emerges that there's very little talent behind the bluster.

The kids of successful musician have an advantage of being able to get better music lessons the everyone else. Which makes life easier - but they still have to do it for themselves in the end of the day

But it's a funny country)

That's all very true.

I can't think of anybody who had an international hit because of their mammy and daddy (apart from Nancy Sinatra)

PaulBrewer

Rockshamrover wrote: »

That's all very true.

I can't think of anybody who had an international hit because of their mammy and daddy (apart from Nancy Sinatra)

Natalie Cole ? Julian Lennon ?

Rockshamrover

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Natalie Cole ? Julian Lennon ?

Oh yeah, forgot about them.

Didn't Elvis's daughter also have a brief flirt with the pop world.

Actually one of the guys from The Strokes also has a famous songwriter dad, Albert Hammond. He wrote some massive hits in the 60's.

I just checked the internet and there are lots of people with famous parents in the music biz.

Looks like having a famous parent can make a difference.


Debby Boone - Pat Boone.

Rocky Burnette - Johnny Burnette.

David Cassidy - Jack Cassidy.

Shaun Cassidy - Jack Cassidy and Shirley Jones.

Eagle-Eye Cherry - Don Cherry.

Neneh Cherry - Don Cherry.

Natalie Cole - Nat 'King' Cole.

Daryl Dragon (aka the Captain of Captain & Tennille) - Carmen Dragon (conductor).

Jakob Dylan (The Wallflowers) - Bob Dylan.

Sheila E. - Pete Escovedo (of Azteca).

Andrew Gold - Ernest Gold (film composer) and Marni Nixon.

Kennedy Gordy (aka Rockwell) - son of Motown chairman Berry Gordy.

Chesney Hawkes - Len "Chip" Hawkes.

Whitney Houston - Cissy Houston.

Enrique Iglesias - Julio Iglesias.

Jack Jones - John Jones.

Julian Lennon - John Lennon.

Gerald and Sean Levert (both of Levert) - Eddie Levert (of the O'Jays).

Gary Lewis - Jerry Lewis (comic).

Terry Melcher (of The Rip Chords) - Bruce Johnston (of The Beach Boys) and Doris Day.

Ricky Nelson - Ozzie Nelson.

Gunnar and Matthew Nelson (of Nelson) - Ricky Nelson.

Chynna Phillips (of Wilson Phillips) - John and Michelle Phillips (of The Mamas and the Papas).

Shellie and Karen Poole (both of Alisha's Attic) - Brian Poole (Brian Poole & The Tremeloes).

Bonnie Raitt - John Raitt.

L.A. Reid (of The Deele) - Herb Rooney and Brenda Reid (of The Exciters).

Dr. J. Rosenberg (Will To Power) - Gloria Mann.

Dara Sedaka - Neil Sedaka.

Nancy Sinatra - Ol' Blue Eyes himself.

Zak Starkey - Ringo Starr.

Brenda K. Starr - Harvey Kaplan (of The Spiral Starecase).

Bob Rosenberg (of Will to Power) - Gloria Mann.

Carla Thomas - Rufus Thomas.

David Townsend (of Surface) - Ed Townsend.

Kim Wilde - Marty Wilde.

Carnie and Wendy Wilson (both of Wilson Phillips) - Brian Wilson (Beach Boys).

Linda Womack (of Womack and Womack) - Sam Cooke.

Dweezil Zappa - Frank Zappa.

Aridstarling

Miley Cyrus.

woodsdenis

Jason Bonham

Seziertisch

In most cases the offspring never really come out of the shadow of their famous forefathers and mothers. In most cases they are more famous for being someone's son or daughter than anything they have produced in their own right.

jtsuited

wow, nobody's mentioned the genetics part of it yet?

highly talented people will have highly talented offspring. Couple that with being brought up in an environment where music is a life consuming profession as opposed to a casual hobby and you can see why it's so common.

Yes, some people get to use their contacts, but by and large serious talent runs in families.
I can actually think of one very famous irish female singer who has a sister who is completely unknown but is the best all round traditional musician I've ever seen (and there's a general consensus on that from people who know her).

People will always like to blame simple nepotism for relations of famous people doing well, when I think the genetics is far far far more important.

Seziertisch

jtsuited wrote: »

wow, nobody's mentioned the genetics part of it yet?

highly talented people will have highly talented offspring. Couple that with being brought up in an environment where music is a life consuming profession as opposed to a casual hobby and you can see why it's so common.

Yes, some people get to use their contacts, but by and large serious talent runs in families.
I can actually think of one very famous irish female singer who has a sister who is completely unknown but is the best all round traditional musician I've ever seen (and there's a general consensus on that from people who know her).

People will always like to blame simple nepotism for relations of famous people doing well, when I think the genetics is far far far more important.

To a certain extent, yeah, but would anyone know who Sean and Julian Lennon were if it wasn't for their father (and mother in the case of the former)? I say no. There are of course exceptions, Rufus and Martha Wainwright for example, but generally speaking the chances of you being great if your ma or da is great are pretty low.

Greatness is something more than talent or whatever, and requires an element of personality that no amount of good breeding or connections can bring.

krd

There's also crucially family support.

I knew people who had pro musicians for parents. Their ambitions were taken seriously and they were encouraged. A little bit of talent pushed can go a long way, on the other hand if a kid has talent and they have no support it's virtually impossible for them to get anywhere.

On the other hand if you had parents like mine - My evil bitch of a mother smashed my first guitar against a wall, and 'banned' me from learning to play it - I had to hide another guitar in a friend's garden shed. (It wasn't a case of 'bought a guitar to punish your Ma' - she also banned me from painting or drawing or any other avenue of self expression)

My mother believed I should have been concentrating on developing my skills for a carreer, working the counter of Woodies DIY. (That bit's not a joke).

Rockshamrover

krd wrote: »

There's also crucially family support.

I knew people who had pro musicians for parents. Their ambitions were taken seriously and they were encouraged. A little bit of talent pushed can go a long way, on the other hand if a kid has talent and they have no support it's virtually impossible for them to get anywhere.

On the other hand if you had parents like mine - My evil bitch of a mother smashed my first guitar against a wall, and 'banned' me from learning to play it - I had to hide another guitar in a friend's garden shed. (It wasn't a case of 'bought a guitar to punish your Ma' - she also banned me from painting or drawing or any other avenue of self expression)

My mother believed I should have been concentrating on developing my skills for a carreer, working the counter of Woodies DIY. (That bit's not a joke).

That's crazy stuff, but by the same token you probably got more into music because of her negative reaction than you would have had your mother had a neutral response to your desire to do music.

My interest in music came from a similarish background. My dad had an acoustic guitar which we were told never to touch. As soon as he was out of sight we were up messing with the guitar.

I have lots of musical instruments here in the house and they are not off limits to the kids. Strangely enough, they haven't the slightest interest in them.

Forbidden fruit always tastes better.