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Is stockslash.com genuine?

  • 02-10-2009 11:52am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    I just found this site but I'm scared to buy from them because they've no contact details and I've never heard of them before. Does anyone have an opinion or any experience of dealing with them?

    This is a conversation I just had with the online support

    Visitor says:
    Hi

    Support says:
    Hello

    Support says:
    How are you today?

    Visitor says:
    I'm thinking of buying the family guy boxset but I'm concerned by the fact that I've never heard of stockslash before and that no postal address or head office etc is available online

    Visitor says:
    Can you tell me things to ease my fears??

    Support says:
    We have just recently opened

    Support says:
    We are in the process of securing a long term lease for a Premises

    Support says:
    We use paypal which is a secure payment system for both buyer and seller

    Support says:
    We also provide a tracking number allowing you to track your order

    Visitor says:
    Are you in England or Ireland?

    Support says:
    We are based in Ireland

    Support says:
    But do business all over the world

    Visitor says:
    If you're only open recently why does your blog say Family Guy Box Set is usually our bestselling item at christmas time for example only €40?

    Visitor says:
    ie the usually is confusing me!

    Support says:
    We have been selling online for sometime

    Support says:
    We have used ebay and other methods for the last 3 years

    Support says:
    We now feel it is time to move up and grow

    Visitor says:
    oh, that sounds better! what's your ebay user name?

    Support says:
    btr-dvd

    Support says:
    We don't have all our stock on ebay

    Support says:
    And some prices are higher on ebay because ebay charge fees and taxes

    Visitor says:
    it looks like you have a lot more stock on ebay than is shown here?

    Support says:
    Oh well we are in the process of listing stock on the site

    Visitor says:
    it also says you're a uk based mainland co. ireland isn't mainland uk!

    Support says:
    Well we consider ourself apart of the united kingdom seen as the delivery times are the same

    Support says:
    And we have staff there as well

    Visitor says:
    by the way do you have a business registration number?

    Support says:
    Yes we do

    Visitor says:
    can you tell me it?

    Support says:
    Unfortunately not we do not share this information with customers

    Visitor says:
    business registration numbers are a public item


    I really want them to be real but I am very dubious!


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    http://whois.domaintools.com/stockslash.com

    Some guy working out of his garage, by the looks of things. There is no registration for Stock Slash on www.cro.ie, so unless he's using a name other than the one the site is registered with, he does not have a company registration number.

    Not to say it's a scam, or that you won't get your products, but his lies don't inspire confidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    A telling question would have been to ask about region coding, but in a subtle innocent way. e.g. say "I want this dvd set for my brother in america, will it play there?"

    If they say yes you know something is up, it should be region 2's he is selling in the UK/Irish market. If he says it does play it is probably a dodgy copy which is region free.

    Of course items could genuinely be region free, but I have family guy sets and I think they are region coded. And €40 just seems too good to be true.

    Also you can put his username into www.toolhaus.org
    btr-dvd 99.7% But I don't think they are the same guy.
    he has over 8,000 dvds listed for sale right now! and not one of them is his complete box set of family guys, he does have the others though
    http://shop.ebay.com/btr-dvd/m.html?_nkw=family+guy&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3911.m270.l1313&_odkw=&_osacat=0

    btr-dvd is around since 02 so I would be fairly sure he is lying.

    Maybe a boxset of CSI would be useful to you ;)

    EDIT: Just clicked the family guy set
    Encoding FREE (Can be play on R1,, and any other Region DVD players)
    CSI says region 1, and friends is region free, and even says "genuine dvd quality", hmmm.....

    And there are fakes about, even sold via amazon
    http://www.amazon.com/Family-Guy-Complete-Season-1-7/dp/8585796596/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1254498750&sr=8-1
    Although most of the DVDs are fine, a few seem to be bootlegged copies since there are unedited TV commercials in them, and some of the scenes are unclear/jumpy. We would have preferred to know this before we made the purchase.
    I purchased this item as a birthday gift for my daughter. I paid for an expedited delivery date but it arrived later than promised. Furthermore, according to my daughter, some of the episodes have footage of another program within it and it appears to be "somewhat bootleg". She is OK with it and does not wish to return it but, I am not pleased. I paid for a real, not bootleg, product.

    Actually now I think of it I think my brother has that set! picked it up in vietnam for a few quid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭annieobrien8


    Thanks guys! The domain information is very interesting, I didn't even know you could get that kind of info!

    I hadn't spotted the "genuine dvd quality" phrase.. wonder why they felt the need to say it?! Did ye notice that the ebay seller has the wire boxset for something around €120 + P&P while it's €50/55 with free post from stockslash? Ebay must be charging a lot in fees! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 DECEE


    I seen an add for this on donedeal.ie a few days ago, so i ordered that family guy box set, it was only €40, so i said what the heck, I would of done a paypal dispute anyway if it didnt come,

    It came tough, after 8 days, which was a tad long, but i didnt mind because of the free shipping.

    It seems to be real to my eyes anyway, works/looks perfect etc.

    Im after ordering the wire box set now today, i will let ye knjow about that when it comes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭annieobrien8


    Thanks for letting us know DECEE. It was through donedeal that I heard of them too!

    Just thought ye'd be interested to know that I emailed the ebay seller that stockslash claim to trade as and I got a reply saying they have nothing to do with stockslash!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    DECEE wrote: »
    It seems to be real to my eyes anyway, works/looks perfect etc.
    They often do, in fact in China I picked up cds & dvds which had better boxes and extras than the originals. In many cases if you bought a cd it would have a second disc of the bands greatest hits, and most were better than their real greatest hits albums! Many had booklets while the originals had very little. I checked my brothers vietnam discs, the cover is excellent, has a magnetic closure and holographic effects, looks better than the genuine sets. He did see ads in his. Another telltale sign is the discs, they usually have a golden hue to them, rather than silver, and often they are single layer discs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭looder


    Thanks for letting us know DECEE. It was through donedeal that I heard of them too!

    Just thought ye'd be interested to know that I emailed the ebay seller that stockslash claim to trade as and I got a reply saying they have nothing to do with stockslash!

    Without sounding too sceptical, DECEE only has 2 posts. Now I may be wrong but that seems a little fishy to me! (No offence meant if your legit DECEE)

    I really want to take the chance on the CSI boxset but I'm not paying that much for copies!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 DECEE


    looder wrote: »
    Without sounding too sceptical, DECEE only has 2 posts. Now I may be wrong but that seems a little fishy to me! (No offence meant if your legit DECEE)

    I really want to take the chance on the CSI boxset but I'm not paying that much for copies!


    I look at this site all the time, i am a member for a long time, i just dont post.

    I looked up stockslash.com after i had recieved my box set to see what kind of hype was around it. All i'm saying is that the box set looks genuine, but I do not have another family guy box set to compare it to. I have watched season one already, im onto season 2 now, there is no ad's and the quality is great, so if its fake, its a very good fake! lool.

    I've ordered the wire box set and i got an email from them today saying that it was shipped so i hope it comes a bit sooner that the fam guy set.

    The site is going to save me a lot of money when it comes to xmas pressies!lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    They are simply too cheap to be true. If you logically step back a minute you can ask questions. Why is he not supplying shops? The costs are so low they must be below wholesale prices. Why is he not just selling to shops who deal in secondhand stuff, many games shops etc sell dvds.

    They might seem cheap, but he is charging over the odds if they are fakes, since fakes are about 40cent a pop in China. A box set like those would be €5-10


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    The long and short of it is very simple. These are too cheep to be genuine ,so they are knock-offs. Also, the site owner is a confirmed liar. If that's the kind of person you want to buy from, then go ahead, otherwise, don't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭annieobrien8


    I agree Jor el, I just can't buy from them after they lied to me, tempting as it is! :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 StockSlash


    Hi Guys!

    Sorry about all this confusion! :S

    There are lots of opinions and questions here about our website, but I don't have a lot of time to read trough and address them right now.

    Firstly, that 'customer service' chat posted above was written by a guy we outsourced for a few days while we were busy updating and building our site, he pretty much lied to everybody and gave them the wrong information, we were giving him a commision on sales he made trough the support service, so he was trying to make more money, we were never ebay sellers.

    We gave him basic instrustions on how to answer peoples questions and help them trough the process but he turned out to be an idiot!

    Secondly, we are based out of Cork City, but we are shipping products directly from our suppliers at the moment, suppliers who we have made deals and quantity agreements with. This is how the majority of the stuff is so cheap.

    We do free shipping all over the world, but it does take that little bit longer than usual (avg delivery time 8-10 days). But we are also working on that at the moment.

    The site has been picking up now the last couple of weeks, and it is running really smoothly. We have recieved nothing but good reviews from customers we have sold to since we have been open.

    Any questions ye have got, I will be viewing this board on a regular basis now.

    Also you can email us info(at)stockslash.com .

    Again, we are sorry for all the confusion and mind boggle!

    Regards, Rick.


  • Company Representative Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Gamesnash.ie: Pat


    I've a question :)

    Do your prices include VAT ? €35.00 is an incredible price for a genuine PS3 dualshock controller.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 StockSlash


    I've a question :)

    Do your prices include VAT ? €35.00 is an incredible price for a genuine PS3 dualshock controller.

    Hi Pat,

    The price you see listed is the price you pay this includes free shipping also!

    Regards,
    Rick


  • Company Representative Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Gamesnash.ie: Pat


    Hi Rick,

    Thanks for the prompt reply but I wasn't asking about delivery charges - I am wondering as an Irish based business are you registered for VAT and do your prices include VAT. It's relevant to me as a business owner as those prices are a hell of a lot cheaper than I can source the same products. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 StockSlash


    Hi Rick,

    Thanks for the prompt reply but I wasn't asking about delivery charges - I am wondering as an Irish based business are you registered for VAT and do your prices include VAT. It's relevant to me as a business owner as those prices are a hell of a lot cheaper than I can source the same products. :)

    Pat,

    It is the the original sony controller. However it is a licensed product.

    Regards.


  • Company Representative Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Gamesnash.ie: Pat


    I'm beginning to feel like a reporter quizzing a politician who will answer every question by answering a different one. :D

    Do your prices include VAT ?

    Aside from the dualshock controller you have advertised genuine microsoft xbox 360 controller for €33.00 again cheaper than can be sourced from microsofts distributors here so if your prices include VAT you would be the most attractive supplier of these in Ireland. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    StockSlash wrote: »
    It is the the original sony controller. However it is a licensed product.
    Like I have a genuine fake rolex.
    Aside from the dualshock controller you have advertised genuine microsoft xbox 360 controller for €33.00 again cheaper than can be sourced from microsofts distributors here so if your prices include VAT you would be the most attractive supplier of these in Ireland. ;)
    I said this too, he should be wholesaleing to amazon and play.com.

    It says
    Genuine Microsoft 2.4GHz Wireless Game Controller for Xbox 360 (OEM Pack)
    I take it the OEM is similar to your "licenced sony controller".

    There is now a michael jackson boxset €60 for 32 dvds in a big fancy box. No doubt region free like the family guy one.

    And for some reviews of it http://www.michaeljackson.com/be-fr/node/247967
    The Munich one which I really wanted to see, is very poor quality. When I got mine, I only paid 24.95 for it, so it was worth it.
    this is a bootleg,its not an official release...most of the dvds are copies of a vhs put onto dvd,it is apparrently poor quality,and some concerts are incomplete


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭MaxFlower


    StockSlash wrote: »

    We gave him basic instrustions on how to answer peoples questions and help them trough the process but he turned out to be an idiot!
    DECEE wrote: »
    It came tough, after 8 days, which was a tad long, but i didnt mind because of the free shipping.

    Why do DECEE and Stockslash have trouble with similar types of words - through and though from above. Coincidence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    I do believe DECEE is a shill for Stockslash, and I also don't believe Stockslash's explanation about how the lies came to be told. From what I see, they are selling knock-offs and copies. Stay away, unless that's what you're actually looking for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭annieobrien8


    I'm still not convinced either! Still no specifics on location or details of whether stockslash is a properly registered business... or really anything inspiring! How do we know that you won't outsource order processing to an idiot???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    jor el wrote: »
    From what I see, they are selling knock-offs and copies.
    Yes, nothing else makes sense and his postings only confirmed everyones suspicions. Also type stockslash.com into google and this thread is now the third hit, so others will have fair warning.

    I usually just type in the website name and "scam". This thread is first on the list in google if you type that.

    The shill post said it took 8 days to arrive, so I suspect he is dropshipping from China. i.e. he holds no real stock, just takes orders under the guise of being a legit Irish business, then when they get money it gets sent from elsewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Dean Markley


    This comany has all the hallmarks of a drop ship company. Basically You pay for your goods through paypal and they use your payment to buy direct from the source in China and the goods are sent direct from there using EMS shipping.
    They dont hold stock in Ireland.To verify this, they state that orders after the 2nd of december cannot guarantee Xmas delivery, this is because EMS usually take 3-4 weeks for delivery in December. Also, Customs in Portlaoise will not allow GHDs in from China as they know they are fake and seize them. This is not speculation, as I know companies that do this and all the goods listed are goods available on the Chinese websites.
    The goods are not authentic and are replicas, hence the price.
    Certain goods are pretty good quality, ie the GHDs and UGG boots, but stay away from the ipod nano lookalikes as they are terrible, with totally different software comapred to apple and DO NO work with Itunes.

    For the owner of StockSlash, Just know that selling these goods is dangerous with Paypal, if You receive 3 or more complaints for fake goods or non delivery, they will close your account and retain the funds and You will find Yourself been unable to pay for the goods to have them dropshipped, and will be left with customers chasing you for refunds.

    NCBI , National Bureau of Criminal investigation based in Harcourt st , have closed and seized goods of many of these sites by Irish people and they penalties can be harsh. So beware.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 island view


    Hi I have just come across this site as well and wondered if anybody has bought ghd straightners from this company? are they genuine??? €65 sounds to good to be true.

    Please answer my worries


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    are they genuine???

    Read the thread, nothing is genuine on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Fake GHD's seem to be very common just google "fake ghd" to see this. A fake DVD is one thing, fake electrical devices is a serious hazard. I design fairly high power machines and one of them was copied/faked by a UK company who got it made in Korea, it would not have passed the statutory regulations, main thing wrong was all the wiring was too thin so it was a real fire hazard. It will probably fail earlier too, do it would be a false economy to buy it just to save a few euro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Wouldn't touch em with someone elses. It looks craptacular.

    A site that can't guarantee delivery for Christmas of ANYTHING :eek: if order placed after Dec 2nd, is a nice little way to rake in a load of money before disappearing and coming back as siteisslash.com or some other wonderful name.

    From the site"DUE TO SALES VOLUME - ORDERS PLACED AFTER DECEMBER 2ND MAY NOT BE DELIVERED IN TIME FOR CHRISTMAS"

    I believe it is fair to call this Epic Fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Shaneod21


    This is hillarious.

    I took one look at the website and instantly could tell where they get the products from.

    Basically if an item is selling for much cheaper than an ebay price...its fake! Why would someon sell from a simple website rather than attracting free traffic from ebay.

    They are just using chinese supplier, that anyone can use. Yes the products are fake and they will work anywhere as far as I know.

    Would highly advise against selling/buying counterfeit goods. It can have serious implications. The Ugg boots on the site can be bought for between $50-$69 and then he is selling them on at €75. He is basically a middleman.

    My advice is stop before you get fined and/or face imprisonment. This is coming from someone who has been selling online for years. Eventually you will get caught out, this might be great for a month or so, but in essence it is illegal. There are suppliers out there that you can use that will allow you make a profit legitimately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 billiejean07


    DO NOT BUY FROM THIS SITE. IT IS FRAUD. I LOST €102. NEVER RECEIVED THE ITEMS. HE DELETES/REMOVES ALL THE BAD/FRAUD/'DO NOT BUY' COMMENTS, AND
    FABRICATES THE GOOD COMMENTS. DO NOT TRUST HIM. DO NOT BUY FROM HERE!!!!!!!!! ITEMS COME FROM A KNOWN FRAUDSTER IN BEIJING 'YANG JIAN QUAN', YOU CAN
    GOOGLE THIS NAME AND SEE FOR YOURSELF,OR GOOGLE THIS ADDRESS... ''BEIJING XI ZHI MEN BEI DA JIE 45 HAO''.


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