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Propaganda

  • 04-10-2009 12:51pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29


    I am constantly amazed at how easily the average person is taken in by propaganda. I mean, it only takes a few stories in the media and the masses are spouting off about some new issues that we "must be saved from." "Where are the governemnt on this issue".

    So my question is, are you taken in by propaganda?

    Are you taken in by propaganda 55 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    16% 9 votes
    Save the whales.
    83% 46 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    No, I quite like whalemeat though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    Nope. I get my news from AH mainly, and that comes with a dash of cynicism already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Nuclear-Propaganda-poster-41458.jpg
    Best propoganda poster ever! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 SineadLewis


    Nope. I get my news from AH mainly, and that comes with a dash of cynicism already.

    Some clown has just started a thread on this "sexy" chinese army. This is propaganda and yer man sucked the whole thing in.

    In this "great wee country" the people have suddently developed a social conscience. We are all for saving evevrything, how about you save yourselves first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Moral outrage is the hobby of the 21st century


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    Some clown has just started a thread on this "sexy" chinese army. This is propaganda and yer man sucked the whole thing in.

    I think thats more just a lad ogling a load of hot ladies in uniform. The other use of the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 924 ✭✭✭Elliemental


    I like to think i`m cynical enough to utterly disbelieve everything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 SineadLewis


    Agricola wrote: »
    Moral outrage is the hobby of the 21st century


    You said it, especially when it helps to line your pockets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I don't get to have a proper gander at anything these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 924 ✭✭✭Elliemental


    Some clown has just started a thread on this "sexy" chinese army. This is propaganda and yer man sucked the whole thing in.


    Say what you like about the Chinese regime, but you`ve got to admit, if the `clown` you refer to is talking about..

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/files/gallery/A-group-of-women-soldiers080909105935.jpg


    ...you`ve got to admit, the uniform is very flattering and stylish.

    (I`m not excusing the human rights abuses, just stating that the Women`s Militia uniform is rather pretty).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Vote Yes for Jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Morlar wrote: »
    Vote Yes for Jobs.
    Vote no to Abortion
    The EU LOVE low wages
    €1.84 wages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    They want to steal you Babbies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    @ OP, what's the difference between propaganda and normal advertising?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭wolfric


    how can you not be susceptible to propaganda?

    How do you expect to find the truth? Every source can be fixed. Hell even what you see can be manipulated by your mind. Not even hypnosis can bring out a true event. (Cases proven where hypnosis brought out fantasies rather then reality) Only difference between propaganda and information is one sounds like it has bad intent behind it. You can never really tell.

    No source is 100% creditable. Unfortunately with knowledge of this it's undesirable to act upon it and be paranoid about everything as it's a waste of life... Most of the time there's such a subtle difference between the truth and what you know or what peoples intentions are that it's just not worth the effort.

    when you assume you make an "ass-u-me"... complete bull**** right there... you assume you're awake right now... You assume those pictures of the earth are real, that you're not just sick and dreaming **** up when they tell you the earth is round.... You assume that a door will open when you pull the handle.. You assume you know what's right and wrong.... You assume everything you know because we are potentially flawed... and with that potential flawed nature we cannot ascertain what is flawless and therefore believable. Essentially we could have built our whole humanity on top of fallacy after fallacy (and we probably have to a great extent)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Some clown has just started a thread on this "sexy" chinese army. This is propaganda and yer man sucked the whole thing in.

    In this "great wee country" the people have suddently developed a social conscience. We are all for saving evevrything, how about you save yourselves first.

    How about you get off your high horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Some clown has just started a thread on this "sexy" chinese army. This is propaganda and yer man sucked the whole thing in.

    In this "great wee country" the people have suddently developed a social conscience. We are all for saving evevrything, how about you save yourselves first.
    Jealous much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    So my question is, are you taken in by propaganda?

    Everyone is, on some level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    GaNjaHaN wrote: »
    @ OP, what's the difference between propaganda and normal advertising?

    I would presume that an advertisement is quite easy to spot , whereas propaganda is a little bit more subtle.

    Flat Earth News by Nick Davies is an excellent read on the failures within journalism that allow propoganda (or at least self serving "news" articles) to be every bit as regular in newspapers as genuine news.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Bible - The greatest propaganda ever


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    <<====== RUIN
    RECOVERY ==>>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Vote no to Abortion
    The EU LOVE low wages
    €1.84 wages

    Please tell me you don't really believe this... Sarcasim, or any other form of expression is pretty difficult to pick up through the medium of text.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    H1N1 Vaccine coming to a town near you. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Unless boards.ie is a hive of free-thought* then the results of this poll are grossly inaccurate.

    *which is unlikely when you consider all the half-baked ideas and plain ignorance paraded on keyboard warrior stlye threads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    GaNjaHaN wrote: »
    @ OP, what's the difference between propaganda and normal advertising?

    There's no difference between propaganda and advertising. When the word propaganda is said people usually associate it with secret World War 2 tactics carried out by Hitler. That's not what it is. Propaganda is just bias information that is spread with the intent of making you think in some way. It doesn't have to be lies or misleading. It could all be true. But it's just being spread because it will make you think in a desirable way. Advertising definitely falls under this category. The new name these days for what would be called propaganda is 'Public Relations'. It does exactly the same thing, so all major companies have someone in charge of spreading propaganda about the company and their products to make you feel that the company is doing good things and that their products are worth buying.

    Everyone is taken in by it in some way or another,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    It's true to say a lot of people are goebelled up by the propaganda machine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 SineadLewis


    GaNjaHaN wrote: »
    @ OP, what's the difference between propaganda and normal advertising?

    All advertising is propaganda.

    I am talking about other things, for example propaganda dressed up as "science" to brainwash the masses into believing what is in essence utter rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    All advertising is propaganda.

    I am talking about other things, for example propaganda dressed up as "science" to brainwash the masses into believing what is in essence utter rubbish.

    So you're talking about creationism.

    Any chance you might start a blog or newsletter to which I could subscribe as your opinions intrigue me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,417 ✭✭✭Archeron


    <<====== RUIN
    RECOVERY ==>>

    This is Ireland, some little git has probably moved the signs around to point in the wrong direction.

    I'll take RECOVERY please Bob.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 SineadLewis


    So you're talking about creationism.

    Creationism, it has as much "fact" as the darwinian theory that all the new Irelanders are all over. Think about it, if the people around nowadays are the "evolved" type, what must it have been like two thousand years ago.

    I also like how these new Irelanders think they are all scientific, you put a man in a white coat with some numbers on a page and the little people swallow the lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 PersonaNonGrata


    I once bought a Dyson.

    Still don't know why :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Creationism, it has as much "fact" as the darwinian theory that all the new Irelanders are all over. Think about it, if the people around nowadays are the "evolved" type, what must it have been like two thousand years ago.

    Evolution works over millions of years, not hundreds or thousands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 SineadLewis


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Evolution works over millions of years, not hundreds or thousands.

    " 'ere boss, we got a believer"

    You think I don't know the basics of this fantasy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    I also like how these new Irelanders creationists think they are all scientific knowing, you put a man in a white coat robe with some numbers words on a page and the little people swallow the lot.

    fyp


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    Creationism, it has as much "fact" as the darwinian theory that all the new Irelanders are all over. Think about it, if the people around nowadays are the "evolved" type, what must it have been like two thousand years ago.

    I also like how these new Irelanders think they are all scientific, you put a man in a white coat with some numbers on a page and the little people swallow the lot.

    What about fossils? How do they fit into things?

    Who are these new Irelanders you refer to?
    Are you talking about all these new-born kids with their jumped attitudes?
    You're absolutely right.
    Saw some of these new Irelanders in a creche recently and it turned my stomach so it did -with their fancy early learning centres and their ooh-la-la toys with buttons and their hoo-haws and everything and their numbers and their counting and their PHDs and their opposable thumbs. Just disgusting it was. A disgrace.

    Also as an aside what's "up" with the "quotation" "marks"?
    Is it some "new" way of writing? I like to keep up with the latest trends.

    P.P.S Are you any relation to Parker Lewis of "Parker Lewis can't Lose" fame?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 SineadLewis


    What about fossils? How do they fit into things? ?

    No idea, never crossed my mind.
    Who are these new Irelanders you refer to?
    Are you talking about all these new-born kids with their jumped attitudes?
    You're absolutely right. ?

    New Irelanders are all these bog men irish types who now drink "skinny lattes" and other tatter type food. Think they are great.


    Also as an aside what's "up" with the "quotation" "marks" Is it some "new" way of writing? I like to keep up with the latest trends

    Yes, I always folow the latest trends. Expose is a "must watch".
    P.P.S Are you any relation to Parker Lewis of "Parker Lewis can't Lose" fame?

    Never heard of him/her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    New Irelanders are all these bog men irish types who now drink "skinny lattes" and other tatter type food. Think they are great.

    So you're weren't talking about those arrogant jumped-up science babies :confused:

    Where would you find these
    bog men irish types who now drink "skinny lattes" and other tatter type food

    I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about here.
    What's tatter type food? I've heard of tatter-tots and I think they are ok
    Also why does "skinny latte" get quotation marks?
    Is it like that sarcasm thing when someone says someone is really skinny but in reality they're not that skinny but are actually a bitten over-weight?

    Where do these bog men Irish types hang out?
    I'd be interested in seeing them in action
    Do these new Irelanders think they're great or do you think they are great?:confused:
    Yes, I always folow the latest trends. Expose is a "must watch".

    Never heard of this Expose. What is it?

    Also can you do some research into the whole fossil thing and get back to me? With my recently developing interest in the latest trends I'd love to know.

    Also Parker Lewis link
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Lewis_Can%27t_Lose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    I once bought a Dyson.

    Still don't know why :(

    yes i believed the hype.

    500 quid for a pce of fcuking junk.

    Singledom was ****.

    Now the fiance does the sucking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    I am constantly amazed at how easily the average person is taken in by propaganda. I mean, it only takes a few stories in the media and the masses are spouting off about some new issues that we "must be saved from." "Where are the governemnt on this issue".

    So my question is, are you taken in by propaganda?

    The reason for this is because most people are emotional thinkers, not logical thinkers. I actually find this quite scary.

    Example:

    The public sector wages need to be cut because we cannot afford to pay them anymore.

    Emotional thinker: I have a mortgage so they can't cut my wage.
    Logical thinker: It sucks, but I understand they have no choice.

    The whole concept of people basing their decisions on their emotions is dangerous, and is one of the main reasons we have so many problems in our world. I'd say probably 80% of people are emotional thinkers.

    I don't know what the solution is, perhaps try to teach it out of children in school.


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